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even tara reid is now expressing concerns over the medias slanted reporting and their bias of

>> well, tara reid's mother is a key figure in all of this because she is the one other person that taraeid says she told about the alleged sexual assault at the time. now she died a few years ago so she is not somebody who can speak and corroborate any part of this story now. but what surfaced last night was a segment on cnn's "larry king live" from 1993 that appears to feature tara reid's mother's voice. let's watch that first and then we can talk about it. >> yes, hello. i'm wondering what a staffer would do besides go to the press in washington? my daughter has just left there after working for a prominent senator and could not get through with her problems. and the only thing she could have done is go to the press, and she chose not to do it out of respect for him. >> she had a story to tell but out of respect for the person she worked for, she didn't tell it? >> that's true. >> now what tara reid told cnn last night on the phone is that this is, in fact, her mother's voice that she feels certain about that. and that some time after the alleged assault in 1993, her mother did tell h

says tara reid doesn't lie.a reid also made an a recent outcry to the people in the senate. this happened to her when she was working for joe biden and when she made the complaint to three people about joe biden pushing her up against the wall in the senate with no one else around, pulling up her skirt and putting his -- i will get graphic but, sexually abusing her, they moved her away from where she had been working in the senate office to a room with no windows and all three interns and all three can attest to the fact that she was abruptly taken away as their supervisor. finally, we have documentary evidence that she worked with joe biden. we have senate records, and even though the mother passed, complained to larry king. we have that evidence in 1993 when this happened. now when it came to cavanaug ka, christine blasey ford did not know the date, time, place or year. what i mean by that is people that she said were with her when brett kavanaugh assaulted her said, no we weren't. this is pure unadulterated p

because tara reid told me the story andn the 1990s to what motivation do they have? >> sean: sarah sanders, this is state run tv. you actually live with this mob, you know. president ten days after the first corona case, travel ban. in the first quarantine in over 50 years, then subsequent travel ban's. i'll get to this later and a second, march 2nd, governor of new york says we're going to be fine. go out on the town in new york city, they had no ventilators, no respirators, no hospital beds, provided all of it for them, never ran out of anything and is there anything that donald trump ever does that is right and how would they treat him here? >> certainly not in the media's eyes. that is one of the most outrageous things about this is the double standard for people like justice kavanaugh, they are falsely accused in the media, wall-to-wall media coverage all day every day. this was a republican in these accusations were being made against him, you'd see wall-to-wall media coverage. the hypocrisy is shameless and just when you think the media can't go any lower, the

her name is tara reid. in 1991, her boss then senator joe biden cornered her in a hallway, pressed her up against a wall forcibly sexually assaulted her under her skirt. she is describing what is a full on sexual assault more graphic than we can say on the show. in an interview that she shared the details of this horrific assault in 1991 with close friends and family shortly after the incident. now several of those people are coming forward and they are corroborating her story completely. her brother along with a close friend confirmed her account to the intercept. two other additional corroborating witnesses now were also speaking out including a former neighbor and a former colleague. and that's not all. taber read previously told the intercept that her mother called into "larry king live" on cnn to ask for advice which would fit right into the timeline in 1993. that call took place and she confirmed it, august 11th 1993. let's listen. >> hello. >> yes, hello. i'm wondering what staffer would go to the pr

tara reid by ignoring her. in a more serious dynamic as we saw with kavanaugh, the damage to every other woman is extraordinary because we've been arguing for years that women just want to be taken seriously. that i have experience matter. we want equal access to justice. we never asked for a due process to go out the window or to be believed on the spot. we should be able to put through that scrutiny, but when you say women shouldn't have to go through that and then when you go and support some women but not others, it reinforces the suspicion that women have had to experience it and just kind of undergo because of the nature of our gender when we accuse someone of sexual harassment or sexual assault. so the democrats are i would agree they are enabling what's happening now, and they are acting as the abuser in the process both in the kavanaugh and in this situation as well. it's grotesque. >> sean: powerful statement. judge, i'd like everybody to answer inro retrospect, was the travel ban the right call? did

