that _ debated taylor clinton and we know that he _ debated taylor clinton and we know that he reallyto very— know that he really struggles talking to very powerful- know that he really struggles . talking to very powerful women but especially _ talking to very powerful women but especially women - talking to very powerful women but especially women of - talking to very powerful women| but especially women of colour. abel, _ but especially women of colour. abel, before _ but especially women of colour. abel, before we _ but especially women of colour. abel, before we talk _ but especially women of colour. abel, before we talk about - but especially women of colour. abel, before we talk about the. abel, before we talk about the excitement that there must be on the democrat side about what their candidate did last night, it's worth reminding and tempering that optimism, because if you think back to 2016, hillary clinton performed well in all those debates and still lost the election, so it does not necessarily translate that if you perform well on a night like this, the voters are liste

momentum like oprah's endorsement of barack obama over hillary clinton and george clooney's op-ed encouraging president biden to leave the race. taylor swift, now potentially the most influential childless cat lady of 2024. >> and, lester, the swift effect already having an impact. that voter registration site that

>> no, she cannot and she can't win it with oprah winfrey or taylor swift or any of the celebrities like hillary clintononvince voters. what convinces voters? how well you are off today compared to four years ago and if you look at median income which came out a few days ago from the census bureau, median income this went up under donald trump and down under president biden. americans are not stupid. they know that that is what matters to them and trump was out yesterday talking about his economic policy and manufacturing. manufacturing has gone down under president biden. he talks a big game. it hasn't resulted in anything but donald trump was the one that turned our country onto the idea that too many jobs were going overseas. they were excited about the transpacific partnership, nafta, all these things as millions of jobs went out of the country, donald trump stopped that, talked about it, changed the story on trade agreements and we are protecting american workers. that was a seachange and he did that. stuart: you think harris loses? >> i'm beginning to think she's going to lose. the polling if you

i mean, that's the biggest criticism of the hillary clinton rates as much as i love madam secretary what taylory talked about, what she didn't lean into the fact that kamala harris is going to be the first female president of the united states stay. she didn't lean into the fact that she's going to be the first black female president, et cetera, et cetera. she talked about the issues that matter to her substantively about things like reproductive rights in those freedoms. and so i think that gave we're in such a permission structure is a, as a, as a community, as voters. i think it gave other women they'll permission to say, look, you know what, i'm standing on these issues. i'm standing on them loudly and proudly the same way taylor swift did, you know a long time ago in a galaxy far away, i wrote a book called the power on the glitter, which is a history of the relationship he's been hollywood and politics going back to the 20s. and what i concluded was the main value that celebrities know it was about louis mayor in and herbert hoover but what celebrities do, most of all is expand your commu

momentum like oprah's endorsement of barack obama over hillary clinton and george clooney's op-ed encouraging president biden to leave the race. taylor, now potentially the most influential childless cat lady of 2024. >> and, lester, the swift effect already having an impact. that voter registration site that she pushed, by 2:00 p.m. it saw more than 330,000 visitors specifically from the link that she created. >> okay, savannah sellers, thank you. >>> coming up, once upon a time from outer space to earth, a good news story next. it crushed my confidence. it kept me in the shadows. but no longer will psoriasis get a piece of me. with bimzelx, i can't wait to say, i'm back. i'm back. i'm back. i can love my skin again. only bimzelx targets and blocks il-17a plus f to calm inflammation. i can control my plaques and start getting myself back bimzelx helps adults with moderate to severe psoriasis control plaques, to deliver clearer skin fast for results that last. i will give myself back the freedom of shorts. dare to wear black again, from head to toe. most people got 100% clear skin. some after the first dose. serious side effects, inc

clinton debated a donald trump and one she still lost the election. so it's, it's totally unclear if this really will have a major impact this debate last night. maybe of the endorsement of taylor swift will be more important than kind of the harris victory. and do you think that the most is a learned anything from this debate about either of the candidates that they didn't before, but i didn't know before by the way they learned that donald trump is donald trump and that he didn't change. he repeated his lies. he kind of is putting out this and to use he's talking about millions of migrants coming into this country and he was talking about haitian migraines, eating cats, and dogs and ohio. he could easily triggered by tamela harris. so in that regard, there's hardly any news about donald trump, but of course we've come with harris. this is different. she showed that she is really able to learn quickly. she was clear, she was on message. she didn't get called on her favorite, famous kind of word salad. she really finished her sentences. and you know, she was able to walk this fine line as a woman to come across as really strong and powerful without being kind of bitchy or whate

who was a senior advisor for hillary clinton's 2016 presidential campaign as you look at this endorsement and the trump campaign is kind of been bracing for taylor swift to do this for months now and she was complaining about a.i. generated images saying she she was supporting trump, which obviously she's not obviously she's not but it raises that's the bigger question of what does a celebrity endorsement mean? obviously, hillary clinton had a lot of them. she did not ultimately win the election. it didn't necessarily help with voters and wisconsin. but when you look at this and you look at taylor swift, what's your assessment of what the impact could be? >> so i think there's two things. number one, it can draw attention for people who maybe aren't paying attention to it an election, they say, oh, beyond say or jay-z, did this, or taylor swift said that maybe it gets the eyeballs on just paying attention to the election. but you do have seen backlash when celebrity say who to vote for i did some research in 2017 and there were some younger voters who said, i don't need jc telling me who to vote for. >> but what they do appreciate is and i think

