tavis: od evening. frolos angeles, i am tavis smiley. first up tonightaonversation with ard winning actress and comedienne trace ullman. she is ba wh new episodes of her acclaimedseries, "tracey ullm's sta of the union." also, a eview o what is coming up next week including a rare coersationith music icon prince. he isut now with a uniue 3 cd set called "lotus flower." hank you for joining us tonight. there e some in a things that wal-mart is looking forward to doing, likeelping ople live better, but moly building içó)ong committeesnd relationships. with your help, e best is yet toome. >> nationwidensurance proudly supports "tavis smiley. Ñitis and nationwide, working together to impve financial literacand the economic empowerment thacomes with it. >>♪ nationwide on your side ♪ >> and by contributions to your pbs station froviewers like you. thankou. captioning made possible by kcet public tevision] tavis: i am lghing already. look who isere. loowho is re, traceyllman is ck on therogram. e seven-time emmy-winnin actrs and comedian is ba

tavis: i'm tavis smiley.n me next time for a conversation with blackstone group co-founder and former commerce secretary pete peterson. that's next time. we'll see you then. >> there are so many things that wal-mart is looking forward to doing. like helping people live better. but mostly we're looking forward to helping build stronger communities and relationships. because of your help, the best is yet to come. >> nationwide insurance proudly supports "tavis smiley." tavis and nationwide insurance. working to improve financial literacy and the economic empowerment that comes with it. >> ♪ nationwide is on your side ♪ >> and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. >> we are pbs.

tavis: good evening. from los angeles, i am tavis smiley. first up tonight, a conversation with award winning actress and comedienne tracey ullman. she is back with new episodes of her acclaimed series, "tracey ullman's state of the union." also, a preview of what is coming up next week, including a rare conversation with music icon prince. he is out now with a unique 3 cd set called "lotus flower." thank you for joining us tonight. >> there are some in a things that wal-mart is looking forward to doing, like helping people live better, but mostly building içóáu)ong committees and relationships. with your help, the best is yet to come. >> nationwide insurance proudly supports "tavis smiley." Ñitavis and nationwide, working together to improve financial literacy and the economic empowerment that comes with it. >> ♪ nationwide is on your side ♪ >> and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. [captioning made possible by kcet public television] tavis: i am laughing already. look who is here. look who is here, trac

[captioning made possible by kcet public television] tavis: good evening, from los angeles, i am tavis smiley. first up tonight part two of our conversation with icon, prince. he's out with a new cd set called lotusflow3r. it's available at lotusflow3r.com. and the new project, bria valente, and kicks off with a tremendous cd called elixer. we are glad that you are joining us now. >> there are so many things walmart is looking forward, helping to build relationships. because with your help, the best is yet to come. >> nationwide proudly supports "tavis smiley." "tavis smiley" and nationwide. >> and by contributions from your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. tavis: welcome back, tonight two of our conversations with my man. prince. i am still holding these papers from last night. i didn't change clothes. but then neither did prince but he looks good all the time. >> actually i changed. this is double all the same. tavis is the one who didn't change. tavis: ok, if it works for you, it works for me. i have two of these. when we left i had these in my hand, talking of the song

tavis: he is funny. when he started telling me the back story when i saw the documentary, most of this thing bluegrass and country music. you do not think africa but i was so fascinated to learn about this instrument. >> it makes a lot of sense that the banjo came over on slave ships, i suppose. it was -- it lay dormant and morphed in the early 19th century. it became what it is. this round thing with the calfskin had and strings. a lot of entertainers started playing it on stage. it is a joyful instrument. it caught on and was played in appalachia. and the backwoods. it had its own time to nurture and developed a special sound that it has. >tavis: you got turned on to this instrument how? >> it was the 1960's. i was a teenager and i lived in orange county. the folk music craze had started. there was the kingston trio and pete seeger. a lot of that came through orange county. i fell in love with the banjo. i could not believe it. i watched them play. it was like watching a mystery. i bought a book, how t

