encounter tasers. if it is only going to crisis trained officers they will see the tasers first, thank you for your time. >> thank you. >> next speaker please? >> micala davis i am an attorney with the aclu of california, most of the supervisors have a copy of the letter that we sent to mayor lee this summer which outlines a majority of our position. but i would like to highlight a few issues here today. we believe that other speakers have said that the police department fulfills the obligation to fully implement the cit program and unless and until they complete a stud yf all less lethal alternatives and complete the obligation to meet with the community members on this issue that it is entirely premature to investigate a pilot program for tasers in this city, had the department moved more quickly to implement the cit training the incident this summer may have been avoided. tasers constitute a significant level of force as we have heard today. too often, they are viewed as homeless, non-lethal devices

and today i come to oppose against tasers and i have to maintain why i oppose against tasers. because they are killing people. the tasers are killing people and we have several number of people that be killing for the police. they be shooting for the police. and the reason why oposing and we are oposing against tasers. so i prefer to see something given, i prefer to see like a weekend create kind of level and consciousness to the police to let me how killing the people. or to feeling better to the people, immigrants like latinos or people who come from around the world to this country. so we don't need to create more, new, forms of how we can killing people. first this is a killer. tasers are killers and we have already known these numbers. so please supervisors be supporting and oposing against tasers, again any time that tasers are weapons to killing people, more with mental illness, for homelessness, with living without any protection, any support. so please, against tasers, thank you so much. >> thank you, next speaker, please? >> couple other cards. david lewis, and ben.

are tasers necessary for this? i would say, no. psych tech, works in a job where we are working with mentally ill people, they don't use them. okay, you could argue well in the environment of a hospital the psych teches work there are no weapons, but that argument holds no, does not have any validity because the vast majority of cases where people are tased no weapon was involved on the part of the victim. it is true that the... it is true that there is a higher percentage of them that have been tased. this is from national data. and i think that it is also just manifestly obvious that it is going to be used for in cases of lack of compliance, rather than dangers, no tasers. >> i oppose the use of tasers and i am not from the city but i have friends and family here in sf and i am from southern county and i am here because i would oppose the use of tasers in my city just as would oppose it and i am taking steps to make sure that the county is addressing these concerns. and i lived in the city for series of years when i got my ba in

encounter tasers. if it is only going to crisis trained officers

one of the few studies on tasers that was not bought by taser international that showed that in-custody fatalities go up 600 percent in the first year. and are you aware that tasers only have a useful life of five years or so after which they need to be scraped and repurchased. each defibrillator costs twice the money of the tasers and also like to add that the deescalation training was scaled back by the sfpd and the stated reason was lacks of funds, how do we have the money to train the force to use another weapon of violence and how can we expect the citizens to react with anything but violence in the face of a police department who models that behavior? >> thank you. next speaker, please? >> good afternoon, my name is bolder and i am with the gray panthers. and i really appreciate your holding this hearing. i'm not sure that there is anything that i want to add to the numerous things that have been said about concern with the use of the tasers. and i did... a couple of things came to mind. one is that i think that the advocacy for the use of tasers is also coming from the company th

encounter tasers. if it is only going to crisis trained officers they will see the tasers first, thank you for your time. >> thank you. >> next speaker please? >> micala davis i am an attorney with the aclu of california, most of the supervisors have a copy of the letter that we sent to mayor lee this summer which outlines a majority of our position. but i would like to highlight a few issues here today. we believe that other speakers have said that the police department fulfills the obligation to fully implement the cit program and unless and until they complete a

that if tasers are so safe, why do you need to have a defibrillator available? >> it was the recommendation that came from one doctor. although there is not a single. there is one case out of arizona where the medical examiners identified tasers as being the cause of death. and every single other case there are a multitude of issues surrounding the in-custody death but not one that has been identified as being caused by electronic control weapons. >> but with that said, it is a matter of what safe guards can we put in place in the event that one is used and there is an issue with a short shopage. >> and that is my point, defibrillators are to treat life threatening. if we are trying to replace a lethal weapon a gun with a non-lethal weapon, we are talking about replacing a gun with a taser where because of the potential lethality of it you actually have to have this instrument available in the event that there is a life-threatening incident. that is the problem that i is that you know, in theory, even if you agree with the concept that you go and you replace a l

it puts those folks in crisis at greater risk of encountering tasers, not to

they also don't have tasers. but he said that he would like to entertain something like we are discussing here but for budget constraints, but no the memphis model is a good model. i actually believe that ours is almost a memphis model plus. >> we will be going to that with the commanders, but i appreciate you can here. and talk to you soon. >> well, let's call of our commanders. >> would you like opening comments? >> we are joined by supervisor david compos as well. >> good morning, i am the current coordinator of the police department's crisis intervention team. just kind of want to give you an overview of what has taken place since i have taken charge of this effort in september of last year. since that time, we have had three classes where we trained not only san francisco police officers, but officers from other agencies in total we have trained 118 san francisco police officers that would be three lieutenants, and 13 sergeants and 103 patrol officers. and those officers are equally disbursed in the patrol f

