i think tamara smith believes that were just going to get back at them next time. you could see a harder line. i don't know if there'll be a work stoppage or but it could be a tenuous situation. pgh so, cap reinecke had said that some have blackballed him. what you think about that? >> i think not only do a lot of people think that, enough people along the way have thought it. he has the collusion lawsuit which has gotten further than most have thought. the year owners are usually pretty private and don't like to come out and private. so work in the sea. this got farther than what they have thought. that's one of the many i went say headache they seem to have very little idea how to handle. it seems like something that could've been handled easily and has grown. >> this is your new book. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> keep an eye out for more interviews of the national press club's book fair to air in the near future. you can also watch them in any program in the entirety booktv.org. >> up next on book tvs afterwards, louise examines the growth in illegal glob

the studio by david smith don't ski he is a former mad all say al had municipality of practice and he's now living in exile and is a visiting scholar at georgetown university tamara ideology is a member of the venice weight and national assembly and also a member of the popular will policy that is part of the opposition to nicolas maduro she is in caracas and such as she sits we have a hundred of alaska he is a historian of modern latin america and he's extensively researched venezuela and from philadelphia we have joe shaker read em off he's an organized right to add political theorist there's all. so written widely about once where it's good to have you here everybody let me just try out your your historian and flex your muscles here how is it possible to have an interim president and a president of venezuela at the same time. well i mean it's not possible. the. why though has appealed to is a particular article in the constitution two thirty three which declares in the event of sakya power the executive faculties of that office go down to the president of the national assembly and they declare that there's a vacuum of power in the executive because of tremendo