tara reid doesn't have two front door so she can't be credible.ts aren't ignoring the story, they're probably endorsing joe biden anyway. they don't care what women say. this was nancy pelosi earlier today. >> i'm proud to endorse joe biden for president who is the perfect convocatio personif. >> tucker: nancy pelosi endorsing authenticity. just to be clear, were not demanding the democrats assume joe biden is guilty. they shouldn't, no one should be assumed guilty. we certainly don't assume he is guilty. it's a little weird that they don't take this seriously. that would mean, in fact we are starting to conclude that their attempt to this story, brett kavanaugh wasn't based on any belief that he committed those crimes, and instead looking increasingly like a cynical, political ploy. destroy a man and his family, his children, his two little girls in order to get power. it looks like that's what they did. you should keep that in mind going forward. north korea's all-powerful deer leader was sick and wheezing when we ran into a might last summer. h

two words, tara reid. that's a former biden staffer who alleges that biden sexually assaulted her. no, not sexually harassed but assaulted physically. hillary clinton didn't just accuse up that but she gushed about biden's character.

. >> tucker: tara reid's sexual assault allegation against her former boss joe biden has not been proven, likely had never will be. it happened an awfully long time ago, she says. but newly discovered evidence from almost 30 years ago offers a surprising support for reed's claim, this came almost out of nowhere. a clip from "larry king live," the old to 9:00 p.m. show on cnn, features a call from a woman reid told reporters is her mother. watch this. >> san luis california, hello. >> hello, i'm wondering what staffer could do besides go to the press in washington. my daughter has just left there. after working for a prominent senator and could not get through with her problems at all. the only thing she could have done was go to the press and she chose not to do it out of respect for him. >> she had a story to tell, but out of respect for the person she worked for she didn't tell it. >> that's true. >> tucker: that's fascinating. rich mccue is a longtime reporter who has been on this story and a lot of big stories, thanks so much for coming on tonight. we just lay out the facts as we kno

they've stonewalled her since 1993 the media won't touch it and they're still ignoring tara reid even though they're with she the day they occurred she when told her brother she went told 2 other witnesses this isn't a made up story. they're protecting this knucklehead who you know the democrats are so sold on him that they're in all of this they're going to this ride that they absolutely are in and at this point they're actually trying to downplay it and say ok wall it even if it's true hasn't donald trump been accused of doing this to more women than joe biden it's a said that we've seen the has tag the lesser of 2 rapists and that's actually to mock these corporatists who are trying to make this argument here and listen we don't know necessarily did this happen did it not this this needs to be investigated but we have to put the benefit of the doubt in the woman here and that's what joe biden himself has said in the past you know what's really troubling to about it is the time's up time's up is an organization that's tied in the hold me to organization time's up ties directly

interesting that ruth marcus who wrote a whole book about the kavanaugh accusation said what she read tara reidnt her gut told her that tara reed wasn't telling her the truth. so this really just sort of blows open a lot of these notions and should remind everyone about the importance of due process in approaching these cases. these cases are very sensitive. they deal with people's lives. and we've seen people get raked over coal in them enjustly and that's devastating. >> they're very hard to handle, and you want fairness, that's what everybody wants fairness and due process and even handedness. do you think that the way that media and even some of the democrats like elizabeth warren, harris, they've been asked about this and they went totally silent. do you think this really hurts the women's movement, the me too movement? female democrats running for president when they go so stone called silent like this? >> well, it just make it is clear to e me that they understand that there's so much hypocrisy in way that caseses are treated and if you can't hold everyone to the same measure, and so yes

for now all republicans are saying, does "believe all women" apply to tara reid as well?s been amazing is that reporters have had a field, not very many, a few opportunities to question biden and they have not asked him about this. he has never made a direct statement. his spokesperson has completely denied it and said it did not happen, but he has not made a statement about it. >> bret: amy, this story aside quickly, as you look at the race head-to-head as we head towards november, has it turned on its head in this coronavirus environment? and will it continue to? >> i think the focus right now is to completely both on coronavirus but also on the presidents handling of this, that's the same place he's been for the entirety of his residency. more people disapprove than approve. he's not necessarily making the case for himself but the case against the opponent. he does really well when he's up against hillary clinton come up against james comey, and it's a contrast, not just a referendum. that is going to happen as you pointed out, at some point this race will get engaged.

