is that the way the tea partier.that the way that the tea partier thinks about it. >> i think that they're worried about deficit spending and i don't think that they have a problem with allowing americans to keep some of the money that they've earned. >> i know, i know that's rhetoric, though, but it does increase the deficit. >> well, i'm not so sure. you have such a trouble with unemployment and economic stagnation right now, it's not at all clear to me that the numbers make any sense. you're looking at raising taxes on everybody in january, and you can't possibly argue that that's going to have anything but a negative impact on growth and the revenue that growth produces. >> okay, so you believe, you seem to be saying, matt, here, that cutting the taxes or allowing the tax cut to continue for people who make over $250,000 a year is going to pay for itself in new government revenues? in other words, it's going to be one of these things where you lower the rates or keep the rates low, but more revenue comes in than

is that the way the tea partier thinks of it? >> i think they're worried about deficit spending.on't think they have a problem with allowing americans to keep some of the money they've earned. >> it's rhetoric. but it does increase the deficit. >> i'm not so sure. you have such a trouble with unemployment and economic stagnation right now. it's not at all clear to me that the numbers make any sense. you're looking at raising taxes on everybody in january. and you have can't possibly argue that that's going to have anything but a negative impact on growth and the revenue that growth produces. >> you seem to be saying that cutting the taxes or allowing the tax cut to continue for people who make over 250,000 a year will pay for itself in new government revenues. it will be one of these things where you lower the rates, but more revenue comes in than otherwise would come in. you believe in that process? you just said so. >> no, i'm arguing this is a spending problem. we've been spending our way into massive debt. >> so the taxing didn't bother you, adding to the deficit? >> i will s

romney today blasting the tax cut compromising saying it is a bad deal, an attempt to get the tea partiers. and now from the dallas tea party, romney is not winning him over. why not, phil? >>guest: i do agree with romney here were i believe that the compromise that is from president obama is a troa mistake for the republicans. he is right. it makes no sense for us to extend for a temporary basis the bush-era tax cuts to add $1 trillion more to the deficit. this is not what the tea party sent the republicans back to the house. >>neil: you agree with romney's message, what is the problem with romney? >>guest: well, personally, no problem, but the problem in the past is he has been slow jumping in to be a conservative and spends time sticking his toe in the warm to see if it is warm before he jumped in. the tea party is the every day average american working and paying the bills. we want conservative warriors people that are going to do the right thing, and damn the torpedoes and we do not see that where the new congress in january. >>neil: so when romney says that he is against this comprom

and i talked to a lot of tea partiers who are upset at republicans. are you?uest: at the ones that do not follow the desires of the people. >>neil: what are the desires? >>guest: we need lower taxes. less government. and we need to secure the borders. i could go on and on. >>neil: you like the governor of new jersey, right? >>guest: i voted for her. >>neil: for him. it has been a long day shopping, hasn't it. i feel the same way. but he is saying he has a lot of problems with the spending but i will hold my nose and support it. would you? >>guest: on some of the issues you probably have to, yes. it is too quick, too fast, it is a deep hole and you have to climb out slowly but you have to start climbing and it has to be done. i used to worry about my grandchild, and now i worry about my children, soon i will be worried about myself because of the economy. >>neil: guys, thank you very much, we will, one thing we try to look at, at the malls and public places, we will do this a lot more, a lot more next year, and it is a good way to get a gauge of what peop

what's your response to that you yourself are a tea partier are you saying that akin to trivial full. look i love the land back and i love what what my brother glenn back is doing he is basically honoring dr martin luther king and these people that that are going to attend this rally decent hardworking americans who love this country and they simply disagree with barack obama's socialist agenda i said well i don't think it's going to anything to do well you know with socialism i mean this is a man when you're on the steps of the of the lincoln memorial a man who was abraham lincoln who was murdered by the descendants of some of the same people who are marching to start a civil war hundred fifty years ago in my lifetime this man marched on and it was a terror by some of the same people who are marching today we're talking about a lot of time but when we when there are often. women are you talking about. the people that attend the tea party rallies talking about if you put them in a time machine half of them would probably chase martin luther king and shoot him again although you know i

