gentlemen welcome to the program 1st of all the peter tatchell. prison sentences are there to protect the public so handing out more lenient sentences whatever the circumstances really does it send the wrong message and leivick to fill shortchange. well this is not a generalized policy there are a small number of cases the actual volume of cases it's been somewhat exaggerated and the amount of production that sentence is actually mostly quite small so for example i 10 month sentence which would normally be applied is reduced by one month to 9 months so it's not as if prisoners are getting off scot free but i would certainly add that in the case of serious sexual advance offenses this policy should not apply the public needs to be protected but having said that there may be some individual circumstances where it is the right policy given the fact that in our prison system they're not really been able to tackle the covered it adequately there is often a shortage of masks and of sanitizing in prisons which is putting prisoners lives potentially at ri

debate this as you know and bring in a number of guests and friends of the program and say peter tatchell human rights activists and joan collins radio host columnist welcome to you both peter can we kick off with you please a person born as a meal the advantages that brings in speed and power going up against the female in a combat heavy sports such as rugby injuries and potentially serious ones are going to happen. let's be very clear. trans women. there's no real scientific evidence but they have an advantage what science there is is disputed and the degree of advantage is very minimal if we look at women athletes or women rugby players in general lots of them have other advantages over other players so for example some woman rugby players have fast twitch muscle fibers which enables them to run faster with a better chance of scoring a goal others have a longer legs which enables them to jump higher to grab the ball others have extra large hearts and lungs which means that they have greater resilience and energy and power but not all of these biological allman have been penalized it's

and there has been more fighting and tatchell to is reported in and around the disputed nagorno-karabakh region in the caucasus both sides armenia and azerbaijan accusing each other of targeting civilians in the flare up and fighting that began 3 weeks ago our correspondent you'll be on reports now from the city of down in azerbaijan as areas already say a missile attack by a 1000000 forces there still a dozen people and injured 40 over the weekend. on the ruins of what used to be her life. her neighborhood was destroyed in the missile attack over the weekend. for home 3 years. this is from where the rocket came there were houses everywhere here but they were hit and everything got destroyed. the small sports school to. look they were close and mattresses lying around my belongings also somewhere here . next to the bone down homes a makeshift memorial. many ganja residents come here to commemorate those killed in the attack certain people according to the authorities. they bring flowers and sign saying who they blame the army an army. to rest in peace gunja people may god bless you. the