. >> host: jim and tammy faye bakker? >> guest: they're the perfect embodiment of prosperity churches. they started a christian wonderland. they have the secret guide can do playful attitude and she was always to seconds away from bursting into song and with the blue suit and a gold watch like a carnival atmosphere in their life and marriage ferromagnetic and fun to watch and let's open the door spiritually to see what god brings. we know the relationship between the audience and televangelist is the legal recourse to but in '80s those type were very attractive to the silver set the elderly and at home by now with the mega church is a young middle-class phenomenon everyone thinks just reaching the last penny but this is the kind of thing the aspirational middle-class audience will see weekly to have practical resources about jobs and parenting. >> host: white and black and latino? >> guest: sure. it is overwhelming how many have started in the last tenures with the latino churches there were the fresh face before they wer