they also don't have tasers. but he said that he would like to entertain something like we are discussing here but for budget constraints, but no the memphis model is a good model. i actually believe that ours is almost a memphis model plus. >> we will be going to that with the commanders, but i appreciate you can here. and talk to you soon. >> well, let's call of our commanders. >> would you liop

fatalities every one of those studies were funded by taser international. of the independent studies not funded by the people profiting off these weapons, they found things like the 2009 ucsf study that the deaths more than doubles in the first year and the following years the number of shootings decrease but stayed above what it had been before tasers and this seems to be the trend, when tasers are introduced they are a new tool, it is exciting and get used a lot. and when that initial excitement levels out it is not decreasing fatalities. >> thank you. >> thank you very much. >> are there any other members of the public who would like to comment? in this hearing? and seeing, none, come forward we will close the public comment. we want to thank the members of the public for being here and taking part of in hearing and sharing their thoughts and concerns and their expertise as well. it is critical that we hear especially from folks who work in the neighborhood that probably have the highest incident of mental health crisis in san francisco where we would se

and push the taser and cycle it. >> deaton blasts german's back and neck with his taser. time, officer malcolm tipton reaches the scene. he races toward the brawl with his taser locked and loaded. >> as i got about 10 to 15 feet from them, officer deaton turned mr. german toward me and gave me a clear shot. tipton lets loose the barbs and zaps german with a direct hit. >> the officers cuff and arrest german. >> paramedics arrive at the scene to treat officer deaton. >> my adrenaline was still rushing. i saw all this blood that was on me and at this time i could see it was dripping off my nose. >> deaton's nose has been sliced open from one of german's punches. in the safety of the ambulance, the officer realizes the severity of the attack. >> realized, man, this is for real. this guy was really trying to take me out. luckily i'm still here and i started thinking of my wife and kid. good thing was, i was on the better side of it, even though i did get injured. >> and his injuries are significant. >> basically, i had to have reconstructive surgery on my whole eye socket. he

taser. taser. taser. >> lay her down. let her go. >> don't move. five second. >> we want the guys to be able to function under any circumstance. you don't want anybody going home any other way than from the way they came. >> i just finished being sprayed with oc in the eye. oc in the mouth. and getting washed off. then getting tased. all in a day's work. i love my job. >>> training is put into action on a nearly daily basis at bexar county. a code two. a major disturbance. requires the team to rush to the special observation unit. an inmate has been throwing chairs and trash throughout the day room. when they arrive the inmate has returned to his cell. >> look, look at the door! but since it is arnulfo guerra, the matter is far from closed. guerra has been at the center of several disturbances and is prone to frequent mood swings. they reached the peak one month earlier when he attempted to hang himself. and while staff no longer consider guerra suicidal they continue to keep him under close observation. >> he is upset because another officer, alle

he had no problem at all taking the taser. >> the taser has minimal effect. so deputy meyer tries again. >> the whole time on the video when i'm in the front the taser is deployed in the upper chest area. >> this time the taser subdues the suspect and myers is able to get the cuffs on him. >> it seems like it took forever for backup to get there. in reality i believe he was there within a minute. >> more officers arrive on the scene and the fight is over for the moment. >> i walked him outside and turned around to get my paperwork started, and then he kicked out the window. we had to taser him again. take him out of the police car and then shackle his legs. >> davis is transported to a local hospital where he's found to be under the influence of drugs and alcohol. >> a lot of times drugs have an influence on people. specifically cocaine and pcp can give them super human strength with a lot of adrenaline. >> he's charged with multiple offenses, including battery on a police officer, attempted armed robbery, criminal mischief, and resisting arrest. he pleads no

on tasers. we sit down with the city's top cop for more on his stun gun proposal. >>> it is 7:30 sunday, december 9th. thanks for starting your sunday morning with us. i'm anne makovec. >> and i'm phil mateer. lot of news and talk to cover in the next hour. no sooner did the legislature get back in session than talk is up in sacramento about changing proposition 13, one of the biggest debates probably we'll see in sometime. state senator mark leno will join us live to talk about the idea of changing it. >> one local county is talking about using drones as far as gathering intelligence, remote control planes that have a camera on them. lot of people are concerned about privacy when it comes to that proposal. we'll take an in-depth look at that as well. >>> right now, the back-and-forth between the white house and republicans in congress is showing no signs of letting up. >> there is a little more than three weeks left before the u.s. goes over that fiscal cliff we've been talking about. cbs repor

