they came to the u.s. 11 years ago when tamera was 15. they started to decide their own business in 2009. >> it made sense for our own security and our own economic security just to have our own business. even though we didn't know along the way what was going to happen to us because of the deportations. >> a fraction of every dollar the bakery earns is set aside for city, state and federal taxes. the philadelphia department of health has certified it, it is legal in every way even though all of its owners are not. it is hard to say how many businesses are owned by undocumented immigrants. one form he southern california university, estimated, if true that would mean they own hundreds of thousands of u.s. businesses. encumbrance lawyer kimberly tomzack ick says it is very comn in the area. >> it's very convenient in restaurants and convenience stores and corner stores but you see it in construction and contracting work. >> for undocumented entrepreneurs becoming a business owner involves a few forms, birth certificate or some official for

eric braverman and tamera holder. know, here, is that what you want a wasted stoned america, hey, man. is that what you want? would you want your kids out there on 4/20 smoking dope? is that what you want? >> are you serious? >> that's a question. >> these aren't kids. these are people. >> i saw a lot of young kids, relatively young. >> i'm not here to debate. >> you can put your phone down because i'm talking to you, sean. >> let me educate you -- >> let me educate you. >> i was turning my phone off. >> good. keep it off. listen, sean, this is about the state's right. >> wow -- maybe you need a joint to chill out. >> here is the thing. you're about states -- >> you haven't answered my question. do you want -- look at those young kids there. do you want your kids to be part of that? >> those kids are adults. >> do you want your children there. >> what i want has nothing to do -- >> if you don't want to answer my question, i won't ask anymore. >> so you're not going to answer the question. >> do you want. >> sean is no

is just a tiny, tiny percentage that has gone wrong. >> reporter: tamera did not place her child ining the father knew nor did this woman. both give mothers the benefit of doubt. she insists most follow the law. >> i'm the one feeling very connected to this baby emotionally and physically. i'm going to the doctors appointments, so i feel like i should have a little bit more say. >> these babies grow up, become adults. i don't want to explain to any child, by the way, your birth father wanted to raise you but we decided we cut him out of the picture. >> reporter: adam with the donaldson adoption institute say other states have comparable laws. >> for some reason, utah is a haven. >> reporter: fraud immunity became law the same year the church issued policy stating unmarried parents should be cancelled to place a a child for adoption and mike lev et signed the legislation 19 years ago. in a statement he says with most laws, all of the ways in which it is played out may not have been anticipate the at the time. if the legislature concludes the application of the law has become i'm bala

i would say that if you're unanimous consent with you that all members of congress had in tamera access to all these documents i certainly could support that at this time so every member of congress would have full access to see all of these documents including an in tamera review including bringing key staff in to help explain it. >> mr. chairman? ave object and continue the objection. >> we go to the gentleman from michigan. >> thank you very much mr. chairman. documents and testimony received by the committee show ms. lerner appears to have had a biased conservative and tea party groups. we have a slide, slide one perhaps. according to one witness interviewed by mrs. lerner ordered virus to read -- renamed rename the tea party cases to something else because she thought the term tea party was just too pejorative. think about that. what is pejorative about the term tea party? nothing other than mrs. lerner's personal negative opinion about the tea party movement. slide to please. mrs. lerner called the tea party cases very dangerous. what is so dangerous about tax-exempt applications?

. >> tamera. >> because you do have certain law. i mean, you have it all throughout the united states and they pay their fees and all sorts of grazing fees and things i'm not accustomed to. if i were cliven and i like him, i like his spirit, his spunk and the people -- >> i do, too. >> i do like him, i respect him. he ought to go and cut a good deal right now. that's the best for everybody. he's really vicious. he ought to go out and cut a great deal. >> yeah, actually, i think that's good advice. >> what is he going to do? are they going to shoot over grazing fees? >> my brother-in-law was there all weekend and thought i was coming to that. >> a lot of people thought that. he ought to go out. he's in a great position to cut a great deal and that's what he should do. >> i thought judge napolitano hit the nail on the head, go to court, can't sell the property and move forward. why are we using these government resources and spending the money? >> i agree with that but you have laws and you do have laws in the country and if everybody

. >> and tamera, what about what bo is saying, what about what everybody is saying? you go to colorado a lot, right? i have no idea. >> i'm born and raised in colorado. that is the first thing. but sean, this is the issue i have. i think all the studies are very important. good or bad. and that is why we need the studies for people to choose when they vote when this becomes legislation. and it is on the ballot. you make an informed decision. do you want to vote for guns or not? do you want to vote for marijuana or not. and these are the studies that make people decide. and colorado and washington voted for it. you're all of a sudden opposed to it. >> look, i don't put marijuana on the same level as crack and heroin and mollie and ecstasy. i don't, but here is the problem, i do believe like chloe has said, and others have said it is a gateway drug. and also i believe that it increased the availability. america will look a lot like those pictures. >> but that is what people said about the prohibition of alcohol. can i tell you how many times i was drunk in college and

. >> wait until you drink alcohol with tamera. >> all this discussion about alcohol, it's a strong manument here. it leads to over a 100,000 traffic accidents a year. >> hold on. let's get our medical team in. >> what was the question? >> do your final thoughts. >> the whole idea of a gateway drug, people who are more predisposed to getting more addicted to marijuana or a substance have an underlying mood disorder. >> everyone that uses marijuana needs a better choice for anxiety management. anytime you take a generation that marijuana is your solution for anxiety, you're teaching them how to brain damage themselves. >> any kind of addiction is a symptom of a larger problem. we need to support our young people so they can turn to something other than drugs. >> in closing, i want to point out one thing. look at miley cyrus' disney channel years and look at her now. now what is it? you look at the influence of different factors maybe in her social life, but drugs have been one of them. she's been promoting it. >> we just had the music festival the past few weeks. it's all about changing

that's an area where, as i have said to tamera, there are other ways to make it even better. so, that's objective facts and real problems out there. the other side is polling, right? what's general opinion of the law which is a attached to general opinions about me or democrats and partisanship in the country generally. my view is that the longer we see the law benefiting millions of people the more we see accusations that the law is hurting millions of people being completely debunked as some of you in the press have done and the more the average american who already has health insurance sees it's not affecting them in an adverse way, then it becomes less of a political football, which is where i want it to be this shouldn't be a political football, this should be something that we take for granted, that this in this country you should be able to get affordable health care regardless of how wealthy you are. now the larger issue, whether or not to move past the polarization and sort of the bitter political debates between democrats and republicans of which obamacare's just on

i mean i am speaking on behalf of project tamera peace research center where we are trying to create first model case a complex society model on a small scale where all the elements that are needed for a functioning socialism are put together and decide is centered in. the restoration of nature by methods of water attention and scape that is creating and accomplish its model for autonomy for subsequent water food and energy supply but very fundamentally it is rooted in the human cloris so we are mainly researching how the pattern of here and violence that is dominating humanity now a day can be transformed into a pattern of trust and cooperation and this is the social question and it's also very strongly connected to the question of love and sexuality as you do relationship of the genders so it's a very complex research and interestingly this is now connecting with a movement in part to go where more and more people are looking out for a tentative and so we are you see the gentle beginnings of a movement towards regional self-sufficiency in this and our elint asia region and we can h