the people right now we'll get to determine on their own if they believe tara reid or not and they canor not based on that. two, we are in the middle of this coronavirus the income if the think anybody is talking about. obviously brett kavanaugh was in a bad time, bad place, joe biden is going to probably whether this better because of where we. remember, the voters will have the ultimate decision here on joe biden. they will determine whether or not he or she is believed, that is how it works. >> martha: at some point he is going to have to be asked about it. he will have to come out of the basement and get asked questions about it. >> 1 of 9 members of the supreme court -- >> at some point he is going to have to answer questions at i hope he does! >> i'm not sure he will be asked those questions. >> we were told we have to vote with brett kavanaugh right now. >> i'm not certain. >> nobody wanted to do any investigation, they want to rush it! >> keep talking, just keep talking. >> martha: go ahead. >> it may been a supreme court appointment, but this is the president of united states

his accuser tara reid is calling on him to release records from his 36 years in the u.s. senate.ar, that has not been done. we are hearing from kirsten gillibrand, and she says he has vehemently and denied this allegation over the past 24 hours or so. how would you characterize the way the story has evolved? >> you know a couple of things. for one thing it's not true that he has vehemently denied this allegation as kirsten gillibrand points out there, that's not the case. his campaign has released statements about it saying that it didn't happen, but he has not he has not spoken out. many in this campaign and around him are suggesting it's time to nip this in the body. and it's now going in to the area of damage control. as far as kirsten gillibrand has is concerned, he has been a staunch supporter of women throughout his career and there are certainly many examples of people can point to in that regard. people said the very same things about brett kavanaugh and he did forcefully deny the allegations against him in an interview with me and elsewhere. i think we appoint him as wom

love fest folks xander tara reid is the same. person who just made an accusation against joe biden if so these games are this woman is a traitor and russia will do whatever it takes to keep trump in office they put him there in the 1st place unsurprisingly the right wing media for its own reasons has compared the less intelligent approach to biden to its character assassination of brett cavanagh they've drawn attention to how documents prove tara reid what as a staffer and by to the emergence of this latest larry king call it seemingly could drop rates that she did in fact tell people about the incident back in 1903 not just how much of it but a brother and friend to have both since confirmed they knew christie place before it was unable to present and such evidence against cavanagh and yet no time was wasted in throwing out the innocent until proven guilty motto and guess who else was apparently willing to throw out their unshakable values and is not on the found out of the need to move who by the way is still indorsing biden fo

to its character assassination of brett cavanagh they've drawn attention to how documents prove tara reid what as a staffer and bite it and the emergence of this latest larry king call it seemingly corroborates that she did in fact tell people about the incident back in 1903 not just how much of it but a brother and friend to have both since confirmed they knew christie blasi ford was unable to present and such evidence against cavanagh and yet no time was wasted in throwing out the innocent until proven guilty motto and guess who else was apparently willing to throw out their unshakable values and this is the law of the founder of the need to move madison who by the way is still in tossing biden for president if you don't feel comfortable throwing away a man that i've known for 15 years in this time of complete chaos without there being. a thorough investigation i stand in solidarity with christine lazy for it so the rule seemingly astounds with every woman unless that's threatening the chances of the only horse in the race who can unseat trump and who you all betting on legal and media

shannon: tara reid is calling out that bias, telling fox news, quote, he is an actual nominee for presidente not asking the question. that tells there may be a political agenda behind that. i am a survivor and i would like the questions asked. republicans are calling for accountability. in bc in the mainstream media treat republicans differently than democrats and it is on full display right now with how joe biden is being treated versus how brett kavanaugh was treated with similar allegations. >> reporter: biden's campaign denies all allegations. jillian: we will continue to follow it. >> the uss roosevelt is closer to returning to see, 955 crew members of tested positive for covid-19 out of 5000 total. 14 crew members of recovered, one does remain in the hospital. 47 sailors testing positive on the naval destroyer uss kid, 45%, 350 crew members of tested positive so far. jillian: there are talking troops in afghanistan coming home early over coronavirus concerns, nbc reports donald trump wants to pull them out because they are vulnerable to the disease, military officials say a troop with

