my name is suma tamez. we became an h.o.a. in december 2019, after i had my lawyer send miss sommers a letter -- >> commissioner honda: i'm sorry, could you stop there time? i have a question. >> sure. >> commissioner honda: both have referenced photos that are in the brief. >> i have 11 copies here, and we can project them, as well. >> commissioner honda: was this submitted to the office? >> no. >> commissioner honda: okay. we will continue your time, and sorry for the interruption. >> so we are an h.o.a. due to my efforts to move this forward. yes, it will be our first formal h.o.a. meeting on sunday. due to the type -- i don't want this turning into judge judy, so let's say it's hard to get anywhere in the same room with certain people. let's stick to the permits. there's a preexisting hatch before the condo conversion. we have had, based on our c.c. and r.'s, approve the permit of the hatch. the c.c. and r.'s govern these types of discussions, so i'm sorry it's coming to you to debate some sort of deeper issue. we will als