similar members in the house remember this about john boehner though he was not a cheat he's not a tea partier he's embracing them right now but this guy is an old fashioned country club republican and i think now that the republicans have controlled one of the chambers there's sort of responsible for governor governing and he's going to look for some area to cut a deal is going to be on tax cuts possibly it doesn't look like it now but we don't know how these things works banner in the sense that he has control the house republicans are going to be more responsible for governing because the liberals the democrats can be saying mr boehner where the jobs you know you're on now it's their turn to start your start pointing finger you have a hand in this that they're going to be held accountable but what about is there going to be some tension i mean there has been in the past at least between boehner and counter they don't necessarily see eye to eye and like you said boehner is not a tea partier so are we going to start seeing this whole g.o.p. momentum start you know fraying falling apart i thin

it tends to be more visible on the right, and the republican party is it with the tea partiers. but every poll i see had every i talk with and kind of free floating focus group that i maintain around the country in terms of talking to people, i've never people so angry. you see, it's not i think a rocket scientist. when people are scared about losing their jobs or their homes or their savings, wind they are economically frustrated and anxious and insecure, there's a tendency to want to find somebody to blame. and the situations, and juicy historically in this country and also tragically in europe, the situations do breed the possibility for demagogues to come along and say, well, your problems really are related to them, or them, or them. the upsurge in anti-immigrant element to this country now i think is indirectly, or sometimes directly, related to the economic pressures people feel. the upsurge in anti-muslim sentiment, you know, the irony is that after 9/11 you could see the hatefulness that we are now seeing. you didn't see it after -- well, we could go on and on and on. y

if our tea partiers get going. come on up on my website, facebook, twitter, tell the democrats and republicans in congress to stop this. i think that the american people can be heard and we can stop it. >> sean: by the way, bob bennet of utah leaving, voinovich, leaving they appear willing to go along. bond of missouri on the appropriations committee. i got very angry today senator at some republicans. here jim demint gave an opportunity to make these tax cuts permanent. there were six republican senators, scott brown, susan collins, mark kirk, lisa murkowski, olympia snowe, george voinovich all voted against the demint will which would have allowed the tax cuts to be permanent. did they understand the electorate in this election? >> i don't know. obviously, we were able to achieve, i think a significant success by extending all tax cuts. this mortgaging of our children's futures the debt and deficit. you look at it in one way we have a worse debt problem in the short term than greece and spain does. what have they

it is home to the original libertarian tea partier, ron paul, and astroturf tea party leader dick armeyd last year when fox news and glenn beck were looking for a venue to hold its inaugural tax day tea party, they brought ted nugent with them to the alamo. somebody's got a crush. in our number one story, the state of texas now has a tea party government that would make the nuge proud. yesterday in austin, the gop was happier than a gopher in sort dirt. governor perry, a staunch tea partier who's been known to beat around the succession bush, announcing the new super majority of his republican party in the statehouse has. november gains put them close to it. yesterday, to democrats announced they would switch party, giving them a super majority. the upshot to democrats in texas are now as relevant as the mythical chupacabra. and the second largest state in the union is now a wholly owned subsidiary of the tea party. it means it gets to tackle the texas-sized republican created $25 billion shortfall the state created last year. and this also means an easier path for an ambitious gop soci

and the republican party is deal with the tea partiers but every poll i see and everybody that i talk, i've never heard people so angry. you see it's not rocket science. when people are scared about losing their jobs or their homes or their savings, when they're economically frustrated and anxious and secure there is a tendency to want to find somebody to blame. and these situations and you see historically in this country and also tragically in europe -- these situations do breed the possibility for demagogues to come along and say, well, your problems are really related to them or them or them. the upsurge in anti-immigrant sentiment now, i think, is indirectly or sometimes directly related on the economic pressures people feel. the upper surge in anti-muslim sentiment. you know, the irony after 9/11 you didn't see the ugliness the hatefulness that we are now seeing. you didn't see it after -- well, we could go on and on and on. you get my point. and it's happening in europe as well. a kind of anti-immigrant sentiment. a right wing nationalism xenophobia, isolationism. we had it in

