i'm saying when interests ther and the tazer used, the tazer will also be reviewed by the ois. >> and may i add the chair of the ois board can bring in whatever subject matter expert they need to, so members of the ec board or whatever board the subject matter expert can be brought to the ois review to give that expertise or lend that expertise to the process. >> commissioner hirsch: so my question is, does the language support the concept? [ inaudible ] >> commissioner hirsch: well, the dpa is saying we have to add their language in order for that to actually be spelled out in writing because it's not spelled out now, and if that's the case, i'm in favor of it. if it's already spelled out, that's all right. it's not ois, but your policy on tazers can say the ois -- >> i agree with the what dpa saying. in the ois there's nothing that says we're going to analyze tazers, as well, but i have a different issue. i'm just waiting to get called. >> president turman: okay. commissioner dejesus. >> commissioner dejesus: so i was here when the department of justice was talking to us, and housto

in order for the tazer to be used effectively, both darts need to make contact. that's what causes the muscle contraction. what this is saying you can use the drive stun mode to complete the circuit. >> it doesn't incapacitate. >> in that case, it does, because you've completed the circuit. if i use the tazer, and drive stun here, you will have muscle contraction, and that's what causes the incapacitation. >> president turman: okay. commissioners, any other comments? okay. just to get a general sense and a feeling for where people stand, can i see a show of hands of commissioners who

i agree on -- on the tazers. >> president turman: tazers have already been discussed. move on. >> we need -- we need better. we need better. i would like to see how many -- deaths from tazers are going to happen. >> president turman: sir. >> and i would like to compare that with the number of deaths that we have when we had the keratoid procedure. we have made a -- we have made a mistake. thank you. >> president turman: thank you. any further public comment? okay. seeing none, public comment is now closed. secretary kilshaw. >> clerk: adjournment. >> president turman: it comes about an hour and a half earlier than i anticipated. >> i move to adjourn. >> second. >> president turman: all in favor? thank you, ladies and gentlemen. this meeting is now adjourned. >> ok, i'm going to hop around like this, it is cold in here. that's dirt. this is a ground breaking. there is a big banner and if you've been involved in the project, you know that the banner has been up for a long time. it says the future of the neighborhood starts here. at long, long, long, long, long last, the

i agree on -- on the tazers. >> president turman: tazers have already been discussed. move on. >> we need -- we need better. we need better. i would like to see how many -- deaths from tazers are going to happen. >> president turman: sir. >> and i would like to compare that with the number of deaths that we have when we had the keratoid procedure. we have made a -- we have made a mistake. thank you. >> president turman: thank you. any further public comment? okay. seeing none, public comment is now closed. secretary kilshaw. >> clerk: adjournment. >> president turman: it comes about an hour and a half earlier than i anticipated. >> i move to adjourn. >> second. >> president turman: all in favor? thank you, ladies and gentlemen. this meeting is now adjourned. >> they tend to come up here and drive right up to the vehicle and in and out of their car and into the victim's vehicle, i would say from 10-15 seconds is all it takes to break into a car and they're gone. yeah, we get a lot of break-ins in the area. we try to -- >> i just want to say goodbye. thank you. >> someti

the individual suffered injuries and ultimately died, so i would ask on the dpa's position that the tazer not be used as a pain compliance device. >> president turman: thank you. >> i could agree with that. >> president turman: thank you. so is there a reason -- >> no, she can't. >> oh . >> president turman: i said you or him. okay. >> just a quick question for director henderson. i heard there was sort of a compromise situation that the dpa was offering. >> president turman: i was hoping i'd hear. >> oh . >> i just read. >> it was the inconsistency -- actually, if i could just have samara speak to it, 'cause she knows where it was, otherwise, i could argue it. >> i would just like to add to director henderson's comments, if you like on page six under prohibited use, the department specifically says that tazers are -- and if you look at number six, they're prohibited as a pain compliance technique. so i want to point out that there is this internal conflict because on the one hand, officers told that they cannot use it as a pain compliance technique, yet our discussion right now is how to