tavis: good evening from los angeles, i'm tavis smiley. tonight a look at the 25th anniversary of the classic rock mockumentary "this is spinal tap." with original members christopher guest, harry shearer, and michael mckean. later this year m.g.m. is releasing a special 25th anniversary d.v.d. which will feature new material. the trio is kicking off a tour glad you've joined us for a about the u.s. auto industry and edie falco, coming up right now. >> there are so many things wal-mart is looking forward to helping us doing, like helping you live better. with your help the best is yet to come. >> nationwide insurance proudly supports tavis smiley. tavis and nationwide insurance, working to improve financial literacy and the economic empowerment that comes with it. >> ♪ nationwide is on your side ♪ >> and by contributions to your viewers like you. thank you. tavis: they're making me laugh already. ok. here we go. "this is spinal tap." christopher guest, harry shearer and michael mckean are the talented trio behind the classic rock 'n' roll

tavis: walk away. >> i'm used to that. tavis: how did it get to be spinal tap?answer to that. i'm going to cut to the chase. it sounded like the most painful possible experience imaginable and we thought that sums up this band's approach to music. tavis: that's all i wanted was an answer. i started with you and ended with up. could have just stayed with you. now, christopher, i'm going to ask you a question and you are going to give me a -- an answer, sir. >> i'll 2r50eu789 tavis: when this came out, there were a lot of people who didn't think this was fake. >> who didn't think it was fake in tavis: they thought it was a real documentary. >> well, so did we. imagine that as a rude awakening. it's an odd thing. very schizophrenic. michael and i started writing music together in 1967 and we'd played in a bunch of bands, done a tour and formed this group to make this movie, went out on the road and when you're playing as these guys you look out in the audience and you don't know really what people are thinking because we're playing music as opposed to actually the

tavis and nationwide insurance. working to improve financial literacy and the economic power that comes with it. >> and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. tavis: welcome larry king back to the program. for 25 years he has had one of the most unique jobs in television, as the host of "larry king live" and he is the founder of the larry king cardiac foundation. he has provided life-saving treatment. he has a new memoir, "m y remarkable journey." >> i may have been everywhere but this is my home. tavis: when you are in my audience or not near me, you are my favorite person in broadcasting. we need more people like you. -- tavis: it is my dream to sit in for larry king. >> you are terrific and this is a great spot for you to be. tavis: i enjoy being here on pbs. i was reading an article and in the article you said that you thought that charlie rose had one of the best jobs on television, and you explain why you felt this way. you think that he has a good on public broadcasting. >> t.

tavis: good evening, from los angeles. i'm tavis miley. tonight a conversation with civil rights advocate joan baez. she was the voice of a civil rights movement as she charged with dr. king. she had the march from selma to montgomery. she may famously sang "we shall overcome." to mark her 50th anniversary, glad you've joined us for a about the u.s. auto industry and edie falco, coming up right now. >> there are so many things wal-mart is looking forward to helping us doing, like helping you live better. with your help the best is yet to come. >> nationwide insurance proudly supports tavis smiley. tavis and nationwide insurance, working to improve financial lite >> and the contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. tavis: delighted, honored just out of words to welcome joan baez, the iconic artist is called the queen of folk music. her career has spanned 50 years. she's a tireless humanitarian and civil rights activist who worked with dr. king. she's out with her latest c.d. it's called "day after tomorrow." before

tavis: how did your ego handle that?>> great because i kept telling myself, you know, you want to make people happy. they were all happy and i was happy they were happy and i got a chance to learn so much more about life, you know. i still wrote, but my songs were like turned down after that because we had a friday meeting -- tavis: before you tell this story, i wanted to go there. you read my mind. i want to preface this before you tell this story. i was in new york a few weeks ago. i stay in the same hotel all the time, at a particular hotel, i asked where they were performing for a few nights. i went down stairs and bought some tickets to see nick and val and i sat in the audience and enjoyed the show. at a certain point in the show when they start singing the string of hits that they wrote for many of the motown artists, they tell the story of how they got into motown with berry gordy. you want to hear a story, nick can tell the story of the first time he went to motown and sat around this table for the friday meetin

