and joy. thank you for being here. >> thank you. >> thank you, joseph, kim, tara and ethel. i was a really interesting conversation and we are having uncomfortable conversations about dismantling systemic racism and devising plans to racial equity here, i just want to go back to something that joseph said that really stood out. we are living in a very challenging time and you can still love your country and criticize it at the same time because you know there are better ways to not only govern but navigate toward a more just society. i really enjoyed this discussion, thank you y all so much for being here with us. ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ >> middle and high school students, your opinion matters. she spent student video competition. be part of the national conversation by creating documentaries. how does the federal government impact your life? your five to six middle video, for programs that affect you or your community. she spent student competition has $100,000 in cash prizes and to have a shot at the grand prize of $5000. entries for the competition will begin to be received wednesday se

and kim tara and because of, you are all teachers at one time and i want to ask you kim and terms and also joseph, in teaching, other certain writers that you return to. and also him in speaking with your most recent book, other certain writers that lesser known that i want to teach and i want to introduce these names because they're very important. so when into respond to that. >> sure. there are certain writers that a return to again and again but increasingly they say or seem to be some of these writers who are less well known. for example, i have been teaching alice dunbar nelson, who always gets overshadowed by much more famous husband dunbar. in her work is i think especially hard poems, through her lifetime, they have dated so much somewhat better poetry, just continues to gather and forced me. i think a lot of the writers who better start during amino hall the harlem renaissance. and a lot of the writers who are best known to us now tend to be the male writers who moved to new york. and so many of the really top female writers of the movement were here in dc. so i think of lik

and joy. thank you for being here. >> thank you. >> thank you, joseph, kim, tara and ethel. i was a really interesting conversation and we are having uncomfortable conversations about dismantling systemic racism and devising plans to racial equity here, i just want to go

and white. >> thank you tara. this is the question i had asked to tara is also to kim. how is the black lives movement influenced you. >> it's influenced me a lot and it's influenced my writing and especially i would say it's influenced many of the poems seen in raising king . one of the primary most important ways it's influenced me is through my students. i'm a high school student and teacher in washington dc and i watched these young people walk through the world that doesn't think they matter much. and worry about the threats they face. read the fears they have in their essays and poems and i tried to understand that and to learn from them. i am personally married to an african-american man so the black lives matter movements and its concerns live in my house . and i have lived with those concerns all the time. in terms of the poems in raising king, i think recently sias i've done more and more readings from it, i've been out for about six months now but i discovered even some of the language of black lives matter in the poems. a couple of them that tried to step int

that we recognize who are not for various reasons being remembered it in red and taught in school. >> tara, you just heard kim's i am going to explain your words. [laughter] so when you wrote, the american dream, on stolen lands of your father's money and shared the soul. you wrote that joseph and kam and how he responded that that you wrote. >> that particular image was directed at a particular person who has been very prominent in past proximally four years or so but is indicative of this promise that the american promise has been appealed to the 1 percent and this is a myth the rest of us are supposed to aspire to. since then as we know better, we ate take a better look at the role models in the past is hard to sees them as complete human beings. with all other flaws and all of their strengths and the idea is to come to a deeper understanding of you know, sort of moving the scales from your eyes. but that doesn't mean that everything is eliminated. that means it we can see it for what it is in a way in a more informed manner. so yes part of this discussion about the removal of monuments and streets changing

and joy. so thank you fog were here. >> thank you. >> thank you. joseph, kim, tara, and that was a really interesting conversation, and after having the uncomfortable conversations about dismantling systemic racism and de devriesing plans to -- disvising plans and i want to go back to something that joseph said that stood out. we're live fog a vary challenging time, and you can still love your country and criticize it at the same time because you know there are better ways to not only govern but navigate in this just -- towards a more just society if really enjoyed this discussion. thank you all so much for >> weekends on c-span2 are an intellectual feast. every saturday you'll find events and people that explore our nation's past on american history tv. on sundays booktv brings you the latest in nonfiction books and authors. it's television for serious readers. learn, discover, explore. weekends on c-span2. >> sunday c-span series january 6th, views from the house continues. two more members of congress share stories of what they saw, heard and experience that date