linda mcmahon up in connecticut the tea party backer, senator jim demint, put all kind of members, tea partiers, who were beaten in november. could have taken over the senate and didn't. rhode island democrat frank capo running for governor up there who had this to say to president obama when president obama passed him over in favor of lynn shafey to pay off an old debt. here he is. >> i never asked for president obama's endorsement. he can take his endorsement and really shove it as far as i'm concerned. chris: well, there's a class act. and nancy pelosi for staying on as house democratic leader even after the party lost big. norah, worst move of the year? >> worst move was probably the millionaire thing but i love that so many women have so many millions to spend. the silver lining. we have known and history is replete with self-funders, candidates who don't end up winning. meg whitman takes the cake with $150 million of her own money. i think it says something, look, when you're running for off and you have to ask people for money to contribute to you, they didn't invest in your campaign in

chris: isn't the deal problem this, if you listen to the tea partiers, not the way liberals want to listen but actually listen to them, they don't talk about deficit reduction. or debt reduction. they talk about spending reduction. they don't want to hear about taxes going up as part of any deal. and isn't that the part's problem, norah? and he has -- his idea is he can't sell anything -- he can't sell anything to his party unless he includes some kind of revenue increase with the spending cuts. >> no doubt. and look, any expert, that's studied this as a republican or democrat, acknowledges they're -- there are going to have to be spending cuts but revenue increases. >> you're right. the focus is on spending. but what he's going to do on taxes is propose some kind of big change in the way we think of taxation to begin with. in other words, he's going to go big on it. as a way of engagerring the republicans including the tea party people in in a discussion. a lot of the tea party people are in favor of a flat tax of some kind. if the president is going to try to draw them into that discussi

the tea partiers ran on changing the rules. and most of all mitch mcconnell and harry reed and john boehner have to figure out how to work together. this is first time that the senate and the house will be run by different parties since 2004. people are out of practice. >> schieffer: cheryl, you know, again, we see money entering in to the system like we've never seen it before. "the washington post" this morning in a front page story points out that during the very week when congress was working out the regulations to police wall street, the members of the joint committee working that out received $480,000 in campaign contributions. do you see this letting up at all? will there be any serious work done to try to rein in this campaign spending? >> may be work done on it. for now it has worked for the members ever congress despite the criticism, they haven't stopped this practice. i want to point out that what the "washington post" reported is very common. it's been going on for years. when i look at those congressionally tax pa

. >> meet the tea partiers. >> here in alaska, i always think of the mamma grizzly bears. >> i'm not parties across america are going to have a great deal to say about who is in office. >> that thunderous shift in the house of representatives. more than 60 seats. >> i'm not recommending for every future president that they take a shellacking like i did last night. >> i believe that we are on the way to convincing the afghan people that we are here to protect them. >> today, i accepted general stanley mcchrystal's resignation. >> those disparaging remarks mcchrystal and his aides made about the president and key members of his national security team in "rolling stone" magaz e magazine. >> president obama is declaring the official end of operation iraqi freedom. >> do you feel like the war is over? >> we're still here. we've still got a job to do. >> a group online called wikileaks, along with three major newspapers, has published 92,000 classified intelligence documents. >> i'm a combative person, so, i like crushing bastards. >> 500 million users on facebook this week. >> there's thi

so clearly after we aired that video we thought that while we could make fun of the tea partiers but apparently many of them are completely a lacking when it comes to a sense of humor and distinguishing a joke from reality and in fact we got so much hate mail from that clip that i had to address it on the following show. apparently many of our youtube viewers suffer from a serious lack of sense of humor you know from being able to conquer.

on the one hand, they want to prove to tea partiers that they are serious about cutting the budget. on the other hand, it's very difficult to cut off unemployment benefits during the holiday season. katie? >> couric: chip reid at the white house, chip, thank you. the commission president obama appointed to come up with a plan to reduce the federal deficit is expected to officially roll out its recommendations tomorrow. and the republican's co-chairman of that panel, alan simpson, said today with his trademark candor he expects critics to tear right into it. >> they're gonna rip this thing to shreds and do it with zeal. we will listen now in the next few days to the same old crap i've been dealing with in all my public life. emotion, fear, guilt, and racism. and when people use emotion, fear, guilt, and racism on you, you use facts on them, which really irritates them. >> couric: we'll have comprehensive coverage tomorrow of the panel's recommendations and the tough choices we'll all be facing to reduce the sea of red ink. the outgoing congress has a lot on its plate. the senate pass