. >>> indebate over tazers continues to be a hot button issues in san francisco. this time it's about a ballot measure that will go before voters in june. alissa, harrington is live where some supporters of proposition 8 are out trying to get votes. alissa? >> reporter: that's right. well, san francisco voters in june will decide whether to overturn with a less restrictive policy pushed by the police union. either way officers will be equipped with tacesers startingt the end of the year. they canvassed the west portal neighborhood, handed out fliers and talked to residents. they're hoping to drum up support for proposition 8, which would also institute a policy that could not be changed again without another vote. the police commission just adopted its own policy back in march. i spoke with a sergeant who patrols the bay view. she said prop 8 would protect the city. but one outspoken advocate calls the tools dangerous. >> as a female officer i want every tool at my disposal so i can go home. and if having this taser means i can do my job safely then that's what i

dejesus: point of clarification, i think the bar association was worried that everyone would have tazers. police on horses, police on motorcycles, everyone was going to have an iad. the question was, if it's foreseeable, can they request a squad car with an iad, that's another little sentence that they're going to have because there's a lot of officers -- >> i think when we discussed this, we said that when this happens, the officer will call on a supervisor, and they will be bringing one because the fact is you can never foresee that you're going to use -- and if you're on a bicycle, you're never going to be carrying one. >> commissioner dejesus: let me just say something. we used to say the same thing for a commissioner -- >> president turman: the clarifications are over. step back to the list. commissioner ong hing. >> commissioner ong hing: i'm not sure how you want to handle this issue that i want to raise, mr. president. it could be on another straw vote. i do want to revisit, either as an offering as an amendment or as digression into another straw vote, the special considerations

i spoke with an officer saying that tazers will keep them safe. i talked to a member who is concerned that they will use it on minorities, and the homeless and people with mental illness. >> we want tasers to help protect the citizens of the city. we are the only department that doesn't have tasers. >> the research on tasers show that police escalate rapidly from the use of taser and the gun. and they sometimes mistak it. >> police officers are equipped with batons, pepper spray and their guns. we did reach out but did not hear back at this time. abc7 news. >> thank you very much. the founder of burning man died following a stroke and a statement posted on the culture events website saying larry passed, away this morning at the age of 70. suffered a struck and the festival held in the nevada desert sorted in 1986 in baker beach and now tens of thousands of people will pay $1,200 to attend the gathering in the desert. when the burning man is set on fire. >> drivers face delays and detours after hitting a pole in berkeley. abc7 news at ashby avenue

. >>> indebate over tazers continues to be a hot button issues in san francisco. this time it's about a ballot measure that will go before voters in june. alissa, harrington is live where some supporters of proposition 8 are out trying to get votes. alissa? >> reporter: that's right. well, san francisco voters in june will decide whether to overturn with a less restrictive policy pushed by the police union. either way officers will be equipped with tacesers startingt the end of the year. they canvassed the west portal neighborhood, handed out fliers and talked to residents. they're hoping to drum up support for proposition 8, which would also institute a policy that could not be changed again without another vote. the police commission just adopted its own policy back in march. i spoke with a sergeant who patrols the bay view. she said prop 8 would protect the city. but one outspoken advocate calls the tools dangerous. >> as a female officer i want every tool at my disposal so i can go home. and if having this taser means i can do my job safely then that's what i

race or skin color and that's shameful the point is that there are very few out saturday nights as a tazer very very small you have you have people who have people in our community have it's not have i have written for these arenas where they are there where there are very few opportunities for those young people to be able to even be a to even have the courage to study in these arenas because they know that they're not even going to be considered for these opportunities we absolutely should not be trying to say that it should and should be quote prioritized we're not going to be excited or even what's holding our disgust around the brown people forgetting to give us the opportunities that at least make the most sense to fall towards us racial segregation circa one thousand nine hundred fifty five said certain positions certain duties certain functions could be assigned on the basis of race if we're doing that in two thousand and eighteen we might as well for get a national holiday for martin luther king. and there's another race control to see making headlines in the u.s. video of a schoo