so "the new york times" said that when they talk to tara reid, she said she filed the complaint, andfter that she was removed from her responsibilities and she had to go work at a different office, and in her role as a junior staffer, she was responsible for overseeing the interns. the only other cooperation that i see in that regard is that when they talk to the interns, they said that they never heard of anything in terms of sexual assault, but they did remember that suddenly she was no longer their boss. >> kennedy: yes, and i think it is more appropriate that she had conversations with her friends and family as jesse pointed out, and probably not with some college aged summer associates who are they are working on capitol hill, but you are absolutely right. we will see if there is documentation from back in 1993 when this allegedly occurred, and i don't appreciate people trying to tamp down the importance of the timeline. yes, the election is in november. he is a presumptive menominee. he is in a position to be the president of the united states, which is arguably the most powerf

when he comes back i hope he sc answers questions about tara reid. judge jeanine: we'll talk to doug collins next. house minority leader kevin mccarthy says nancy pelosi is playing politics with the playing politics with the pandemic. these folks don't have time to go to the post office they use stamps.com all the services of the post office only cheaper get a 4-week trial plus postage and a digital scale go to stamps.com/tv and never go to the post office again. i'm jackie ibanez. judge jeanine: welcome back to "justice." be in * using a global pandemic and economic crisis to play with americans money. and a governor picks a fight with the senate majority leader. joining me, kevin mccarthy. congressman thanks for being here. i said in my open 4.4 million people had to go on unemployment thanks to nancy pelosi's delay of 7 days when there was already an agreement on the cares act when she was pitching for planned parenthood and the kennedy center and the green new deal. was i wrong? >> you are not wrong. that one is just last week. while small busine

when he comes back i hope he sc answers questions about tara reid. judge jeanine: we'll talk to doug collins next. house minority leader kevin mccarthy says nancy pelosi is playing politics with the pandemic. [♪] jackie: live from "america's news headquarters," i'm jackie ibanez in new york. states are beginning to ease stay at home orders in states like georgia allowing some non-essential businesses to open up despite warnings from health officials and even the white house. the president said he never gave the governor the okay but told him to do what is best for georgia. the president signed an additional relief package. new york state has added just a couple how cases, highlighting fears the warm weather may tempt people to get out of quarantine. i'm jackie ibanez. judge jeanine: welcome back to "justice." be in * using a global pandemic and economic crisis to play with americans money. and a governor picks a fight with the senate majority leader. joining me, kevin mccarthy. congressman thanks for being here. i said in my open 4.4 million people h

she tweeted this out, and i'm aware of the new developments in tara reid's accusation against joe bidene every other survivor to have the space to be heard and seen without being used as fodder. i hear and see you, tara. so when do you think you will see growing calls from biden's own party in the face of him not speaking out or answering on this, your reference to the media not asking but what about democrats? >> they should all be held to their previous. and i agree with that. but that was not the standard of the cavanaugh error. don't quote any of the republicans on the senate judiciary committee. joe biden, the man running for president now said when women come forward with these types of allegations they should be presumed to be telling the truth. so we have a much more contemporaneous evidence against him, again, not decisive. compared to the cavanaugh situation there is a much evidence against him and if the standard was that women must be believed the question is not should they be heard in this case, it's should tara reid be believed. i don't think there's one answer to that an

joe biden after knowing the tara reid situation. did anybody follow up with a question to the speaker? when you went to endorsed joe biden, did you first look at her? if she thinks his response is a good enough response, to me, that is being a hypocrite based upon the path comments she made on other situations she made similar to this. >> thank you. >> this next question comes from 23 abc. rep. mccarthy: on other great station inside my district. >> really appreciate that. thanks for your time. two of the biggest priorities in the 23rd districts are the agriculture and oil industries. during these times, it seems there is uncertainty coming from both large and small oil businesses locally and there has been safety concerns from agriculture workers working in the field during the pandemic. in what ways have you been pushing for the 23rd district priorities in washington and otherwise? rep. mccarthy: thank you very much. for those who don't know my one, it, it is number produces the second amount of oil -- second automotive oil in the

but the campaign and the media have shown little empathy for accuser tara reid.claims that back in 1991 when she was a staffer in biden's office, she was pinned against the wall by the senator and he reached under her clothing. we won't describe the graphic details, but she claims a sexual assault. now two neighbors have stepped forward and confirmed that she shared her story with them in the '90s. >> laura: and now video has surfaced of her mother calling larry king in 1993 asking this. >> i'm wondering what staffer would do besides go to the press in washington. my daughter has just left there after working for a prominent senator and could not get through with her problems at all. the only thing she could have done was go to the press and she chose not to do it out of respect for him. >> now, laura, the circumstantial evidence suggests that terror reads allegations at the very least need to be examined and if you pay attention to biden's twitter feed the way i do, he recognizes the danger that these and other allegations present. this is from april 3rd, 2019.