tavis: good evening from los angeles. i've tavis smiley. tonight a conversation with the legendary founder of mow tone berry gordy he borrowed $800 from his family and started a small record label in detroit. that little record label would become one of successful pieces in motown. the label has just released a 10-disc set that highlights motown's rare glad you've joined us for a about the u.s. auto industry and edie falco, coming up right now. >> there are so many things wal-mart is looking forward to helping us doing, like helping you live better. with your help the best is yet to come. >> nationwide insurance proudly supports tavis smiley. tavis and nationwide insurance, working to improve financial lite to improve financial literacy. and by contributions by your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. [captioning made possible by kcet public television] tavis: i'm beyond pleased tonight. i'm on in order and humbled and whatever else i can be to welcome berry gordy to this program. 50 years ago this month he started a small record

tavis and nationwide insurance. working to improve financial literacy and the economic empowerment that comes with it. >> nationwide is on your side. >> and by contributions to your pbs station by viewers like you. thank you. >> [singing] ♪ we are going to see the king ♪ we are going to see the king >>> i love you, my brother. i celebrate your life and i am glad i had the chance to know you. >♪ i thought you would go and come ♪ >> to the outside world michael was a genius. with his unchallenged ability. to the people who were lucky enough to know him personally, he was caring and funny, honest, pure, non-jaded and he was a lover of life. ♪ call my name and i'll be there ♪ >> the more i think and talk about michael jackson, i feel the king of pop is not big enough for him. i think he is simply -- i think he is simply the greatest entertainer that ever lived. [applause] ♪ [applause] >> scenes from earlier today in los angeles at the memorial service honoring the life and legacy of michael jackson. as a kid, i had a sp

tavis: with the parents. pursuintheir dream in america you meioned andyou were right aut this, it is at makes motown so greatnd what we cebrate motown this year. iwas thinking michael died at . this is mown's 50th year. i am glad to have you bk. motown had some innate genius is. stevi and marti these cats are geniuses. her than beinso yng, what do u think was michael's geniu >> he was a different kind of genius. micel was a thinker. he did mre research than any of the aists i ha mentioned. he w a researcher. he researched me. rearched a thereat peop came beforehim. he wanted t meethe stars and ended up meeting so manof them. at ninth, he was researcng and looking a studying -- at ni he was researching and oking in studyin geniuses are geuses. when michael lar in fe because he waa genius and because he had thoughts that were above everybody's, he would think how to promote himself. michael was in charge of most of his life. cause he w that smart. evenhough iwas at one. the nager he wanted to do somethin he kne

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tavis: both probably? >> i think so.is: how are we doing under the obama administration with intelligence? what is the chief failure, that we did not get the intel correct. how are we doing on at the intelligence? >> he says we are worried that we still did not have great interrogators. he is setting up something that sounds almost like the manhattan project for interrogation. they are going to get the best homicide detectives in the country and they're going to get people from the fbi, the cia, the military, linguists who speak the languages, cultural experts, and try to put together this brain trust to interrogate terrorists. he is on it. i do not think they have accomplished all they want to yet. tavis: how does the troop drawdown in iraq impact this? >> i do not have a crystal ball. you just hope for the best. but obviously, any sort of failed states around the world, if iraq becomes unstable, is a problem for terrorism. tavis: another question that may require a crystal ball which you said you just do not have, what

