no store employee had made that accusation against john or against tasha. >> right. me quickly ask tasha, at any point did the police apologize to you or say they'd gotten it wrong? >> no, not at all. >> to this day, that's the problem here. >> go on, anthony. >> to this day, that's still the problem. you know, they treated tasha as though she was a second class citizen, as though she had no rights ashgsz though she did not just suffer a significant loss and they became very accusatory from the beginning. i think that's the challenging part here. they did not treat her with the dignity that people should be treated with. and that's part of the problem here. it seems as though the rights of maybe police officers are superseding the rights of ordinary citizens. that's just not the indication. >> lastly to you, tasha, to this day have you heard anything more from the beaver creek police? have they said anything to you in regard to the way you were treated or in regard to the shooting of john crawford iii? >> they have not. >> you've had no -- >> no. none other than the

. >> joining me tonight is tasha thomas and her attorney, anthony >> detective curd also presses more on intoxication of that >> joining me tonight is tasha thomas and her attorney, anthony i can only imagine what it was like to live through. when you look back at the video, and when you think about what view of the way the officer >> very unexplanatory. it was really uncalled for. i stated several times that i had nothing to do with it. >> did you feel that they were keeping you informed about what happened to your boyfriend there? did you feel like you were being treated as a family member of a inside the cruiser and took to the police station. >> why did they tell you they >> if i could ask you, and if you don't want to answer, you don't have to at all. but what was your reaction when after all of this and this interrogation and then they told you for the first time that he >> it kind of took a toll on me. what was wrong with the police >> i think there's multiple with respected to tasha and john yents to make s'mores for a so from the time that law enforcement got ahold of her, sh

and tasha, this is incredibly difficult to watch.only national what it was like to live through. thank you for being here. when you look back at the video and when you think about what you went through, what was your view of the way the officer there treated you? >> very inflammatory. it was really uncalled for. i stated several times i had >> did you feel that they were keeping you informed about what happened to your boyfriend there? did you feel like you were being treated as a family member of7@a why did they tell you were being detained? >> they said because he had got the gun out of my vehicle and he was trying to rob the pharmacy inside of wal-mart. >> and if i can ask you, if you don't want to answer you don't have to at all, but what was your reaction when, after all of this, in this interrogation, then they told you for the first time that he was killed that day? >> kind of took a toll on me. i mean, every minute, second by second, as it comes. i no longer make plans for anything because you never know if you're going to be

. >> my name is tasha.st name is wayne. >> 37-year-old bernard tasha wayne was serving a sentence for parole violation. so how were you making money on the streets? >> prostitution and selling drugs. >> one of the things bernard did on occasion inside l.a. county jail was put on beauty pageants. he was like a peacock. he wanted to show off his feathers. >> like the miss america pageant, we do them in here. we do them for the boys, and we have the girls, the boys, the school boys, all kind of stuff like that. it's a variety of things that you can run for. it's not just beauty. we cover with sheets and towels, stuff like that, for dresses. you know, we destroy state property. >> do you wear makeup? >> yes. look at my face. >> we explored another special housing unit at l.a. county as well, the mental health ward where we encountered one of the most unforgettable scenes ever shown on "lockup." >> there's one gentleman in particular who, i could barely see him because there was so much graffiti on his cell door

. >> my name is tasha.y last name is swain. >> 37-year-old bernard "tasha" swain was serving a nine-month sentence for a parole violation. >> how do you make money on the streets? >> prostitution and selling drugs. >> one of the other things that bernard did on occasion inside l.a. county jail is to put on beauty pageants. like a peacock, so he wanted to show off his feathers. >> you know the miss america pageant? we do them in here but we do them for the boys and we have for girls and boys, the school boys. the vogue and all that kind of stuff like that. it's a variety of things you can run for. it's not just beauty. we cut up sheets and towels and make little dresses and you know. we destroy state property to make the outfits. >> do you make them look better? >> yes, actually. look at my face. >> we explored another special housing unit at l.a. county as well. the mental health ward where we encountered one of the most unforgettable scenes ever shown on "lockup." >> there was one gentleman in particular w

crawford and collected the gun so the fact that they interrogated tasha after they knew that this was a toy gun, it's unbelievable. it was as if they were trying to get tasha to illicit or to say something that would help cover up or justify why they unjustly shot and killed john crawford iii. >> john, the cleveland browns wrv spoke he wore the shirt with your son's name on during his warm-ups on sunday and talked about tamir rice who is 12 years old because he was worried this could happen to his son, what does it mean to you that he put that shirt on and wore it, even though the police union in cleveland called it pretty pathetic and have demanded an apology? >> we're eternally grateful. it shows he has respect and he's definitely a man's man, in my opinion and in my family's opinion. he understands and he's aware of what is going on in today's society and not afraid to take a stand. it shows me he's a morally and ethically sounded person. he comes from a great family and a great state of beliefs. for him to exhibit that. >> today i know you announced a federal civil lawsuit against

