joins you is steve tanger. make up the customers for you? >> the early indications is we have another record year of traffic at tanger outlets. for the most part weather was really good compared to last year. traffic was up post-hunt sandy stress even on the east coast, people are out and about. the big boxes opened at 8:00, we opened at 10:00. about 50% of our stores, though, opened with great values even as early as veterans day. another 20% started their sales last weekend. so we're looking for a great holiday season in addition to another record-breaking black friday. >> steve, which retailers are being most aggressive in terms of their promotions to get people in the door? >> the hot brand around the country still remain, it doesn't matter whether they're deep discounts or not. the hot brands in our centers are coach, underarmour, j. crew, nike, michael kors, the gap, they still offer great products. >> good to chat with you again, sir. we've been talking about pennies, are you agnostic about who wins thes