tamdan is here as an energy expert. mr. nawaz, who is opposed to allocating gasoline to the national code, and mr. nawaz, who is in favor of allocating the gasoline subsidy to the national code, are present here . before we start the debate, i invite us to go see a report together and come back and start our conversation. ali maliki, an expert on economic issues , should be formed by allocating gasoline to each national market code in the country, where the price of gasoline is determined regardless of global prices. currently , due to the mandated stabilization of the price and restrictions in the distribution of gasoline, an informal market has been formed, and if a person buys more gasoline than if you need a quota of 1500 tomans or 3 thousand tomans , you should buy gasoline more expensive than the rate. reza gholami, an expert on economic issues , if we make people participate in an issue, not only will they not resist the price increase , but they will also support it. the plan to assign gasoline quota to people inste

tamdan to some extent, i agree with them , that is, we have the same opinion. it will change in the future , mr. tamdan said for other reasons, this cannot be implemented. can you please explain more? first , see the discussion that was rejected. the discussion that you are talking about, mr. engineer, is different from the main topic of the program. we had a full explanation discussion now. we came to the conclusion that the full explanation discussion cannot be implemented at the moment and we have a problem. well, mr. nawaz , i believed that this should happen in two stages . the car is consuming more , not necessarily the person who has four cars, for example , he has a hybrid car, maybe he doesn't use as much as the person who has an old car, so it's enough to consume not more than the subsidy, if the cost is less, he will also use less subsidy. no, it means that with the power of these four to 60 leads, if your card is burned if he has four to 60 leads per month , the government is subsidizing him. it does not mean that the person who owns a car does not

tamdan . you mentioned the other reasons for your opposition . giving gasoline subsidies to all people is not equal to the fact that we are establishing justice. in your opinion, the current way closer to justice either this is the way that mr. nawaz agrees , now see how to implement it, the next step is now , but if we have a fuel problem, it means that we have to come and give gasoline to someone, or we have this problem now. you already said, for example, justice is smuggled. now, mr. nawaz , explain and bring up the discussion of explanation and fuel card, and this was always brought up in the discussion . let us talk about it. the situation is definitely different now. i mean, it is not applicable at all. problems will arise. look, now the government is talking about subsidies, giving gasoline, and so on he is spending a strange amount of money on gasoline and saying that if i don't do this, and the consumption is high, he is getting less for this work . if we give 15 liters of gasoline, their consumption will decrease, that's why i asked th

tamdan, let me understand your words. let's divide it, but the price should be the same, the price should not change, unless it is now 10 20, which is going to be something, well, but no more, that's what i said. we have to think about it . there is no other way. this statement of yours means that you are saying that the government should make fuel more expensive until you come up with another way. we don't have a way to increase the price , not increase the price. if it was supposed to increase the price, it would solve our problem. so far , we don't believe in increasing the price. it's true that we want to change the way of explaining the subsidy. yes, i say. in my opinion, it should be done, but it should be done logically, but our problem is that you do not believe in a one-time shock, you believe in a gradual increase. things become expensive, but our discussion is our main problem. we are that we because we are talking about the devaluation of the national currency and it is happening at a rapid pace, let's say the