>> correct. >> sosnovske was there with taunja bennett, and taunja bennett was alive. >> sosnovske tellsd sosnovske both get in the car. >> john and taunja are in the back seat in the car. they're playfully fighting with one another. >> she slapped him. he slapped her. punched her, slapped her. and they were laughing. >> did it progress into something where there wasn't laughter any longer? >> yes. then it became serious, a serious argument. as we went further down the freeway, he said, "i'm going to take her." >> did he tell you that he was going to have sex with her? >> yes. >> you told us there was a point where john aid, "she's not going home." is that his words to the best of your memory? >> yes, it is. >> and they drive up to the columbia gorge. they get to vista house, crown point on the scenic highway. he tells laverne to pull into the parking area. >> he went to the trunk. and there was rope in there. he says, "i'm going to tie her up. it's more of a thrill this way." >> laverne says she gets out of the car and she goes to this stairwell, and taunja bennett is laying there in th