in a model well let's look at it the point is that there are very few outside of the ninety's as a tazer very very small you have you have people who have people in our community have it's not that i have written for these arenas where there are those where there are very few opportunities for those young people to be able to even be a to even have the courage to study in these arenas because they know that they're not even going to be considered for these opportunities i'll tell you are too small for when you to when you have a very good and i started out as your it comes with a certain community that community would not be prioritized in the cultivating of our own arts is our art and we should be the terror takers we should be the people who are who are standing there and providing the access and overseeing that access of our art and we're not in that position we're not in those positions and on these levels nearly as much as we ought to be young and horse do you think that the museum should have that as a reason for that anticipated the public backlash at the very least do you think t

it goes everything from isis propaganda, all the way down to prominent people tazering rats, which iseird and unsavory. here we are, from a strategy perspective, the biggest competitor they had this television. television is heavily regulated. yet, here is youtube not regulated at all. even struggling to put in a cleanup plan that helps you for -- that helps them self regulate. that's where our story picks up. here they are having this gigantic mess. a highly profitable year, but what is the cleanup plan going to be? carol: we have more from reporter lucas shaw on youtube having its worst year ever. lucas: for the past year, maybe going to last march, youtube has dealt with some type of crisis. every couple of weeks, every month. more of a public relations in marketing perspective. just to be clear, the business of youtube has continued to grow place tot is the best reach someone between the age of 18 and 34, which is what most marketers want to do. what has been one of the greatest things about youtube, which has been democratizing force, anybody can upload a video, anybody can becom

s tazer initiative which stems to run around the police commission and proper channels, and also against scott wiener's attempt to override our zoning laws. he is someone who would be better advised to try to overturn the state's ban on commercial rent control than to stab san francisco in the back, but that's the nature of the weasel. it's -- the p.o.a.'s leadership -- no, i'm just going to use plain english here. it's unfortunate. i'm not going to make any excuses. the p.o.a. leadership is notorious towards dirty politics, it's extreme arrogance, denial and stonewalling. we know there are only a few bad incidents. but we don't know how many millions we spend to depend them, but the murder of mario williams and sean moore, you can read that article in the weekly last year, stemming from an inability to take on responsibility. they think we're different from everybody else in the world 'cause we never do anything wrong. why can't they do something for the community to try to help makeup for this kind of thing? why should the black community and everyone else continue to suffer the cruel

position on the tazer initiative, and the appointment of a p.o.a. consultant reflects his conflict of interest. we're here to ask you to adopt our demands. this means doing everything in your power to influence dhr to put the dog cops report demand on the table. thank you. >> supervisor kim: thank you. >> yes. my name is edwin wiataite, andm retired after 25 years at san francisco state university, public relations. i just want to address one thing. everyone else has spoken so eloquently about the issues in our communities that we live in in san francisco and to some of the other legal issues that have come up. but specifically, i understand that the p.o.a. has filed a lawsuit saying that the city has failed to meet and confer over the initiation of work rules that would address potentially lethal force. that is totally and apparently from the news untrue. there is a difference between the failure to meet and confer and the failure to come to agreement. and so the p.o.a. is changing the agreement. so i ask you to stay focused on the issues 234 what

consultant to the boa, third, beyond this perceived conflict, this mayor's recent endor endorsement of the tazer ballot initiative made him quite frankly the only elected official to take such position. now this position not only undermined our own sitting police chief, the police commission, and many other elected officials, let alone concerned citizens and community members, including myself. we are all vehemently opposed to proposition h, as it is shown that the mayor is opposed to show that he is on once again the wrong side of the issue. so ladies and gentlemen, this is going to be a fiery conversation. i hope you're in for a good time, and going to be with us for the long haul because this is an important conversation that we need to have publicly to ensure that there is transparency and sunshine on an issue that has an impact on people's every day life's particularly people of color that are adversely affected by law enforcement. thank you. but i have to remind you there is no applause in the chambers. if you like what you hear, just snap your fingers, but no thumbs. all right. we are her