economy is always at the very very center here and we have so many demands coming from like the tea partiers and things like that about what the government should do and what you shouldn't do and a lot of people blame just the government for wrecking their consumers and they you know you and i i think the rest of the panel can agree is that the fed you know was very reckless in its policies but still people said you know i want those houses i want to keep those houses and i want to maintain the lifestyle that i had i i guess maybe i'm the only person here that doesn't think that people so willingly change their attitudes they're forced to change their attitudes. well you know what we have to look at that we have to look at the state as you mention we only live in a semi capitalist society in the west that we have all our time preferences warped by the welfare state by the central banks by all the actions of government take us away from long term thinking and generate and and promote short term thinking so that's a very bad thing we have to do something about dramatically cutting back the sta

don't you and that it will be held just an hour before the first vote even better looks like the tea partiers are going to end up being more establishment thank you thank. now the u.s. congress might be starting their christmas break a little bit later the white house says that they will not be adjourning until the arms reduction treaty known as start has ratified both russian president dmitri medvedev and president barack obama signed start back in april and passing the new start treaty before the new year has been one of the president's top priorities artie's guy that you can look at the political infighting the delay the ratification so far. in terms of substance there is nothing that can stop the new start from being routed fight key questions concerns whatever senators had during the course of the past eight months of hearings were all addressed i do think that we have as i mentioned done our homework with regard to the new start treaty and that it is. in a good situation to ratify it in the slam duck session it has the unanimous support of the country's military many top officials forme

that's what they do that by taking so much from you i so much thank you are coming up next one tea partiers says that if you don't land russian be allowed crazy comments on him tonight full time award i have more on that in a moment and an art exhibit at the smithsonian got some conservatives so upset that was home. but what happened to art from an expression and individual interpretation or did this piece really go too far or how do you mean she was since we come back. hungry for the feast we've got. the biggest issues get a human voice ceased to face with the news makers.

and eleven and what drama politicians will bring i'm pretty sure that with a fresh new batch of tea partiers coming to the capitol we're going to get our fill . now you know the r t and below to show give you extensive coverage of america's war in afghanistan and this year of the war especially has been one to talk about it was the deadliest year by far for u.s. troops and the entire coalition civilian casualties soar general stanley mcchrystal was fired halfway through the year and replaced by general david petraeus wiki leaks dumped seventy seven thousand reports covering six years of the war and just last week the obama administration released a much anticipated strategy review and yet a new study by the pew research center has found that the mainstream media devoted only four percent of their coverage over the last year to this war four percent is that all but hundreds of billions of dollars and thousands of lives gets these days we are discussing with me is christopher chambers georgetown university professor and author of the blog not hers or venture chris thanks so much for being here

this crosses the political spectrum especially if we look at this polls you know especially with tea partiers coming in but are republicans going to take credit for this are are they going to give ron paul any credit or are they going to say that you know we thought this was a great idea all along well there's still considerable amount of pushback and we've heard rumors that you know incoming speaker boehner is going to try to rein in ron paul so whether that happens or not you know we'll see this word. no the companion bill in the house in the senate for ron paul was introduced by bernie sanders socialist over here with the libertarian say we need to bring you know some sort of oversight to the fed now there is a lot of suspicion i think particularly the left as long sit in suspicious of the fed basically being a front for wall street you know and i think some of these things we've seen that have come out really raise some questions over whose interests are they looking after all streets are main streets but i think you're going to see a lot of pushback from the center i mean i haven't yet s

people to hold on to what happened before do you think i mean we hear even today right from the tea partiers we hear a lot about states' rights we hear talks of secession from from states like texas even but i mean do you think that there's any kind of an issue that could bring the u.s. to the point where another civil war breaks out you know we're really get to that point absolutely not i mean it's hard to top human bondage in terms of things that would bring a country to the verge of civil war and those issues are mostly mostly hasta ready we agreed the society generally but you can't see it from the union that you can't know it by federal laws are covered and so i think the talk in the tea party talk from some members of the conservative movement is mostly bluster to express their anger at the obama administration's agenda but you know it's worth saying that the best majority of americans don't. i believe that you can see that you should majorities of americans most of story ins will say and then big u.s. flee the civil war was about slavery now the days of slavery are now long gone but y

