that is actress taraji p. henson edging people to look it up. hat the guide to authoritarianism for dumbius is surging after the b.e.t. award show. way to go, taraji. thank you both for being here. i want to start with you, tara. wwrd, i know you're a former, but what would republicans do. it's fascinating to see the way the other side operates. literally donald trump could kill a person on fifth avenue, and they would say, so? they're going to triple down on him. it doesn't matter. i halfway think he would pass away and they would say, i'm still voting for him. at this point democrats face a true existential threat. okay? donald trump, where we're -- they want to consolidate presidential power into the full kingdom that john roberts wants. they said to roll back reproductive rights, gay marriage is on the table. they want to create camps, concentration camps. they want to basically gut climate change, and they want to expand on education and dei programs. that's important, right? that's what we should be running about. >> it's so frustrating wat

this comes as a vice president set down for a cringeworthy conversation with actress taraji p. hensoni know that you have been traveling cross country, what are you hearing? >> yes, girl, i am out here in these streets, and you are right. there's so much at stake in this moment. the majority of us believe in freedom and equality, but these extremists as they say, they are not like us. >> no, they are not. >> kayleigh: yes, girl come out here and they streets does not quite ring like commander-in-chief language. this bill and i don't know what that was. i felt like i overheard a conversation between my two daughters who are 14 and 11, but they speak more eloquently than not. first of all, when she talks about being a minority, really don't think people see color when they see kamala harris, they see incompetence. and that's a problem and when democrats are worried about. they know that they don't have biden, kamala harris is not going to get them a fighting shot in the dark as far as getting elected. and if he were to get reelected, the other thing that it was explained into my childre

i have to give some gratitude to taraji p henson.t, that is exactly what we are facing. this plan is terrifying but what you also see here is they are not committed to following any of the rules. they just want to eliminate superlative education and eliminate the department of labor. you have seen how their supreme court has expanded presidential powers to make them kings. this is a scary, scary moment. we have to talk directly to voters about what is happening because we cannot be distracted right now. they are unified around their hatred, around homophobia, around racism, the idea of rounding up immigrants and aborting them. we have to be unified, not only what we are fighting against, project 2025, but what we are fighting for, a true america where all of us are represented and able to live our previous lives. >> mike zamore and kelley robinson, thank you. we will continue this conversation after the break. stick around for that. >>> at the top of the hour, senator elizabeth warren joins the conversation. you are watching "the wee

. >> thank you taraji p. hensones. >> yes. >> that is part of why you say that. articulation dr. johnson of project 2025 is more on point than the way larry hogan describes it. he writes this, more from his op-ed. most americans regardless of party affiliation have more in common than many realize. they want common sense solutions to address cost of living, make community safer and secure the border while fixing the broken immigration system. i agree with that part. instead of addressing the problems, project 2025 ops for war against the other side, making it impossible to find common ground. i'm not entirely sure that is the frame. that it is about the fact they are ideological swinging so far in one direction, that it makes something like optimize and possible. i think it is important that we understand just how radical this is. that this is not a conservative document. this is a fundamental reimagining of american government, and america itself. >> i agree, and i also think larry hogan is an example of where repu

it was to taraji p. henson national audience of african american viewers. what i would have loved is the campaign to take advantage of that and amplify that because those are the kinds of opportunities of natural moments that can actually make a difference and turn the tide. there is still time and i think that is why it is really important that you see joe biden out there, going to a black church today, but continuing to be on the campaign trail, press forward. don't give people the belief that somehow we are stuck in a place that we can get out and now they've got to figure out a better decision. >> john fetterman has been saying, we were talking about this previously, he really had --. >> he was suffering from an illness, had a terrible performance and had a stroke before the election. >> couldn't have been worse. and he ended up winning by a much wider margin than anybody. and he has come out as a loud and forceful advocate for the president. debates matter but they only matter so much. what matters just as

something we haven't really touched on in terms of the project 2025, which i want to raise, is what taraji p. hensonrson who clearly cares deeply about the issues talked about it on a stage where you wouldn't necessarily expect it, and in the last couple days my timeline is full of project 2025. so that's, i think, one of the tactics that the democrats have, is to get folks like that to start getting people who may not be at the forefront of talking about the elections to do so. >> donald trump today posted that he's not involved in project 2025. the whole thing is designed, the heritage foundation has given an interview on this network to my colleagues to say this is what is going to happen if trump gets elected. >> i think that last part is the way you get folks to engage, not just for joe biden but for everything that joe biden stands for. >> tell me, nobby, are voters as jittery and nervous as the chattering classes about this? they might not have agreed that the debate formants was terrible. tell me how does it manifest for them? >> honestly the voters i've spoken to, not much has changed for t

project 2025 has now seeped into culture with a big help from taraji p. henson.ows the facts, if everyone knows the stakes that democrats should feel very confident about their prospects in november? >> well, i'm very encouraged that we are giving so much attention to project 2025 because, frankly, it is terrifying. the more we talk about it and the more people understand what it means and what it wouldn't mean for americans if trump makes his way back to the white house, i think the likelihood of him getting elected is just going to shrink because this -- this outline, this agenda is absolutely terrifying. as far as the polls, i don't really pay attention to them. it's a snapshot in time. i don't think they're indicative of what's going to happen in november. we know it's a long race. we know it's going to be a close race, but the polls are just a snapshot in time. i think in this election between the biden/harris campaign and the trump/vance campaign you have a choice, a very stark choice in two extremely different vision for our future. on the one hand you've

this is being led from cultural icons and cultural figures more than from political actors, taraji p. hensont as one of the most googled political search terms. it is a case. a case must be prosecuted in front of the american people. but the vast majority of americans are opposed to everything on every one of the 900 pages. >> well that is for sure. and i rarely ever want to take exception to anything vaughn hillyard said, but i will say i bet every dollar in your bank account nicolle wallace, that he is not familiar with it or endorse it or his people have not worked on it or it wasn't designed to carry out his vision. but i would bet again, that he hasn't read 900 pages in his entire life. he might not have read 90 pages in his life. that said, it is absolutely correct that on the cultural side, on the political side, on every side, with someone lays out a vision for government, this clear and this disturbing and this far outside of the mainstream of what american voters want, it is imperative, absolutely imperative for all of those who are on team democracy and i would say the presidentia

we're behind the great taraji p. henson. court decision has focused the minds of the media, i hope. we're going to try to get through a lot of it. it's about 600 pages long, but tell us what you first sort of seized upon? i know you've been looking at project 2025 for a long time. >> yeah, i have. i also think it's important to show how it's directly tied to the trump campaign agenda because i think it's almost too easy for trump to dismiss it by saying that's an outside group. what i did through my work was put together this resource called the authoritarian playbook 2025. that talks through the systemic ways trump campaign agenda overlaps with project 2025 in ways that would dismantle our democracy. that sounds really exaggerated but it is not. so we went through and really tried to explain in a factual, no nonsense way about how this goes down. we've divided it up to several areas. the first has to do with how trump will consolidate power against his enemies. there's a lot of material, policy wise, that project 2025 agend

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