we also had tammy schultz. tammy schultz, local coloradan is the right supervisor.the lead right supervisor. kind of a big deal locally. and the director of national security ensuring fair fair and professor of strategic studies at the u.s. marine corps war college. so welcome, tammy. lastly we have sir tran re-who is our second panelists today. there is the author and contributing editor for the solitary watch website and she's the unit or city you see berkeley visiting scholar. well, and without further akio i will give it over to bob. to start them is panelists will have 10 minutes to speak and after that we will go right into audience participation and questions. as a reminder, students will come and ask questions first. bob, thanks so much. >> thank you you think, everybody for coming today. it is a great pleasure to be here. you're especially remarkable for coming to such a topic that is not exactly easy to swallow i think for most people. in fact, talk about euphemisms. the phrase collateral damage only six. what it really means innocent dead people were dead