tiffany: i decided not to apply for the supreme court when i started with judge tatel.ancially it was difficult. you do not make much as a clerk. brian: what do you make? tiffany: it starts about 65 and can go up to 75. to a lot of people that sounds like a lot of money, but i had a quarter million dollars in student loan debt. student loan companies do not care if you have this great clerkship. they want their payments. and all of my other life expenses were there. i decided that another year on that salary would not be sustainable. i was anxious to start working and, if i'm totally honest, i was convinced i would not get it and i hate rejection. i had convinced myself i'm not going to get that. judge tatel said, after we work together on our first opinion, he said he thought i was ready for that job. he asked me if i had my application materials ready and i said no. he said go do that and then talk to me. my husband and others were very helpful. i mailed my application materials on january 13, which is the day my father died. i tried to take that day back and turn it