clinton. if to put the blame on those white women voters but it's funny because in taylor swift and lynn clarkould be jumping for joy. they created fake ai images of taylor swift and endorsing donald trump which is what led her to step out there and say, no, let me clear the record really quick, especially after the vice president, for lack of a better term, wiped her -- with donald trump on the debate stage. >> it's very true, i mean the reality is, the cultural impact of women's basketball just ratcheted up in the last year or so, suddenly people are being attended to the wnba and culturally, angel reese is more of the culture as far as black culture is concerned. it is interesting, it does set her up in a way. is she political? has she made any of these noises about who she supports? >> they were asking her if she watched the debates. do you know what is going on? she said, i am not exactly political but i'm sure she is very aware. you know this is a black woman. she is going to get a different type of heat no matter what she says. if she endorses, harris, she couldn't please those who said

clinton enjoyed in 2016, it didn't help her win. i am wondering whether there is a distinction of someone with taylor swift's fame and global reach. >eful as far as cozying up to hollywood and other performers but i think taylor swift is in her own category, something the harris campaign loves and will be touting. a lot of these hollywood endorsements are whatever. this one is not whatever. neil: i wonder where you see the race. it's about trying to win over the other side voters and whether the debate did that. it caught donald trump off guard. whether you like him or her or vice versa, she was ready, he was not. she took the battle to him and he took the bait and therein lies what was a bad debate for her. now it becomes, should there be another debate? >> the details have to be ironed out, she laid the debate out. how many trump rallies has harris been to that she can say people are leaving out of boredom, that was completely false but it was a trump trick that played on trump and it worked. remember, everybody reacts to the week's news and the day's news trump over performed in 2016, over performed the polls in 2020. you can't c

clinton. >> and right now this election is so weird. the economy, inflation still at the very, very top of voter's minds and taylor swift didn't address thatnows that a kamala harris environment would be horrible for her working class fans who basically had to file for bankruptcy after going and seeing her shows. she has a right to endorse whom ever she wants. i don't think it makes a big difference. if kamala harris is elected, nancy pelosi will get the credit first, taylor swift probably second. and she'll elbow george clooney out of the way. we're so focused on cat ladies and eating cats and taylor swift holding a cat we've lost the plot. 75% of americans say it is on the wrong track. neil: well, and the polls are tight. so i don't know how it sorts out. we do know this, that taylor swift is one thing, but if adele committed to a candidate that i think, and i think you both readily agree would change everything. but what is it about celebrities? i do remember in the case of hillary clinton, no besmirchment, they would help fill a stadium for her. donald trump could do that alone. ronald reagan was able to do that kind of stuff alone. ba

but to nia's point, taylor swift and a celebrities like her, like beyonce, move people, they influenced people in a way that those endorsements hillary clinton got in 2016, those celebrities didn't. i went and i checked to see how many followers beyonce has, because i know that a lot of us are wondering if she is going to also endorse prior to november, she has more than 300 million more than taylor swift. >> these move economies. yeah. >> i do think this could spark some vigorous kitchen table discussions between republican politicians and their daughters about what's going on here. >> are republican voters, right? >> and the its also, who knows what this really means, but if they can can get more people to register, to vote, more younger people to go vote for the vice president. that's a win. i do think it also shows the staying power of that cat lady comments hi can we show you the control room? can kill me, but you have cats on your part of a coincidence. >> but i figured, well, but i figured no cats. well, there's a lot about cats, but i do i said betty from the beginning, this was going to be a bigger problem. than people thought it wi

taylor swift. we are seeing a significant increase in legislation. hillary clinton filled with entertainment endorsements, had trump with her in the final days of the campaign and they didn't help. in 2020 because it was a covert election, it was much less important. now i think the taylor swift endorsement is significant. we ask the question who would have a bigger impact on your vote, donald trump, joe biden or taylor swift, one out of three voters under age 30 chose taylor swift. so she does matter. and then young, female voters it turns out are just going to elect harris, but democrats up and down the ticket. they are much more likely to be voters and much more likely to vote straight democratic and any other major segment of the population in terms of gender. fifth are latinos, hispanics, representing about 20% of the electorate and particularly important in nevada, arizona. significant all across the country but in those states, they really do make the difference and they've been trending republican over the last decade and i think that trump has a chance to c

