. >> on that note here for our lead-off discussion on a wednesday night tamara keith, white house correspondent for npr. robert costa, national political reporter for the "washington post." also moderator of washington week on pbs. and eugene robinson, pulitzer prize-winning columnist also with the "washington post." tamara, not just because we are overindexed on the "washington post" tonight, i would like to begin with you with i note what is an npr/pbs/marist poll out tonight. and in plain english it says 65% of us think this is going to be our life for the next six-plus months. i don't know how to ask this. how about lawmakers not named donald trump? is this sinking in more widely than would be believed? >> certainly if you look at our poll or any number of other polls, people are concerned. and people are concerned about a second wave. about 75% of people in our poll are concerned there will be a second wave. and if you dig in deeper into the numbers in our poll, you find there are partisan differences, that democrats and independents are more concerned than republicans. democrats and indep

and tamara keith of npr. she also co-hosts the "npr politics podcast." hello to both of you. d before i turn to yo, i want to let you listen some of what president trump had tsao y at this fox townhall last night. ed also some of what biden townhall that had to do with helping essential workers,th particularly ilatino community. let's listen both of those and i will come back. you-- make more money, frankly, i think that will happen. i think we will have an incredible following y r. we will to a transition in the third quarter nd we're going to see things happen that look good, i really believe i have a good fee this stumplet have i done it for a long time. >> i have put out a detailed plan about what ik we should be doing right now to support our front line workers and address the disparities we're saying with covid-19 impacts all across the country. and i truly think that if we do this right, we have an incredible opportunity to not just dig out of this crisis but to fundamentally transform the country. >> woodruff: so amy, i'm going to come to you first. you have the presi

and tamara keith of npr. she also co-hosts the "npr politics podcast." hello to both of you. tam, let me start with you and bring up somethingt we puhing uch earlier in the eprm country, the president, pushing the country to reopen asmut thes away from the health side of this pandemic. but u've got peple who work at the white house coming down with co id,sting positive for covid. how does that complicate whatter in's trying tdo? >> it certainly complicates theg meg. you know, the way the white house has been dealing with the safety of its own empyees has been too rely very heavily on testing in the las.t month or to rely much more heavily on testing than on social distancing. though testing that is not widely available for the rest of the public.la most wors don't have a test that they could just administer ts ye c in.ovemee pso tlohe white e houase has ine a lot of measureat you can probably expect to see at workplaces if and when peo begin returning to them, things like people wearing masks in the west wing. >> woodruff: and amy, how does it complicate white house efforts t

and tamara keith of npr. she also co-hosts the "npr politics podcast." hello to both of you. so here we have the two presidents. but i want to preface this, amy, by saying today attorney general william bar stated and we aired this earlier in the program, that he does not expected there to be criminal prosecution of either former president obama or former vice president joe biden, presume bleef over the russia investigation and yets that is what one of the main things president trump has been going after president obama, vice president biden over. any idea why right now president obama appeared to pick this moment to respond? >> well, it is interesting, judy, you're right that president obama using the one time we have seen him on this platform as you said for graduates to make a not so vailed swipe at president trump. but it was also, i thought interesting this weekend, we saw a story in "the washington post" that said the biden campaign is working very hard to baiferl turn the other cheek. they don't want to fall into the trap that so many other politicians since the rise o

and tamara keith of npr. she co-hosts the "npr politics podcast." hello to both of you on this mem or yool day. and it is just a little more than five months unti election day. so never too soon to start talking about the general election. we've been looking at the polls. we know it's early. and y, i want to start with you. because i guess ia handful of the key battleground states that are going to be really hard fought we are seeing joe biden ahead in a number of states that donald trump ended up winning. pennsylvania, joe biden is up 7. michigan up 6, arizona up 4, wisconsin up 3, florida up 3. now i know several of those are within what we call the par begin of error, amy, but is this a headache for donald trump at this point. and if so, i mean how much of a headache. >> well, judy from the very beginning of this reaction-- re-election campaign for the president we theu that there was going to be major question was what is president trump feeling. if you look at the polling throughout his presidency you can see that he has a pretty low ceiling. h

. >> our thanks to tamara keith to robert cost 72 and the pride of the university of michigan eugene robinson, greatly appreciate it, thanks. >>> coming up, the wisconsin mayor who called lifting stay-at-home orders outrageous and irresponsible. how her college town is now fighting a pandemic and later out of the frying pan into the battle to save america's beloved restaurants. chef and tv host andrew zimmer will join us. "the 11th hour" is just getting under way for a wednesday night. save hundreds on your wireless bill without even leaving your house. just keep your phone and switch to xfinity mobile. you can get it by ordering a free sim card online. once you activate, you'll only have to pay for the data you need- starting at just $15 a month. there are no term contracts, no activation fees, and no credit check on the first two lines. get a $50 prepaid card when you switch. it's the most reliable wireless network. and it could save you hundreds. xfinity mobile. >>> today the state of wisconsin reported its highest total of newly confirmed coronavirus cases in a single da i's time