office of internal oversight services investigating a tcc, a case that tcc, or the discipline and conduct unit investigated or even a human rights officer investigating it. but when it comes to u.n. staff, the conflict of interest is exacerbated and that will need to be addressed, along with, if i may, along with the problems inherent in the reporting lines themselves because there are multiple barriers to this information moving up the chain. >> the questions i think i would ask when asked the united nations come we don't have the right people here, what capacity do they build in countries where there are u.n. peacekeeping missions to be able to have the capacity to prosecute those who violate the laws in those on countries on sexual exploitation and abuse? that would be an interesting point is have united nations is helping the country be able to hold accountable those whot to violate these laws. >> or these employees need to be repatriated to their home countries as subject to prosecution at home. there needs to be prosecution either in country which is often a challenge or back,. >> f

what they do with the tccs, to watch their conduct. so it's not as just a matter of sending them home. it's a matter of making sure they don't do wrong when they're in the theater. that's a supervision responsibility which falls with the united nations. and yes, we want to take action against countries that are not responding correctly, but there should be accountability within the united nations itself. secondly, there needs to be certainly responsibility of the united nations to career -- to give clear direction to its civilian workforce as to what is expected. to give them adequate training, but to have adequate supervision. so again, so that the conduct is clearly understood and zero tolerance is clearly understood, and of course if there are violations there's accountability. accountability not only in removing those individuals, but holding them responsible for their actions. and that may very well require the united nations to have arrangements with its way that it employs its personnel to make sure that's accountability for the

too often, they get no response from the tcc. when that happens, if we do not know about it, or if another member state doesn't, it falls through the cracks. >> one of the issues raised is that there is no agency responsible just for this. is that the assessment of the panel that if we had a person in charge of just making sure that when there are allegations that troop contributing countries are taking action doll people responsible? would that help solve the problem? reportindependent panel in excruciating detail catalogs how information was diffused, fragmented, the bureaucratic inponse that so appalled us response the u.n. has appointed a person as a special envoy to deal with the issue of sexual exploitation and abuse and we welcome that appointment right we think that that will help provide a focal point within the u.n. said that there can never again be an excuse that the diffusion of responsibility allowed critical information and -- fall through the cracks to occur. we absolutely welcome that. >> has she taken any action

too often, they get no response from the tcc. when that happens, if we do not know about it, or if another member state doesn't, it falls through the cracks. >> one of the issues raised is that there is no agency responsible just for this. is that the assessment of the panel that if we had a person in charge of just making sure that when there are allegations that troop contributing countries are taking action doll people responsible? would that help solve the problem? >> the independent panel report in excruciating detail catalogs how information was diffused, fragmented, the bureaucratic response that so appalled us in response the u.n. has appointed a person as a special envoy to deal with the issue of sexual exploitation and abuse and we welcome that appointment right we think that that will help provide a focal point within the u.n. said that there can never again be an excuse that the diffusion of responsibility allowed critical information and -- fall through the cracks to occur. we absolutely welcome that. >> has she take

s office of internal oversight investigating at tcc, a case at tcc or the discipline and conduct unit investigating it or even a human rights officer investigating it. but when it comes to u.n. staff, that conflict is exacerbated and i think that to be addressed. along with her if i may, along with the problems inherent in the reporting lines themselves. because there are multiple barriers to information moving up the chain. >> the question i think i would ask, i know we don't have the right people here, what capacity to the field in countries where there are u.n. peacekeeping missions to be able to have the capacity to prosecute those who violate the law in those countries of sexual exploitation and abuse. that would be an interesting point to see how the united nations is hoping the country be able to hold accountable -- helping -- those violating these laws. >> of these employees need to be repatriated to their own country and need to be subject to prosecution at all. >> but for silly things -- for civilians and maybe even more complicated. >> correct. >> back to the pressure, mr.

even within the existing mous, the tccs have not abided by the agreed we will not tolerate that going forward. as long askson: ingse troops, many use sexual violence as a tool, if however, ifwn -- all of a sudden because of the initiative the u.s. takes, and all people accountable, will start serving punishment and time for rape and violence against women or whatever it might be, the world will get out really fast. the u.s. is the best at making agreements, putting words on paper. but not the very best at putting those words to working light. my point is that if we could get to some sort of status of forces agreement between countries that supply troops and the u.n., requiring the agreement, having must establish a force in 90 days, but that you will be liable and punished for rape, murder, or whatever capital felonies we want to include in their countless egregious of which, and then do an example of it, that withholding money are the two things that will get these guys' attention. we don't have anyone's attention right now. it is a frightening thing. gpoi, whichthat the is a vision

so, even within the existing mous, the tccs have not abided by that. , we will not tolerate that goingorward. senator isakson: as long as these troops, many using sexual violence as a tool of war, if deployed as a peacekeeper if they are known -- however, if all of a sudden because of the initiative the u.s. takes, and becauseace-loving take we start holding all people accountable, will start serving punishment and time for rape and violence against women or whatever it might be, the world d will get out really fast. the u.s. is the best at making agreements, putting words on paper. but not the very best at putting those words to working light. fe. so, my point is that if we could get to some sort of status of forces agreement between countries that supply troops and the u.n., requiring the agreement between them and the country they are deployed in, having a concrete, not you must establish a force in 90 days, but that you will be liable and punished for rape, murder, or whatever capital felonies we want to include in there, the most egregious of which, and then do an example of it, t

there is not one tcc it has deployed to a u.n. peacekeeping mission that doesn't have the ability to impose discipline -- >> we are agreeing with you. i think what chairman corker and ranking member cardin is saying is we want to help you. there is no excuse. if you just tell us who they are, what their excuses are, and then we will try to reinforce it because there is the power of the purse which the congress does have that can help focus their attention on issues we would like to see the work on. we thank you very much. >> just to clarify, this is been a very helpful exchange. if i understand ambassador coleman, the united nations can discipline a country that doesn't take appropriate steps by denying them the right to be a tcc. that has been done. the u.n. resolution speaks directly to that. the problem is they are non-responsive on npd, there doesn't appear to be any direct remedy that the united nations can take other than the peer pressure or public information made available. that's what i think we are looking for ways in w