[captioning made possible by kcet public television] tavis: good evening. i'm tavis smiley. first up tonight, the state of health care in the u.s. and dr. michael roizen from the cleveland clinic. it is hell up as a model for what a health provider should look like. he's at the forefront of efforts to support healthy lifestyles. also tonight, a conversation with a legendary figure in business. peter peterson. he went on to serve in a number of key positions, including secretary of commerce. his memoirs, the -- coming up right now. tavis: dr. michael roizen from the cleveland clinic. he's also a best selling author who has cowritten a series of books. he joins us tonight. it is nice to have you on the program, sir. >> privilege, tavis. tavis: let me start by asking this question, how hopeful you are about the conversation we're having right now around health care in america. as you know, we tried this before. >> if we really focus on health care and not just illness care and if we focus on more than just access, access is important, but if we focus on more than just access, i

scroff tavis: good evening from los angeles, i'm tavis smiley. tonight, a conversation with a music legends, carlos santana. yesterday the rock 'n' roll hall of famer announced a two-year, 72-show residency at the hard roam hotel, where else, las vegas, that kick off in may. the show is called "supernatural santana." a trip through the hits. tonight in his first conversation since that announcements, we'll find out about the plans he's making, including his desire to become an ordained minister. we're gla tremendous cd called elixer. we arglad that you are joining us now. >> there are so many things walmart is lookin by donating t that address community concerns. >> nationwide insurance proudly supports tavis smiley. tavis and nationwide insurance. working to improve financial literacy and the economic empowerment that comes with it. ♪ nationwide is on your side ♪ >> and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. [captioning made possible by kcet public television] tavis: pleased to welcome carlos santana backo this pr

tavis: the grammy winner is out with a new album. he is getting set for an ambitious world tour that takes him through the u.s. and asisi europe and australia. we will celebrate the 50th anniversary of motown. he was part of the tradition as a solo glad you've joined us for a about the u.s. auto industry and edie falco, coming up right now. >> there are so many things wal-mart is looking forward to helping us doing, like helping you live better. with your help the best is yet to come. >> nationwide insurance proudly supports tavis smiley. tavis and nationwide insurance, working to improve financial litey and the economic empowerment that comes with it. qu>> nationwide is on your side. >> and by contributions to your pbs station by viewers like you. thank you. [captioning made possible by kcet public television] tavis: i am pleased to welcome lionel richie this program. he has a latest project called "just go" and is planning a major tour that stops on four continents. all this year he will be celebrating motown's 50th anniversary. he

tavis: i am tavis smiley.me next time for a look at the memorial service -- join me next time for a look at the memorial service for michael jackson and my conversation with berry gordy. >> there are so many things that wal-mart is looking forward to doing, like helping people live better. but mostly, we're helping build stronger communities and relationships. because with your help, the best is yet to come. >> nationwide insurance proudly supports "tavis smiley." tavis and nationwide, working together to improve financial literacy and the economic empowerment that comes with it. >> ♪ nationwide is on your side ♪ >> and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. [captioning made possible by kcet public television] captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org--

tavis: good eving from los anles, i'm tavis smiley. tonight a look at the 25t anniversary of the cassic rock mockumentary "this is spinal tap." th original members christophe guest, hay shear, and michael mckean. lar this yer m.g.m is releasing a spcial 25th anniveary d.v.d whichwill feature new matrial. the tro iskickingoff a tour glad you've oined u for a about th u.s. auto industry and edi falco, cong up right now. >> there are so man things wal-mart islooking forwardto heping us doing, like elping yolive better. withour help the best isyet to cme. >> nationwide insurance prouly supports tavis sley. tavisnd nationwide isurance, working t improve inancial literacy ad the economi empoweent that comes with it. >>♪ nationwide is on your side ♪ >> and by contributions to your viewers like you. thanyou. tavis: they're king me laugh ready. ok. he we o. "this is spinatap." christopheguest, harry shrer and michael ckean are the talented rio behind the claic rock 'n' roll mockumentary. on the occasi of th 2 ath anniverry re-release of their f

tavis: are you getting phone calls? >> i spent most of my career telling ladies do not call me daddy. harlow came along and they started calling me grandpa. mine is you can call me daddy. in this case, this has done a great deal. here is suzanne and she says we want you to take your shirt and shoes off. this could be the make or breaking of a career. it came out fantastic. tavis: it is a beautiful issue. >> i fell in love with it. she is fast and knows what she wants. i was happy she left my pants on. annie will have you in some situations. tavis: let's talk about the director. >> this album, i have done a lot of albums. this particular album, we're trying to figure out how do we approach this? the ankle was simple. -- angle was simple. if i have to -- i do not have to provide can write a song. we have so many great writers. akon and these wonderful people who are involved and i say -- all these guys, i am thinking, what i am going to do is have meetings with these guys at here is my question. -- and here's my question.