taylor swift. we are seeing a significant increase in legislation. hillary clinton filled with entertainment endorsements, had trump with her in the final days of the campaign and they didn't help. in 2020 because it was a covert election, it was much less important. now i think the taylor swift endorsement is significant. we ask the question who would have a bigger impact on your vote, donald trump, joe biden or taylor swift, one out of three voters under age 30 chose taylor swift. so she does matter. and then young, female voters it turns out are just going to elect harris, but democrats up and down the ticket. they are much more likely to be voters and much more likely to vote straight democratic and any other major segment of the population in terms of gender. fifth are latinos, hispanics, representing about 20% of the electorate and particularly important in nevada, arizona. significant all across the country but in those states, they really do make the difference and they've been trending republican over the last decade and i think that trump has a chance to c

taylor swift's endorsement. well, i'm sure trump has gotten some big-name musicians to endorse him. oh, no! [ light laughter ] barack obama and hillary clintono host separate fundraisers on friday for vice president kamala harris, with obama's event in the evening and clinton's in the afternoon. and in an attempt to win harris the senior vote, joe biden will host an event at 5:00 in the morning. [ laughter ] "folks, folks, here's the deal, i've been up since 3:30. i got up to pee, never went back." [ light laughter ] former president trump held a rally today on long island at the nassau coliseum, and just like every stadium show held on long island, he ended with "piano man." that's just the law out there. house speaker mike johnson yesterday criticized vice president kamala harris' economic plan, and said it includes centralized price controls, new government spending programs and car giveaways, adding, quote, "it's like oprah is running for president." are you trying to win this for her? [ light laughter ] her ideas are like oprah, her personality is that of tom hanks, and no offense, her singing voice is barely as good as adele's. [ light

clinton was speaking to hollywood and the liberals. and they think you see that now how and when democrats give her excited about taylor swift and writing press releases in her songs and like having oprah last night with zero content, but just feel good vibes. vibes will not win the election for her. there's a reason why donald trump is still winning in these key states and it's because he knows how to talk to americans right where they are not what's on their tv. >> if he can get their vote out to be fair, a lot of people thought fight song was bad. go ahead bill. >> i decided to take a break from politics. i real had enough politics than i was due this data newsletter comes out and saturdays. and i was looking at baseball has been a big week for baseball show. shohei ohtani comes into this game last night and he said he 48 home runs and 48 steals and he begets are 49 steals. it gets to 51, 51. first one ever to do it. at the same time, the chicago white sox are on the brink of losing more games than anyone else has ever lost in history of april, i went and looked at it. shohei ohtani for every home run he's hit the entire chicago whit

clinton had a lot of them. she did not ultimately win the election. it didn't necessarily help with voters in wisconsin. but when you look at this and you look at taylor swift, what's your assessment of what the impact could be? >> so i think there's two things. number one, it can draw attention for people who maybe aren't paying attention and to an election, they say, oh, beyonce or jay-z did this or taylor swift said that maybe it gets the eyeballs on just paying attention to the election. but you do have seen backlash when celebrity say, who to vote for i did some research in 2017 and there were some younger voters who said, i don't need jc telling me you who to vote for. but what they do appreciate it. and i think taylor swift did it masterfully. she's an i did my research. this is the person that i think is right for me and my values. you should do your research, right? and so she made it open to, you, do what's right for you? i'm going to do what's right for me. but we broke, but let's vote that's the piece that consistently in research, people are open to having celebrities help remind them how important it is to vote. so it's more in how they

clinton, listening to bruce springsteen. the night before the election, that didn't work out. taylorpecially doing it now, early voting beginning, but there's still time to register to vote, that could have an impact. >> yeah. it's funny to hear donald trump say it is going to hurt her in the marketplace. >> pretty sure not. >> she might sell out wembley nine times instead of ten. >>> in washington, house speaker mike johnson pulled a government funding bill off the house floor just hours before its scheduled vote yesterday. the move came as several house republicans vowed to tank it. congress has about two weeks to pass government funding to avoid a shutdown. let's bring in capitol hill correspondent for nbc, ali vitali. what happened here? >> reporter: willie, as hard as it was for me to listen to you talk about taylor swift as a swiftie, wanting to jump in. >> start there. >> we will. that's the pain mike johnson is in now with his own conference. i have to tell you, he's once again in a position of being squeezed by members of his own party who don't like the plan he put forward

taylor swift's endorsement, perhaps influence the election at all? >> these celebrity endorsements tend not to influence elections in the united states. in 2016, hillary clinton received endorsements from huge celebrity names . people like jay—z, and names. people like jay—z, and she would go around campaigning and rallying with these big celebrity names, and they didn't really make an impact. so i think most people know that celebrities and kind of these big media figures are generally behind the democrats . hollywood behind the democrats. hollywood is a very liberal democrat focused industry, so i suspect that taylor swift's endorsement of kamala harris just after the debate won't be changing too many minds in america. >> okay, stephen edgington in the states for us this morning. thanks very much indeed. let's get the thoughts now from the chair of the republicans overseas, greg swenson, a regular on the channel. always good to see you, greg. you also been up all night. so thank you very much for coming in. great to see us in spite of actually, former president trump's seventh presidential debate, which is the highest number anyone has donein the highest nu