rodney kurt grills tasha thomas, the girlfriend of john crawford iii.just minutes after police opened fire killing crawford inside an ohio walmart. >> why would he have a gun in the walmart? >> i don't know. >> reporter: this is the incident all caught on camera, surveillance video on august 5th shows crawford wandering the aisles, talking on the phone and carrying what looks like a rifle. a concerned customer called 9-1-1 and police responded. >> holding a gun. pointing it. >> i'm in the walmart. did you say he's pointing it at people? >> affirmative, no. >> reporter: crawford's family argues crawford never had a chance. the video shows he had back to police and was on the phone when they approached and the officers opened fire just one second after they confronted crawford. >> one of these is a real gun and one was the gun crawford was carrying that day. as you can see, it's very hard to tell the difference. >> reporter: crawford was holding a pellet gun he picked up from a store shelf, not a rifle. in september, a grand jury chose not to indict the o

. >> that's right, tasha thomas his girlfriend with him at walmart on that day.ad gone to walmart to get some items to make s'mores for a family cookout and during that time when they were shopping, he got a phone call from his ex, who is the mother of his two children and wandered off to take that phone call. and it was during that time he picked up the gun and was eventually shot by police. now, just minutes after the shooting, tasha thomas was whisked away to the police station and sits down to do an interview with a detective. detective rodney kerr who you see in this interrogation video just grills her over and over and over again asking her why crawford had the gun, which she continues to reply, she knows nothing about it. and he doesn't believe her. he even goes so far as to threaten jail time, accusing her of lying. and after about 90 minutes of this, he finally tells her that crawford is dead. watch. >> well, to let you know, you know, unfortunately, john has passed away. as a result of this. i don't know any other way to tell you. what happened there wa

i swear i didn't know. >> tasha, i'm having trouble with this. >> give me a lie detector test. >> that -- >> please. >> very emotional interrogation. it's a total of 90 minutes and we've learned tonight that detective's name is rodney curd. and a part of this tape i'm about to play next, don, he questions the sobriety of thomas. >> was he under the influence of anything? >> no. >> had he been drinking? >> no. >> drugs? >> no. >> your eyes are kind of messed up looking and you seem a little lethargic at times. i don't know if it's because you're upset or not. >> the only medicine i took today was my medicine early this morning. and it's called adesan. i haven't taken anything since. >> you have a prescription for that? >> yes, sir. >> in police documents we received earlier tonight rodney kern, that detective, tries to explain himself saying he essentially didn't have all the facts during the course of that interrogation. he said it was only until afterwards that he learned that that gun was taken off the store shelves there at walmart and that crawford didn't bring it in himself. >> an

now, we did have a chance to read through the report made by this detective who was interrogating tashae essentially said his line of questioning was under the assumption that john crawford had brought the gun into the store, that he did not know the back story when police later were able to look at the surveillance video. he also said he waited that long to tell her that crawford had died because he also did not know crawford had died and he told her as soon as he learned it he says. carol. >> wow. i'm sure you'll continue to follow this story. ana cabrera reporting live from this morning. thank you. >>> let's return to our breaking news from the political world. as i told you, jeb bush announcing on twitter he will explore the possibility of running for president of the united states. i want to talk with gloria borger. she's on the phone right now. hi, gloria. >> hi. >> i like his tortured wording. "i'm excited to announcely actively explore the possibility of running for president of the united >> it's a little tortured. that's what they all say. i was told last week that when jeb bu

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. >> 37-year-old bernard tasha swain was serving a nine-month sentence for parole violation. >> one ofe other things bernard did on occasion inside the jail was put on beauty pageants. he was like a peacock. >> like the miss america pageant. we do one for the boys and then the girls and then the school boys and the vogue and all that stuff like that. a variety of things. it's not just beauty. we cut up sheet and towels and stuff like that to make dresses. we destroy state property to make them. >> you make this? >> yes. it's comfortable. >> we explored another special housing unit at los angeles county as well. the mental health word where we encountered one of most unforgettable scenes. >> one gentleman in particular who i could barely see him because there would so is much graffiti on his cell door, and all over his walls, looked like -- human feces and a little mustard on it for coloring. he's been here a longtime so continually works on it. >> then i saw that the inmate inside, he was completely naked except for cellophane over his priority parts. he doesn't seem violent, wasn't hu