well, these people have all been elected, whether they're tea partiers or not. so i'm confused by it frankly. i don't know -- nobody has been to say we represent the tea party. i think it's all right. >> larry: what's your read about sarah palin? >> i sat next to her once, thought she was beautiful. and i think she's very happy in alaska. and i hope she'll stay there. >> larry: you have a way of putting things, barbara, that are very unique and are uniquely barbaraisms. you've had this all your life with her, right? >> he's put up with it. >> larry: if you want a direct opinion. she likes alaska, stay there. do you have a personal favorite in 2012? >> i mentioned jeb. but he's not going to try. so, i don't. if you told me who would the nominee be, i couldn't tell you. we like mitt romney. we know him well and like him very much. >> larry: he's more in your -- in keeping with the bush political stance. >> don't want to kill him off. >> larry: middle of the road? >> he's a reasonable guy. conservative fellow, which is good. but, no, i think he'd be a good president

i'm saying to the tea partiers this morning, grab your pitch forks. let's stand up against this.running, senator. you're coming up on the drop dead date where the federal government is going to go out of business -- run out of money for a day or two. the democrats say, it's those darn republicans. when you look at the earmarks in there, it's not just democrats. there are a bunch of big republicans with earmarks in this thing. >> brian: at least six. >> look, it is republican disease as well and it's got to be stopped. it has got to be stopped. there is three kinds of senators here in the senate. republican senator, democrat senators, and appropriators. and it has got to be stopped and now is the time to do it and if i were one of those 23 democrats senators up next time, i'd be a little nervous about voting for this bill. >> gretchen: i want to get your thoughts on this, senator demint has said, let's read these bills out loud and -- >> i'll be demanding that the bill be read. >> gretchen: you would agree with senator demint, 'cause some people say that's just a stall tactic and

montana republican denny rebber, who was the tea partier with his name on the most earmarks, says he has rescinded any earmarks for next year. >>> finally, women in the house of representatives will no longer have to shlep the extra two minutes to the restroom. speaker designate john boehner says he's asked the capitol architect to build women's facilities adjacent to the house door. currently only male lawmakers have a restroom that close. boehner called the change long overdue. >>> it may seem like a long time until the iowa caucuses in early 2012, but things are already heating up as winter descends on the heartland. steve brown has that story from iowa. >> how are you? >> potential presidential candidates like sarah palin popping up in iowa 14 months before the first in the nation white house contest here is not exactly new, but iowa republicans insist. >> it's been a dramatic change on the landscape here in iowa, especially when you consider this was the state that launched barak obama just over two years ago. >> for starters, republican will be back as governor, making him the

were very, very stressful to say this was not "earmarks," but enough extra in there to tick off tea partiers who in the end said we would be better off junking this and seeing everyone's tax rate go up and with the new republican congress pushing the forward and making them retroactive. this is the reality. were. the bush-era tax cuts are going to be renewed right now. and the president is signing this into law in a moment. what makes this intriguing is not just the folks who are not there, but what this is going to do for the economy in the meantime. we are outside here talking to a lot of folk whose have a lot at stake because this could have a lot to decide as to whether people spend more, don't spend more, are anxious more, that is the thing we are following. the markets have been expecting this, they have been anticipating this, so there would be shock if this did not 45. woe are a minute away from the president debailing this to the american public and this has been as you probably heard from the likes of chris wallace and shep, just the past hour, a very divisive area and a no win iss

despite the overwhelming support from the american people, despite support from church goers even tea partiers, we still have the deal with the defense policy in the pentagon and the defense leadership is a lot more conservative sometimes than the average american so we see a lag sometimes on issues like this. but in addition to lesson, there's been the organizational politics that have been involved, those have been ruthless unfortunately. you know, dealing with the white house is a unique set of -- yuan, a unique circumstance. the white house, i think they want a lot of things and they're not always able to line up their priorities, trying to please various interest group communities, there's a lot i've learned, believe me, but hopefully we'll be at the end of this ride in the coming days. >> the executive director of service members united. thank you for your time this evening. >>> since alex mentioned the white house, my wife works in the council's office there. full disclosure. >>> he's so extreme, the mosque turns him in to law enforcement. happy ending, right? not for the mosque and not

