the house of representatives are very divided between the travel channel conservatives and the tea baggers who are really extremist and nearly i finally if i may just jump in for a moment forgive me for interrupting here but how can the u.s. repeatedly get away with raising the debt ceiling and why constructing yours and then was just just do the same. well because this is a stupid stick system that the united states as this has been in place since one thousand seventeen they raise the debt ceiling each year and they have done it four hundred and two times and under george w. bush they raised that eight times most countries don't run die governments that are way there when they the vote to project an expenditure then the they they finally unsetting it or by raising taxes or by having by borrowing by increasing the deficit but in the us congress people have to vote twice as they vote on the project and then they vote on the way to finance it they are going to tax those sort through borrowing or as the prefer some prefer to be lowering arder explained so it's always a mess let's talk about t

party in the head in the house it cannot control this very small group very important group of tea baggers and that's the reason why the is there is a stay at stalemate. and within the republican party and within congress as a whole watergate time delay a professor of economics at the university of montreal thank you. very much. well you with all three it's good to have a company today and still ahead of us our love of labor is hard working ethic is the driving force behind the country's economic success leaving western countries lagging behind. and from a russian orphanage to a golfing prodigy report on a young man's the latest challenge of trying to trace his siblings. rupert murdoch has made a public apology for the phone hacking scandal that he called serious wrongdoing by the news of the world he's a rapidly losing allies on both sides of the atlantic with his media empire crumbling on all sides but his are to use honest i see a truck in the reports from new york it seems there's still a strong market for tabloid speculation. sex drugs cheating and lies phony political scandal flashin

the tea bagger par key is just a bunch of racists and bagets with no clue. u wish for. gone in 2012. this from fran. the tea party is doing nothing to help anything. they think they know what is good for the american people, but what they want is their own way and the rest of american be dammed. wait, that sounds like congress, too. thank you for your comments. continue the conversation. facebook.com/car facebook.com/carolcnn. we will have more after this. i'm here in the downtown area where the crowd is growing. [ female announcer ] watching calories at breakfast never tasted this sweet... i'll go get my bowl. [ female announcer ] ...or this huge. new fiber one 80 calories. yes, you can actually love breakfast. vietnam, 1967. i got mine in iraq, 2003. u.s.a.a. auto insurance is often handed down from generation to generation, because it offers a superior level of protection and because u.s.a.a.'s commitment to serve the military, veterans, and their families is without equal. begin your legacy. get an auto insurance quote. u.s.a.a. we know what it means to s

this is what is causing these tea baggers to be so staunch.ost: elkhound, calif., on our line for republicans. caller: would not raising the debt ceiling be exactly the same as a balanced budget amendment? it would force them to redistribute the money appropriately. i think is the same thing. i don't think they should raise the debt ceiling. host: what do you think about the two-tiered approach? caller: if you don't raise the debt ceiling it will not make a difference. if you don't do something next year, the way politicians go, they will not do anything anyway. that is the way it always goes. host: pennsylvania, on our line for independence, go ahead caller: social security is self-funding and is not part of the debt problem it needs to be left alone. the two-tiered approach is a natural accounting principle. and one understands that. part of the problem is that the person who earns $50,000 or less in this country pays taxes on every single dollar. a person who earns $500,000 per year in this country pays taxes on 20% of their income. there i

. >> caller: i don't think if the tea bagger or wing nuts think you can't pay the bill without making a higher payment, i think thought ought to be drug tested. they are smoking something. i think at 68, the first year i did my taxes, we had a 10% surtax on the end. you pay 10% to pay for the war. you know, we put all of this stuff on a credit card. and sooner or later, the bill comes due. we got to pay more and pay more. that's it. grover norquist ain't running the country. that's it. >> host: ed, go ahead. >> caller: i think the democrats don't look at the debt clock and see that it's spinning at 100 miles per hour. it's no way in heck that the corporate tax on jets is going to pay more than what obama spent since january. it's not going to do nothing. by the way, there's nothing in the constitution that says that half of the people in the united states have to support the other half of the people that live here. they need to get off of their butts and get to work. >> host: you hear that guy in los angeles? >> caller: that guy in los angeles, you should have asked him what rate are