as tasha thomas sobbed, police accused her of lying and threatened to jail her. >> i want to be clear. that man produced that weapon. that man had the weapon, you picked him up. you had your car or something. you understand we are investigating and -- a serious incident. you lied to me, and you might be on your way to jail. >> police questioned thomas for over an hour and a half before telling her that her boyfriend, john crawford, was dead. former florida republican governor jeb bush has announced announced he will actively explore a run for president in 2016. jeb bush is the brother of former president george w. bush and the son of former president george h.w. bush. in 2000, as the governor of florida, his administration wrongfully purged 12,000 eligible voters from the rolls. jeb bush expressed skepticism about human-caused climate change and once said during a failed bid for governor in 1994 that women on welfare quote "should be able to get their life together and find a husband." in a departure from his party's -- right wing republicans, he supported comprehensive immigration re

they told you for the first time that he longer make plans for give us your think there's multiple tashan s'mores for a her, second-degree or a she wasn't treated with any kind decision that joan crawford had done something they were accusatory from the her, no on this? gotten worse since the thought they highly dangerous of what happened that day, did they have reason to believe that mr. crawford was a threat there? do you think they took enough time to figure that out? >> no. >> you know, ari, they did not give him any time to respond. there were no shots being fired. none of the store pers nel alerted law enforcement with shots fired. we continue to hear police responded to active shots fired. there was no active shooter. law enforcement asked him to put lives were in jeopardy, but, clearly, that's not what anthony, thank you for your for you telling us part of your story yesterday during pre-game introductions. now the head of the cleveland police patrolman's association is demanding an apology. we will have that police perspective straight ahead. protected. given new hope. during th

they believe police tried to cover up their mistake afterwards by trying to coerce tasha thomas intoaying something that might justify the shooting. >> we're investigating a serious incident. you lie to me and you might be on your way to jail. >> i swear to god. >> you were with him just moments before this happened. you need to tell me the truth. >> i am. i am. i swear to god. i swear to god. >> are you under the influence of anything? been drinking? >> no. no. >> drugs? >> no. >> your eyes are funny looking and you seem lethargic. i don't know if it's because you're upset or not. >> this goes on for 950 minutes before she learns her boyfriend is dead. >> well, just to let you know, unfortunately john has passed away as a result of this. i don't know any other way to tell you. what happened there wasn't a good thing. and it was all of his actions. he is gone. >> police say there was no coercion. the detectives say he was questioning thomas based on what hifs told by police on the scene of the shooting. and they initially thought that it was a real gun and that crawford had brought i

tasha thomas was a guest on "all in" on monday. i want to show this video.sten. >> it kind of took a toll on me. i mean, i live it every minute. second by second, as it comes. i no longer make plans for anything. you never know if you're going to be here today or gone tomorrow. >> so i want to know what all of you take away from that tape. i'll start with you, detective. >> i did see that tape. it was incredible to watch. totally -- i'm speechless. like i am now. how do you interrogate a victim who just lost a loved one who is not a suspect at all? >> but it was more than interrogation. it was a flat-out lie. >> lie. >> and i'm sorry to be a lawyer. she better sue. >> she offered to take a lie detector test several times. >> the psychological damage that has been done to that woman, which i am sure she can prove in the treatment that she will receive, deserves compensation. >> absolutely. >> and the loss of life that she's suffered. this wasn't an interrogation. >> we could argue for all the indignities suffereded from the police action. tamir rice's 14-year

the winner was la tasha, will become a chef at gordon ramsey's public and grill opening in february,lantic city. >> gordon ramsey was here sometime back. everyone said he is the nicest man. >> he is nice. >> yes. >> in real life. >> pope francis was tweeted to cake, cards and tango demonstration for his birthday. >> so dozens of couples as you will see here perform the pope's favorite dance in saint peters square, right there at the vatican. however, he did not dance himself. the pope turned 78 years old yesterday. a spanish producer also sent the pope more than 1700 pounds of chicken meat, as a gift. the vatican says that meat will be distributed to soup kitchens. >> 6:49. two kansas city parent are beyond upset after they say that their blind son's school bus driver took away his cane, and replaced it in instead with a pool noodle. >> so school officials say eight year old dakota was miss behaving on the bus, and hit someone with his cane. so the driver took it away. the problem is, dakota depend on his cane, and obviously, a pool noodle just won't do the trick. >> why would you ta

the low rate tasha i think jerry brown text of you guys don't take a flat tax works. you don't think people like it. in 1990 i did jerry brown's flat tax which we got rid of all federal taxes, all of them. rid of the income tax. we got rid of the corporate tax. we got rid of all payroll taxes, both employer and deploy. we got rid of the gift taxes. we got rid of capital gains tax, estate taxes, excise taxes, medicare taxes, medicaid taxes. we got rid of terrorists. we got rid of all of them, with one exception. we kept something called syntax. syntax, i guess we americans don't like drunk guys smoking while they shoot each other. but the syntax our little bitty tiny tax but if you get rid of all those federal taxes, static revenue neutral, full employment for your tax bills, highest, you could replace all federal taxes today with a flat rate tax on personal an adjusted gross income and a flat rate tax on business net sales, call it value-added, you could do that at a rate of 11.8% of static revenue neutral. no laffer curve effect, none of that. could you imagine what

