we'll talk to tamra barney from "the real housewives." >> 20 years ago she had them augmented and recently what am i going to do? >> you're going to have something done to your forehead. >> i will have an eyebrow transplant. just kidding! i will have a lift, a little lift. >> what is that? >> i don't know. you'll get your bushy hair removed. >> stop talking about it being bushy. jennifer is coming up. you have to shave my arms. >> i don't have to. she's going to do that. dr. wechsler is going to take off my numbing cream. not the first time you've done this. >> and not the last either, i assume. >> who shaves their arms? >> lots of people. >> no one i know. >> come on! >> stubble. this is not going to be good. >> what have you been doing before? >> leaving it alone. >> my god, that is hairy. >> you have never waxed it? >> i want you to look. you will be astonished how much hair i have on my arm. >> for those who have overplucked your eyebrow hair, you can have some of that hair into your eyebrow. so save that for me. dr. wechsler will do my eyebrow transplant. >> you will get half your hea

our housewife, tamra barney and psychologist and former model, v vivian, and author of a book.u don't hide any of that. >> no. i live my life openly on the reality show. i'm one that plurtsz it out there. >> what do you say about a lot of celebrities that say, i have good genes and do yoga. >> i want to throw my wine at them. i do yoga. >> you decided to get a breast reduction. >> it was a long time coming. i had them done in my early 20s. i had them reduced on the show four years ago. i took baby steps. i knew i wanted to get rid of them. i didn't think i had the self-esteem. it was low back then, going through a divorce, my gad, if i loose my fun bags, what's going to happen? >> fun bags. >> the thing about being 40, you're a little more secure who you are, i don't know if it's being in your 40s or losing your eyesight, i feel better about myself. >> dr. dillard, what is this fascination we have, tremendous fear of what's ultimately going to happen to all of us anyway. if you're blessed, you will live to be a big old age, right? >> i'm really glad you're bringing up the psych