regina grier and now tasha mack. very successful shows, both in syndication, both going really well. did you expect that? >> no. this is a business where you can have no expectations. you know. and even with tasha mack and "the game" we were canceled. so you know, we thought it was over. it was like okay, on to the next, try to get something else. and boom, there was a whole -- i want to say it was a resurgence. we got resuscitated. and now it's even bigger than what the network thought it could be, what the actors thought it could be, what the producers thought it could be. so it's really a phenomenon. pinch me. it's great. >> i've never seen anything like it. when you debuted on bet, you had about 7 or 8 million viewers. >> 7.7. but you know what's crazy? i even think it was more than that because most of -- i know the entire east coast was like snowed in because we did a whole radio ndur and they got together, they had "game" parties. >> i had one. >> did you? >> yes. i had like 25 people in the crib. >> so 7.7 pl