tavis, building upon that on some level how bull markets go, right? people have fun over hear and then the main core of the market reprising to discount, plausible economic scenario. the market rotational since the election. banks working cyclicals working, responding to better than expected economic data. are you finding fault with any of that, seeing any potential hazards bubble up? >> not really. i mean, everything looks very goldilocks right now. the problem is, we know it doesn't stay this way for long. if we don't have a period of labor weakness nearby december of next year this will be the longest period of full employment in the u.s. since world war 2-year. generally what happens is either we will fall into a recession or things will overheat again and the fed will be forced to raise rates and cause a recession. it always ends the same way. so, yeah, i think everybody is playing a similar game which is momentum is strong. right now economy looks good. and i think at the -- the soonest sign of any weakness anywhere, you'll just end up getting a

tavis, and we've talked about this on your radio show.hink the vice president's campaign has done what they would argue an effective job of talking about race and other issues as president. the needle hasn't necessarily moved. i don't think, as much as they would like with those low propensity black men the question becomes why? i would argue it's because you're not speaking enough about economics and other opportunities. and if i were advising lebron, i think that would have been a more effective use of his platform. >> that's all i got to go on. >> if i was running for president, i'd like to hang out policy and i respect her because she's not a black man, though. >> we're going to commercial break coming up next, another financial paper it's warning of economic turmoil. if donald trump wins, we'll get to that economic conversation next you want analysis. >> we have questions how biden set the right off stayed awake. >> why did trump pull out of 60 minutes? >> i love pulling out this is a news network. have i got news for you saturday at

and let's all hate these people because maybe hate him what we need tavis smiley is here and he joins our fifth seat at the table. >> he is a nationally syndicated, legendary radio host and author of the covenant with black america 20 years later, tavis, what a way for this endorsement to land that video was not holding anything back, not mincing any words and he didn't say a word. yeah. it was really a lot of donald trump just donald trump what donald trump can hang himself with his own words. >> number one, number two let's recall it wasn't that long ago when somebody who told her to shut up and dribble i'm glad he rejected that advice. then i'm glad he's rejected that advice now these personalities, these celebrities, these stars have their own agency. they are indeed fellow citizens and i celebrate them speaking out. i'm not sure what it actually does. i'm not sure people vote a particular way because lebron said do this or do that. and i'm also concerned abby about whether or not this the string of celebrity endorsements plays into that narrative that kamala, kamala is an elitist

my frustration with tavis is he's national -- not as adamant of people following the way he does but embody it. in a police where there's soul searching taking place in the black community or social justice oriented circles following the victory of donald trump, maybe this is a moment in time somebody looks up and said maybe we should have listened to erec smith a little more on kind of what was going on. but yeah, i do want to make thie point, though, because we're talking in terms of the civil rights movement. in reality, the phrase civil rights, whale it certainly can apply or be made to apply -- we could talk about questions of speech and reproductive rights and so force and african-american context and talk about affirmative action and a number of other points of policy. if you look at the issues and there was an argument to be said, even in the 1960's, the major issues with respect to civil rights, the major battles had been done with the voting rights act. what was left undone was winning the battle for economic justice in american rights. and there are two parts which focused