if you read tara reid, who was, by the way a staff assistant to biden when he was in the senate -- ifead the account -- and by the way, it was buried on page 19 in "the new york times." i read it today cover to cover. the thing that's most disturbing are her allegations here. it's not just kissing or smelling of hair or touching. it's graphic, i can't describe it on a family show like this. these charges are so serious, they do demand some sort of investigation. as kavanaugh was investigated, they need to find -- she claims, tara reid does, that she reported this to the senate at the time. they have not uncovered that document. she doesn't have a copy of it but they should track it down and see if it exists. she also told family and friends contemporaneously this is a real challenge to the biden campaign right now. and given his public activities of stroking and touching and kissing, there is evidence here that you can't look past. >> laura: all right, well, the point that we want to make is that it is so patently obvious that they used a different standard with kavanaugh and again, b

tara reid told fox news the media needs to do a better job of questioning biden saying networks would handle the allegations differently if the claim were against president trump or brett kavanaugh. and she railed against anderson cooper for not broaching the suspect. she told a local paper last year biden touched her and made her feel uncomfortable, but she said it was not sexual. this march she claimed it was sexual assault. today two people who knew reid back in the 1990s reportedly stepped forward to back her claims, and this past weekend a tape surfaced purporting to show the i accuser's mother calling in to larry king that live to talk about advice, seeking advice on issues her daughter reportedly had with a senator. however, that caller in that tape does not the mention biden by name and also does not describe the nature of the incident. lou? lou: jacqui heinrich, thank you very much. joining us tonight is kimberlys strassel, a member of "the wall street journal" editorial board, author of the new book "resistance at all cost." we recommend it to you highly. i want to start, ki

tara reid said the assault happened in the basement of the capital but office building in 1993 she filed a police report about the alleged incident last week. she said she did not report it earlier because she felt pressured not to talk about it.>> i received a great deal of retaliatory advances in the workplace. >> other joe biden staff members who worked with him at the time do not remember any such incident or report. >>> former navy captain brett crozier of the uss roosevelt who is from santa rosa is battling the coronavirus himself but he is also getting a morale boost from his hometown.>> we stand behind us navy captain brett crozier >> he graduated from santa rosa high in 1988 and this youtube video was posted by his former classmates calling him a hero. he was relieved of his command after a letter he wrote was leaked to the media where he pleaded with the navy to immediately evacuate the aircraft carrier because of the coronavirus outbreak. thomas motley the acting cemetery of the natively fired brett crozier resigned last week after calling the captain naove and stupid. door an

on the accusations that are being hurled by a former staffer of presidential candidate joe biden tara reid is her name no relation to the actress her story has been sketchy in part because here is why 1st of all the new york times originally reached out to her for an interview an open interview about joe biden because she had worked for him she never said anything about her being assaulted by joe biden but then afterward she appears on the show with katie help or katie help or you've seen here on this newscast as a great show smart person a good journalist and then she goes on katie helper show doesn't she explains a biden had sexually molested her. he she goes on to say that when she did not consent she was then outcast from his staff so obviously the question is which is the truth what she said or what she didn't say now is she did say though that she told her mother about it only about 3 people one of the person she told was her mother but her mother has since passed away well now there's a recording that has come out where a woman. now all but confirmed to be the mother of terror we'd

neighbors all of those people coming together to corroborate this story almost verbatim from what tara reid said even the doubters have said that is what typically does what what is the message they see doing with the i don't even watch it and what are they doing my i don't watch them either but i haven't i have. and seen people posting clips that's not to say maybe they're maybe they are maybe there are but i'm not seeing it through the social media that i go through and i follow a wide range of ok and here's my point here's my point where we're at a crossroads right now we have a chance to do something there's an entire movement i'm not sure who's behind the movement but it is to stop by best that's it you know stop by and let's get somebody else in there that has a chance but you know your theory has been that the republicans have known about this for a long time right they've they've they've held it back they're going to launch it later right so you're telling me at this point c.n.n. went out of their way to make the story disappear at least on their in their venue is that right they've