tavis: that's amazing.ow did you go from hearing him that first time at 16 to befriending him, to working with him, to marching with him, at one point driving him? how did all that happen? >> i cannot remember the very beginning of it. but i know as he moved along, the institute for the study of nonviolence. and dr. king and his folks knew that they could come there to kind of build up their nonviolence argsnal in a sense, and get the support from us. and at the same time, dr. king began calling on me to go where he felt i was needed as an advocate of his movement. and i understood and he understood and i heard him say that the black movement without including the whites wasn't worth it. was not going to work. so there was nothing better for me to support than that. a lot of things about king people don't know. he and obama are the most laid back people i've seen -- i haven't met obama. they draw this tremendous strength they have inside. i know that king used to pray -- i mean, he was confronted with anoth

tavis is the one who didn't chan. tavis: ok, i it works for you, it works for me i ha two of these. when we left i had these in my hand, talkinof the song lycs of his new cd, lotusflow3r, three cd's, minneapolis soun elix and tusflow3r. and this is avlable at lolow3r.com. we taed about dreame i didn't get to the other the, cai ask about lonized mind? >> yeah, thathas to with the state the union right now. the state of the ion for all of us, not just black or white, buall of us. yesterday spoke a little about hoi was raised. and myfather, he was a very strong individual who demaed a very high standard from . in everything. you saidsomething very interestg is that i could have turned out a mean person. i do have at side ofme. buwhat i y to do isto e best of my ability funnel it back into e music. larry aham is a dear friend ofmine, and want to say what's up to him and tina. i will be home shortly,but i am having a lot of fun ouhere though. i just nted to say something, larrhas volate side to m too. he told me a story on, lay, i just got to tell this. e time larry and freddie from sly

tavis: do you know what?ould believe that except for the fact that you do not sleep. >> it journalist, advocate, insomniac. tavis: the world's greatest musician, and sunday at. -- in insomniac. >> i watch your show every single chance i get. joni mitchell. tavis: i am glad that you said that. i did not tell you this story. one day when you were on before, i was around town somewhere. we have promoted that you would come on the next night. i walked past a group of people and i overheard them talking about the fact that you would be on the show with the next night. they were asking, why would prince go on pbs? prince watches everything, including pbs. >> you have been an advocate and i learned a lot from the state of the black union when you sent it to me. i try to check it out when i can. that said, dick gregory, one time i saw him on here. it moved me so much that i put down the paper. i owe him money now. tavis: i want to talk about the song "dreamer" that you dedicated. i will come back to that because you

tavis: that is a great story. you are moved by the documents, you look up, how do you end up owning this? >> i read that a copy of the declaration was auctioned off on television. my daughter, i have 14 year old twin daughters. one was going to school with a girl who had a dad who ran sotheby's. i read about this and i call him. he says, it is in my showroom. my associate is with me, and we walk down to the sotheby's and we walk in and it's on an easel. i was about to cry. i saw a tear in her eye. this was, there may have been 200 printed on july 4, 1776. only 25 are left. the copies sent by horseback, read aloud. they were the announcement of revolution. the birth certificate of the country was that night. it may have been the one that everyone remembers, a fellow buying a picture frame because he liked the frame.@ @didn't know that behind the picture. tavis: i remember. >> was this document. it has been traveling since we bought it. tavis: why is it important to travel it. and how do you describe what it means t