. >> next, from book tvs recent visit to tacoma, washington from a university professor tanya irving examines the role in the u.s. prison system. >> the name of the book is called god in captivity in an age of mass incarceration. i started to write it because i used to live in new york city and i taught at a women's prison there on the west side highway. when i was going to teach a college class, the other people there were prisoners of religious volunteers and there were so many of them. around that time in early 2003, someone sent me a small article from "the new york times" that in florida and jeb bush is governor he had taken state prisons and transform them into institutions so this whole idea that rehabilitation will come through religion and i studied religion so i was fascinated by what does this mean nationally. you think about mass incarceration. we had a huge spike in the 80s and 90s are basically states cutting budget and essentially we're hoping hundreds of thousands of people, millions of people in the u.s. what religious and faith-based groups to we can do it and they