starting from glinka, the russian composure, he's famous all over the world, and then not only tchaikovskyut other famous composures also. >> rose: you ever transformed the mariinsky. you have, i think, given it a stature around the world because it's not just a conductor, it's more. it's representing an institution that you've built. >> first of all, the institution was hugely respected and was born first as a company in 1783. by the way, always there was a great one who changed everything. katherine th -- catherine the gt transformed the world's understanding of beauty because peter the great, the founder of the city, and then catherine the great, as a person who enlarged and brought even more power to this colossal city but also an exceptionally beautiful city, st. petersburg. so can you imagine in a short distance of 70, 75 years, maximum 80 years, from nothing, this city became one of the most beautiful, most powerful, one of the grandest, most accomplished. it looked and does feel like a wonderful ensemble. we artists and musicians try to achieve the many different elements but none