but when i was 17 years old i was a replacement for a wonderful pianist and i performed the tchaikovsky piano concerto number one and i thought, wow. >> rose: and we conclude with arnie glipl cher, the legendary art dealer at the pace gallery. >> agnes martin was at the turn of the century. we had pop art happening and the end of abstract impressionism happening and the beginning of minimalism. many people call martin the beginning of minimalism, she's the end of abstract expressionism because there is brush work, there is a very sensitive application by hand. minimalism sought to get rid of all possible human marks on the canvas. >> rose: literature, music, and art when we continue. captioning sponsored by rose communications from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. >> rose: orhan pamuk is here, the nobel prize winning author of "my name is red," "snow" and the museum of innocence" has just had another novel translated into english. "silent house" was written in turkish almost three decades ago. it is set in the summer of 1980 in the leader of turkey's coup. fatima is v

a grade opera of tchaikovsky, and everything looked incredibly exciting, but suddenly he passed away1997, and he died in the same day as princess diana. that is september of 1997, and then some maybe two months later, there was a discussion with me if the next concert of world orchestra of peace would take place in germany and if i can become the conductor for this orchestra and then there were many, many visits, many continents which include, of course, china, russia, jerusalem, abu dubai, we also saw his great conductor next to each other, it is symbolic because nobody did more than master shulte and i could learn quite a lot, in my years in the beginning of my leadership in mariinsky's in st. petersburg, he was a great inspiration and patron and friend who supported me, especially in the belief i can stay in a difficult country and work with musical goals and i will always achieve what i want if i am focused and concentrated. >> stow made you believe that. has that turned out to be true. >> it did, in many, many ways. for example he knows that i represent big tradition, you don't