emerge from the dust and which will follow the fatd of pets.come let's bring in mark lehman and bryn talkington. wonderful to have you both here. bryn, you remind people that amazon wasn't point in 2001 did trade down to $6 and very hard to value the companies so for investors today how do they find an amazon versus one that you might be -- or maybe a tesla versus another you're more cautious on. >> yeah. first of all what all the companies whether it's amazon or microsoft, apple, tesla have common is part of the nasdaq 100 part of the qqqs so that's a great place to start with the qqq which is my version of the s&p 500. i definitely think that you have to discern because i don't know anyone that stuck with amazon at $6 so you have to do good research for every amazon there's 20 more nikolas or lordstown with no revenue so i think it's a great question but a complicated answer but ultimately i would start with the qs to do good research to find great companies versus just looking at the s&p 500. >> if people say what's the difference, amazon had gross profits of $656 million in 2000. most of th