the taser landed on a zipper, and he wasn't shocked by the weapon.owards him thinking the weapon had worked, and he pointed his firearm at my head and fired two shots straight directly at my head. you can see him firing point-blank. >> a lot of noise. a lot of flashing. it's all sort of blurry because it happened so quickly. >> a fellow officer lends him a weapon and a bullet proof vest. a fast and furious gun battle breaks out. >> i decided that i would shoot him in the lower leg, dropping him to the ground, rendering him immobile, and then rush at him and shoot him point-blank in the stomach area. >> but the gunman isn't going down without a fight. he shoots him in the shoulder. >> it went straight through me. i didn't feel it at all. i went to touch under my arm, and i felt a wet substance there. i was able to put my thumb into my shoulder, so i knew i had been hit. >> despite his injury, dilorenzo helps free the hostages, then he is brought to the hospital. at the end of the four-hour siege, the gunman, a 39-year-old man injured and bleeding heav

so we're not asking for tasers for all san francisco police officers were asking for tasers for 5% of the department. they're the ones that have been most trained to deal with those that are in crisis and that's pretty much been the best practice in this country that you give it o out to a small group, the most training so that officers don't end up testing out the new toy. >> in san francisco, i don't get it, the opposition is what. i mean, it seems like they say that they don't want to increase the likelihood of violence or somebody getting tased but if the only other option is to club or shoot someone, what's the objection. >> again, that's why it's lost on me to be honest with you. i just think to have nothing between a stick and pepper spray and deadly force, we are at least as good as any other police department in dealing with people in crisis but the problem is when somebody that's in crisis is going to harm somebody other than themselves like an officer, you have to do something to be able to beat back the attack and right now all we have is lethal force. >> we have to wrap y

one of the officers fires a taser gun. 50,000 volts of electricity into the man's body through two darts attached to a wire. he falls to the ground, screaming in pain. >> hit him again. hit him again. >> the man writhes on the ground in agony. officers pile on top and attempt to handcuff him. but a struggle ensues as airport personnel look on. officers continue to subdue the man. >> from what we know, they tasered him at least twice, possibly more. witnesses could hear the taser. worry, how are they still fighting him off? >> nobody knows why. he just speaks russian. nobody knows why. >> as the man loses consciousness, police switch from tying to control him to checking his vital signs. >> he's unconscious? i heard them say code red. >> i was thinking i will kiss him very soon, and i will hug him soon. >> tragically, robert zekonski, a 40-year-old polish man immigrating to canada, dies minutes later. how did such a misfortune come to pass? the heartbreaking story begins nearly 12 hours earlier at 3:12 p.m., when robert arr

determine where the issues are here, i think that the people that are bringing this issue of temporary tasers for the limited number of officers are inflating these issues and they are different. health and safety. and i think that the issue about weapons, belongs in the safety department. and the training of officers, i have a question, i have no idea are officers trained to use guns, lethal guns in a non-lethal way? >> that would solve the problem >> they developed the cit training and i think that

. >> people are all fired up over the debate on tasers. we sat down with the top cop for more on the stun gun proposal. >> no sooner did the legislature go back in session than there is already talk about modifying the biggest tax law in the state. >> that affects all property owners, plus drones. we are talking about remote control airplanes with cameras on them and how they can help law enforcement and privacy advocates concerned. more on that. >> and more back and forth between the white house and republicans in congress showing no signs of letting up. >> yes , there are three weeks left until the u.s. goes over the fiscal cliff. we have been talking about that for weeks now. we have more on the progress, or lack there of, in washington. >> reporter: in his saturday weekly address, president obama signaled he is open to making cuts on programs like medicare and medicaid if republicans agree to raise tax rates for the rich. >> i am willing to find way to bring down the cost of health care without hurting seniors and other american who is

get down on your knees. >> officer anderson uses his taser. >> get down on your knees!> but it misfires. >> and then that's when he turned and charged right at me. my first reaction was basically to get out of the way. >> mallory outweighs officer anderson by more than 100 pounds and wrestles him to the ground out of the camera's view. >> the first thing i realized when i ended up on my back was definitely this was not a very good place to be with this guy on top of me. >> and then as officer anderson lives helpless -- >> kind of crawled up my body, up to my face and that's when he bit part of my eyebrow off. >> wedged between the curb and his car and bleeding profusely, officer anderson is struggling to free himself. >> and i was doing the best i could to just remain conscious. everything around me was starting to get kind of dark. and that's when i heard another gentleman run up to the area and began throwing punches as well to him. >> out of nowhere a man runs around in front of officer's anderson's cruiser and starts fighting mallory. >> as it turns out it's a plain