i'm thinking either tarbell, rachel carson spent i think one of the interesting things about many ofhe books or is there not a great social movements that some either lead to legislation. so we see the jungle intercut and we know that really created the forerunner legislation through food and drug administration and create. so not on social movement but actually legislation. actually social change. spent and why 88? >> eighty-eight is really just where we decide to stop. we were worried about using a number that comment associated with a definitive list. so we avoided 10, 25 and 100. yarn that it was kind of up for grabs. and we got to 88 we were thinking, we think that's a good number. it won't get anyone the impression that we mean this is the 88. >> poetry, religious books, are the in your? >> they are. we have quite a few, friend to spend at least the century. so we've got walt whitman. we have allen ginsberg. so we really tried to be very clear that poetry has been an impressive part of american history, and that america is have been very committed to both writing and reading po

there are people like lincoln steffens and ida tarbell and upton sinclair i guess are the most famous many come forward to the 60's and now you see more of that kind of critical you know intellectual emergence in the american press. there's a market for stories that dig in and to give people like halberstam. >> guest: all the great investigative reporting teams he put together both for regional, national and international pieces. he was a real trendsetter that time toward looking at the big issues, not just the small ones and set the pace for really an awful lot of -- at the time. >> guest: it was not a widespread occupation. let's put it that way. "the new york times" basically did very little. you had a -- massacre. that would have been a logical place for it. a little news service and little papers around the country. >> host: . [inaudible] >> guest: no, that was -- seymour hersh but he was at the times wasn't he? >> guest: no. later he was. >> guest: the times was very late in coming to investigative reporting. >> host: why is it that we have so little investigative reporting toda

i'm thinking ida tarbell, upton sinclair, rachel carson. >> yes. i think one of the interesting things about many of the books here are that they not only created social movements but some even lead to legislation, so we see the jungle in here and we know that it really created the forerunner legislation to the food and drug administration being created. not only social movements but actually legislation, actually social change. >> y. 88? >> 88 is where we decided to stop. we were worried about using a number that commonly was associated with a definitive list so we avoided 10, 25 and 100. beyond that it was kind of up for grabs the moment got to 88 we said we think that's a good number. it won't get anybody the impression that we

there's people like that against a fence and ida tarbell and upton sinclair is the most famous. and then you come forward to the 60s and now you see more of that kind of critical, intellectual consciousness emerge as the market for stories that take in and you get people like oliver sin. what you meant you cannot. >> guest: neil cherbourg, bob greeted newsday and all the great investigative reporting team to put together, both for regional, national and even international cases, was a real trendsetter at the time, looking at the big issues, not just the small ones. so they set the pace for a lot of businesses at the time. just go to not a widespread occupation, let's put it that way. "the new york times" actually did very little. you had a meal and massacre. that would've been a logical place for it. with a little news service in little papers around the country. >> host: [inaudible] >> guest: now, that was seymour hersh. >> host: he was -- >> guest: no, literacy was. most people tend not to think about it. >> host: why is it we had so much literary reporting today? is it becaus

thinking ida tarbell, rachel carson. >> yesment. -- yes.ne of the interesting thing about the books is they not only created social movements, but some even led to legislation. we see that the jungle new here and know that it really created the forerunner legislation to the food and drug legislation, but actually social change. >> why 88? >> 88 is really just where we decided to stop. we were worried about using a number that's commonly sortedded with a defin nigh list, so we avoided 10, 25, and 100. beyond that, it was up to grabs. when we got to 88, we thought it was a good number. it didn't give the impression that it was the 88. >> religious books in here and poetry? >> there are. there's a running span of two centuries. we have walt whitman and allen beginsberg. we tried to be clear that poetry has been an impressive part of america's history, and that americans have been very committed to both writing and reading poetry. i think that continues today. >> what about religious books? >> well, we do have a holographic bible. a lot of the

i want to -- i'm thinking ida tarbell, upon the sinclair -- upon the sinclair. >> yes. not only created social movements, but some even led to legislation. so we see that the jungle in here, and we know that it really created the forerunner legislation to, um, the food and drug administration being created. so not only social movements, but actually legislation, actually social change. >> and why 88? >> 88 is really just where we decided to stop. we were worried about using a number that's commonly associated with a definitive list. so we avoided 10, 25 and 100. beyond that it was kind of up for grabs, and when we got to 88, we said, you know, we think that's a good number. it won't give anybody the impression that we mean this is the 88. >> poetry, religious books, are they in here? >> they are. we have quite a few, um, exemplars of poetry sort of running the span of at least two centuries, so we've got walt whitman, we have alan ginsburg. so we really tried to be very clear that poetry has been an impressive part of america's history and that americans have been very