how did i meet tavis? the publisher at the time a man named steven ruben had tavis under contract for an autobiography and i had written a book for steve, a big mogul business. he was president of colombia records during michael jackson days. in any event, ruben thought that tavis and i would be a good part and last year he and i did a book together and martin luther king, jr. t last year of his life and recently we worked together on the book of myia myiaaangelou. he appreciates what what i do and shows me great respect and also i love how he speaks and i love his voice and he's a good story teller, so it's been a great combination >> is the ghost writing business a big business that we don't know about? >> guest: the one area that we haven't talked about is deep ghost, which means you don't have your name on it. you touched upon it earlier. a deep ghost is a person who has ghost-written a book, typically politicians use a deep ghost, i don't know whether a majority of books written by politicians, but a

. >> tavis they get people into these apartments? >> perfect for a family across the river. a little city with a lot of charm. the smallest house in new jersey people were see if they could seize a we have blind. [laughter] it is more than enough for the family. >> reversed saw it we looked at as a joke and then we thought no crap we like it. there are so many little spaces every square inch is used. >> you even have a backyard. unbelievable. that shed is bigger. [laughter] we have a queen size bed. >> this skinnies house is still eight times bigger in the apartment in harlem. the from the storage space to the half bath and the twin size bedroom that is the attic they use every inch and a productive way. >> the little city with a lot of charm this city knows how to pack it into a small space. for now i live in the city their rent is too damn live but maybe because i love them or i am an idiot. ♪ >> of the campus of florida state university a senior at florida state and a two-way player she is one to watch. unfortunately with flags in the nfl. >> i grabbed the one person that

[laughter] >> the question is for those that do have the capability of north korea tavis 80 precis had it read not be an hour in and you never have we this is that our government may have the capability if needed. >> and what used to be have been of nuclear destruction. >> love we put your mind at ge. the head is a is the most cogent warrior in the world. can we do to the charities but in the event of an all-out much more, a cyberwar purge but mutually assured destruction. we have had the soviets kept an uneasy nuclear balance because we do a nuclear attack on the soviet you you'd. but remember we will then go immediately. had a few do who did it to put yourself in the situation room or in the president's place he says the tidies. the president says what tv is fake. what do you read you think? >> the chinese did it was a viewer from. >> the additional have said don state actors add those nine state actors but the chief scientist of that and assayed now retired 82 years old but sharp as the task. church. if the word ever goes out, launched it in one not come from ukraine or denmark >> i

tavis the only one that got hit. [laughter] they were there to give if the speech the president ducks twice standing next to the interpreter when he lunged forward he hit this deal are above the of aicher from it swung around and cop me right here. i have never felt that violence before in my life. it hurt so bad but the president was determined to finish which was a smart decision if the president turns out and does not stand strong that looks terrible so he made maliki said there i thought i had to get out of this room. of read polls be up we tried to get out of their room but now it is the currency because the iraqis tried to figure out who it was. everyone is blocking byway. he said i am dr. [laughter] he lets the of the president comes to find me he said i saw you crying but i thought it was because he threw a shoe at the. i adore you but i am tough for them that. i grew up in my all be. [laughter] i huddled on the floor id airforce wide media five hour flight. i curled up of the floor because everybody was slee

. >> we can find a clip from tavis smiley and i were having this conversation, that barack obama wouldhan not. >> he's not to be blamedin tirely about that. we live in an environment that doesn't want to engiven race and be open about it. the president in the midst of being attacked himself by racist bigots turned and and used his bully pulpit to lecture black people. he went to the congressional black caucus and told them to stop complains,y he went before the march on 50th anniversary and there he said black people have used their own situations as an excuse to cover criminality. >> let me push back a little bit with these two data pointsone, hopes were dashed to the, tent that his share of the black vote increased, i believe, in 2012 from 2008? >> it went down from 6 to -- 96 to 93. i remember seeing research from essentially the day president obama took office in which americans broadly were asked essentially do you think he's more favorable to black people than us, than other people? and that always scored very high. there were always -- there was always a big portion of while ame