conversation this is igor pavlyuk , laureate of the all-ukrainian prize named after dmytro kremeni and taras kremenithe representative of the protection of the state language p igor, mr. taras, i congratulate you good day we will start well, we will talk today what separately about the all-ukrainian award named after the laureate of the shevchenko prize of ukraine, the outstanding poet and public figure dmytro kreven well, but we will talk in general about ukrainian literature during the war, its state, the state of the book publishing industry, and why it is so important to support literature in principle, to read what literature does ukrainian society need today, well, which during the war needs many things and literature in particular well, in general, literature as propaganda , how much should it be financed by the state why again is it important literature as propaganda literature is possible as well as counter propaganda why is it important a certain broadcast we will start with you please tell me according to your assessment, according to your observations, to what extent is the book publishi

with us ihor pavlyuk is a guest of the all-ukrainian prize named after dmytro kremeni writer and taras kremeni commissioner for the protection of the state language well, we have there are literally 12 minutes left for the conversation. i would like to concentrate on what , igor, i will ask you about what you talked about, what about our people, now the vast majority are either depressed or aggressive, and it is clear that now literature, it also works for the consumer, relatively speaking, this war continues, we do not know how long it will last, and writers must also give people certain messages , certain certain sustenance that is needed now. after this war, i would like to ask you what kind of food people need now, and how do you, as a writer, see and evaluate the war itself and what is happening to us, what assessment would you give to this artist? first of all, i haven't talked to mr. taras for a long time. i'm glad that he, uh, thinks very clearly, concretely, acts, and hmm, and this is very clearly visible in his speech. that is, he is a real statesman, it's not just a compliment, i'm