the tea partiers endorsing were opposing this deal. the astroturfing freedom works supports the bill because it represents an opportunity to avert the coming tax disaster. you know, the disaster where millionaires and billionaires may be taxed. conservative radio host hew hewitt said they spend millions with the tax hike the country voted against. they like the tax cuts, but not the obama tax cuts and hate unemployment insurance extension. they didn't vote against tax hikes for millionaires. who voted against this mess? the 15 nays were these. his 8 1/2-year-old filibuster left friday joins me for a four-minute interview thank you for your time. >> good to be with you. >> every one of my viewers asked me to extend thanks and congratulations for what you did on friday. the caveat to that is why were you the only one speaking that way? >> i was joined by a couple of others very briefly, but i think we have a problem. the problem is the democrats have to show more courage. the president has to show courage in rallying the american people

>>neil: i talked to tea partiers including one earlier not pleased about what you had to do to get thisot you, in particular, but republicans in general that you are swallowing a lot of junk that you normally wouldn't have to. >>guest: there is junk i don't like. no two ways but i don't like a massive tax increase january 1st. i do like making sure we do not have the tax rates going up in the next two years and i do not think temporary extension of the tax rates is particularly stimulative because the produces uncertainty but the counter to that, huge tax rates in a few weeks this is better than that so i don't like not paying for the extension, and i don't like the rebates which we have proved do not work. and there is a lot of tax pork that is extended that i don't like and i never voted for this stuff in the first place but i want the tax rates, we did not decouple, you do not see class warfare economics being played here and we have two more years on the tax rates. >>neil: but the estate tax will go up, maybe to 35 percent and many fear it will go higher to placate floorry democrats

the tea partiers are coming in now. they don't understand a lot of stuff. they want to be able to look up stuff. that's why they want those i pads on the floor. >> good morning. i think our government is so out of touch. there's a word i hear in the deproshery line, at work, in my neighborhood. that word is revolution. that scares me. you hear it all the time. people are really angry. i hope it doesn't come to that. if they don't get their act together, i'm afraid thb country is in for a hard time. thank you. host: to the democrat line. caller: i want to wish everybody a merry christmas. happy holiday. go back and find out why just was brought to the earth and read his sermon on the mount. we are supposed to love one another. get something done for americans. people are out of work. we need to come together. everybody, please. let's quit fighting and get it together. thank you and happy holidays. host: a story today in the "washington post" about wiretapping. if of host:ville, alabama. caller: this guy called in a while ago about people rising up and revolu

i am not making an analogy by the folks today on the right wing you have some kind of a party, tea partierwhatever, they make a hell of a lot of noise. if you are in politics you are not going to take the chance so i can't explain it to you. if you ask me why anti-semitism, that is a different question. i am sure, you sound as if you have explore that issue and you know the difference, why people have turned to anti-semitism over the years. but that is a different thing. i'm saying people are really going to vote that way. if you have a congressman or a senator running for re-election and he hasn't done some kind of things on labor law or economics or foreign policy, than the presupposition is that whatever that is, because he happened to do one thing or didn't attack the jews that the people are going to be so caught up with anti-semitism that they are going to vote against him. that is kind of a dubious proposition but not any politicians are willing. >> i have a question mr. shogan and that is once they were robbed of their stated disbelief by facts and reality, did any of these promine

where's the march by the tea partiers? where's the outcry by these people who wanted something different in washington? they seem to be silent. why isn't fox news going -- here's a look at the ball right there. where's the march. this is the same old crap that we see in washington and you know it. >> well, it's because it's the same old congress. remember the new congress hasn't started yet. >> oh. >> most of the people that the tea party supported aren't there ed. a lot of them are of course saying hey i got booted out and i will stick my constituents a lesson. >> it's about the money. it's about no earmark, or it's about no hearings, no markups, no cbo score. >> crazy, crazy. >> it's the same old garbage and where are the republicans? they stand, they're worried about having to worry about working over the holidays. tom, good to have you with us tonight. appreciate your time. >> likewise, buddy. >> coming up the beckster is gift-wrapping some paranoia for the holidays and of course we're going to light him up in the zone