. >> tasha, i'm having trouble with this. >> give me a lie detector test. >> that might come in the futuree's grilling her as if she committed a crime. this video is disturbing. but it's part of a growing problem. people who have lost loved ones to police shootings deserve to be treated with respect and dignity, not as if they've done something wrong. joining me now are mark clq cla and former new york city police officer and former prosecutor and host of "just faith," thanks for being here tonight. faith, they say the officer didn't even tell her john crawford was dead until 90 minutes into the interrogation. what's your reaction to this video? >> this video was so disturbing to watch, especially in light of what we know now about what happened in that walmart. but sometimes police officers have to question witnesses or suspects in a hostile manner to get information. but this wasn't one of those cases. this woman was not a suspect. there was a phone call with the walmart about john crawford. she had done nothing wrong. she was not suspected of doing anything wrong. and the way this offic

you look at the video and this detective hammer this is woman tasha thomas, asking her over and overagain as if she's lying "time"-to-him in response when she said "i didn't know he had a gun. he never brought it into the store." listen to this. >> that man had a weapon when you picked him up. he had in the your car or something. you understand that we're investigating a serious incident. you lie to me and you might be on your way to jail. >> i swear to god, i swear to god on my kids, on my job and my family, on everything i love -- >> where did he get the gun? >> sir, i don't know. i swear to god. >> now, the detective in his report says he was asking her these questions over and over again and not believing her because at the time he did not know crawford picked up 2 gun inside the store, nor did he know that it was actually a bb gun. however the family attorney on crawford's side says they believe this is evidence that the detective and that the police department was trying to coerce john crawford's girlfriend into telling them a reason, to justify the killing. john? >> all right,

. >> tasha robbins. >> come on, come on, come on. feel that?ow you doing? i'll never forget about that. that's all we've got. >> bring it in, bring it in. starting from the bottom. now we're here. nice to meet you. nice to meet you. >> 1/8 black. >> bring it in the room. >> i love that. >> when he's saying things to other black people that's so cryptic. you know we could don't that. hey, we're going to put it on. >> starting from the bottom that we're here. >> there's a psychic connection here. >> i love that. what ee's happening fam. that's the thing you can do nobody else can. you take racial issues and dive right in. >> that's right. >> that's what makes people so unkwort mardable. our very favorite thing to do, gail, is doing skefrps that have nothing to do with race. we love >> the president asked you to help with a sketch. why did you turn them down? >> they said they're busy. who says that. >> we have contracts. we have to deliver a show. >> we love the president. obviously we're big fans. we got to see him essentially perform the skich

they believe police tried to cover up their mistake afterwards, by trying to coerce tasha thomas into justify the shooting. >> we're investigating a, a serious incident. you lie to me and you might be on your way to jail. so i'm going to be very clear about this. >> i swear to god -- >> you need to tell me the truth. >> i am. >> i am. i swear to god. i swear to god. >> are you under the influence of anything? >> no. >> been drinking? >> no. >> drugs? >> no. >> your eyes are kind of messed up. i don't know if it's because you're upset or not. >> br 90 minutes this goes on before thomas finally learns her boyfriend is dead. >> well, to let you know, unfortunately john has passed away. as a result of this. i don't know any other way to tell you. what happened there wasn't a good thing and as a result of his actions he is gone. >> now police say there was no coercion involved. the detective says he was questioning thomas based on what he was told by the police who were on scene of the shooting and he says initially. they thought crawford was carrying a real rifle. they thought he had brou

and at what point is tasha security concern and criminal concerns so great that we had to step in?i think the apple iphone example that you just gave, i think it's a gang changer, really. and if anything is going to push the next congress to do something, it's going to be that. because of every organization starts equipping its salesmen with apple iphone's and the police can't get in at all and if there's a bomb is hidden on a train somewhere and we can get into that apple iphone, there's going to be demand that come and it may come from a magistrate saying i'm ordering apple to unlock the phone come hell or high water. you figure it out. so if anything the amount of damage that society is going to suffer because of this is going to be the key factor that pushes congress. >> i want to ask one provocative and ask richard one question i had not planned on asking, but just so we get the doj position on the question which is did the framers intend that we be allowed to shoot down drones? [laughter] i think that's the question but i just, what is the doj and to do the? but more seriousl