tara reid's allegations are not proven, we don't know if they are true.ar weaker claims destroyed many young men on college campuses. but of course biden isn't playing by those rules. the american feminist movement may be the single most corrupt. there is nothing more corrupt than institutional feminism. look no further than senator kirsten gillibrand in new york. two years ago she wanted his life and family destroyed. he was guilty, she said, she could feel it. >> her account is credible and we believe her. we know that kavanaugh was not honest. she spoke her truth so bravely, so strongly and so honestly and we believe her. judge kavanaugh has not asked to have the fbi review of these claims. is that the action of an innocent person? it is not. to try to treat this properly and try to confirm, confer judge kavanaugh tells women that they are once again not important and not to be believ believed. >> i believe her because she's telling the truth. >> tucker: has there ever been in the last 245 years a dumber person to serve from the united states senate? p

klobuchar, kamala harris, i'm looking at kirsten gillibrand, they're trying to have it both ways saying tara reido be -- tara reade, that she has the right to be heard. stacey abrams here is echoing joe biden's talking points. she is hopefully, hoping to be biden's choice for vice president, as, as his vice president. watch this. >> "the new york times" did a deep investigation and they found that the accusation was not credible. i believe joe biden. elizabeth: whats your take on that? >> well, "the new york times" did not establish or find that it was not credible. just today by the way "the washington post" editorial board has called for joe biden to personally address this. by the way, there is one more thing to talk about. joe biden was a senator from 1973 to 2009, 36 years. he had a huge number of senatorial papers during that time. he gave them to the university of delaware. there are estimated to be 1850 boxes of papers and about 400, 415 gigabytes of electronic information covering all of biden's years in the senate. perhaps there was something about tara reade in there, not known. the pa

the accuser is a former senate staffer named tara reid a detailed account last month. >> he was on mykirt but then up inside it and he penetrated me. he was kissing me at the same time. >> biden after binger the statement from his long-term his executive assistant. i had no knowledge or memory of her recounting of events which would have left a searing impression on me as a woman professional and the manager. the campaign manager tells us whenever right to tell the story reported 7 obligation to rigorously that those claims. we encourage them to do so because these accusations are false. two years ago by themselves said this about clarence thomas accuser anita hill, for woman to come forward in the glaring lights and focus nationally, the presumption that the essence what she's talking about his real. is former staffer alleges that was not her experience. >> in 1993 when i attempted to bring forward the claims i was accused of retaliation in the workplace. >> pat ward was in touch with terror read, backing of the candidates the segment she said she field smeared by the biden campaign

for biden staffer tara reid told fox news the media needs to do a better job of questioning joe biden over her claim he sexually assaulted her in the 1990s, networks would handle the allegations differently if claims were against donald trump or brett kavanaugh and she railed against anderson cooper for interviewing biden twice and not broaching the subject. i think it is shocking this much time has passed that he's a national nominee for president and they are not asking the questions adding in other words if politics and political agenda playing a role in objective reporting and asking the questions. in the months since allegation surface by an has had a dozen interviews but has not faced questions over the claim and neither have those in his circle. house speaker nancy pelosi appeared on cnn before endorsing biden monday. >> he knows how to get the job done. >> and was not asked about it. msnbc also did not question her following her endorsement and two women on biden's short list made appearances on networks without raising questions, georgia's stacy abrams on cnn and nbc and sena

contrast of that was tara reid who has many contemporaneous witnesses, two witnesses who said that sher in the 1990s, and a phone call hinting at the fact that she had not up problem with the senator she was working for. her brother she told in the 1990s to come forward and she also claims to have filed an ethics complaint which joe biden has yet to release. so there is more corroboration here than there ever was in the case of her, and yet, no one -- of the biden campaign does not take it seriously. >> do you think the biden campaign should ask for an independent investigation? >> they should allow their records to be opened up in the senate records for ethics complaints. there should be an investigation but keep in mind, joe biden said at the time of the kavanaugh hearings, that you have to start off with the presumption that at least the essence of what she is saying is real. if that's the standard that joe biden had for christine blasey ford who had no consideration at all, that's when where we start when it comes to tara rita. >> dana: julie, you had the best dog photo bottom of a