could the tea partiers and the progressives get together? when did the progressives become the deficit hawks? >> you know, look, i'm a progressive and i'm a deficit hawk, and i always have been. i believe in the long run if you run the place properly, you're going to have a good economy. i agree with the chairman of the economic advisers council. this is a very tight, difficult tightrope to walk on. i don't see how giving tax breaks to people making $1 million a year helps anybody. all it does is crank up the national debt and reduce confidence in the united states of america and confidence has to be restored to get out of this recession. >> howard dean, thank you. let's bring in our company. karen hunter, "the washington post" ezra klein and sophia nelson. is this a done deal or could the house have something to say about this? >> they could have something to say about it. the odds are it's more of a done deal than people are letting on. with the deals it's wise for the two sites to build and something to, negotiated up or down a little bit

the heat is coming from the newly emboldened conservative base in the republican party and the tea partiers and others had railed against earmarks. it really became awkward when you see senator connen come out and attack the bill and then get challenged because he has his own earmarks in it. it just became untenable. they couldn't vote against it. and still have any credibility. and so they just had to tank the bill all together. and this is just a touch of flavor of the kind of fights, many fights that we're going to be in for next year. i can almost see why the republicans would have preferred to have a long-term omnibus spending bill that would get them into next year before these kinds of clashes would begin happening. because now in all likelihood they could start almost as soon as the next congress begins. >> that is exactly what we're going to see in the next congress. elections have consequences and these is the result of exactly what we saw happen in november. thanks so much, jeanne cummings. >>> coming up next, one last chance for don't ask, don't tell. >>> plus, health and human

how seriously should republicans take complaint from the tea partiers, hey, not that you got a lower deal than the democrats but you reintated the death tax, as they call it, because it was at zero and now it will be up at 35%. a you spent billions in dollars in unemployment compensation without paying for it. >> it's unseemly. the deals themselves aren't huge. unseemly. you hear wind farm and ethanol credit, the buzz words, it's unseemly. this is knock to credibility of the republicans as they come in and it means they will have to work that much harder once you push the reset and say this is now the 112th congress, not the 111th congress and we're going to do it. >> chris: we have to take a break here, but when we come back we'll continue this discussion and turn to a white house briefing like none you have seen before. two presidents, one lectern. you won't want to miss it. and what our panel has to say. [ heather businesses need a reliable financial partner. one who can stay in sync with their moves. my job at ge capital is to get bobcat all the financial and business support the

so a good day for one of the original tea partiers or at least the beer named after them. >> how much am i responsible for that? earnings going up? i don't have a stake in the company. i do have a stake in the earnings going up i think. >> you got a piece of the rock or of the beer. >> well, i don't think i'd call it a rock. joe, thanks for coming in. we got more to come on the program tonight. joe, you got me thinking about having a sam adams right now. think it's a little early though. including "time" magazine's person of the year. he's the face of the facebook generation. was it the right choice? piers morgan, sam donaldson here to debate that one. the president today called a ceo summit. he's had rocky relations with the business community. and pete on the street has a question, why after the election do people still hold congress in such low esteem? ♪ leftover desserts, boardroom, now. and hurry before the interns get here. thanks but i already have some yummy black forest cake. black forest cake? ♪ so? [ female announcer ] need a guilt free treat? try yoplait light. and i've lo

conservative justice scalia will give a talk organized by tea partier michele bachmann. now, she and her supporters have been very vocal opponents of the new health care law which is sure to end up before the high court. his talk is not about that and is not open to the public, though, or to the press. let's bring in our company. patrick gavin, former domestic policy adviser jami floyd and princella smith. all right, now, we have to understand that it's not out of the ordinary for justices to give speeches. they do that. but then there are a couple major questions here and, jami, let me ask you the first one. does this create a conflict or at least the appearance of a conflict of interest? i know you vetted supreme court nominees before. is there a problem not only as michele bachmann sponsoring this talk, but she's on one of the briefs arguing against the health care law. >> and i think we all agree and we should probably put this on the table that this health care law will end up at the supreme court. we have justices from different circuits disagreeing which gets you