, "tea party: three principles." you make the point that the tea party is not a party, it is a movement. what's the distinction that's worth knowing about? >> guest: well, yeah. it's not the party in the sense that it has no interest in anointing some sort of central leader. it really is a movement that's defined by what i talk about in the book, three very clear, very old constitutional principles. so you've noticed that the tea party, you know, through the november 2010 elections and continuing to today has been sort of ruthless about throwing its support behind candidates who espouse these principles, and they don't really care much whether those candidates have an r or d after their name, and they certainly don't seem to care that they might be well-entrenched, well-funded incumbent republicans. all they care about is getting their principles embraced by our politicians. >> host: and, in fact, the -- you say the media makes a mistake by thinking that the tea party is nonexistent in this cycle, that because we don

maverick on twitter asks contrast the tea party patriots to the tea party evangelical.cites the example of sarah palin claiming to be a tea party patriot and ask the question can it be both? >> tea party patriots i assume talking about the tea party patriots, what is interesting and we point out in the book is jenny martin who heads tea party patriot is good friends with ralph reed to happens to head of the face of freedom coalition which is the teavangelicals presentation. they do events together and amy kramer who heads tea party express and a lot of events and not only coordinate's but in constant contact with concerned women for america, the tentacles of this, the web is connected in different ways. doesn't mean it is organized but loosely organized from a relationship perspective. >> host: good morning on the independent line. >> caller: thanks for c-span. i wanted to ask david brody if his theory is that the tea party is primarily evangelical then why is it that almost all of the money from the tea party is going through grover norquist from the cote brothers and

we don't have to water down what we believe in order to attract the tea party that. basic limited thought, which is the foundation of the republican party. >> what do you expect or do you want the tea party to have a prime time speaking position or some representative of the tea party at the republican national convention? would this be important to the tea party members? >> yes, it is. but they will be there. >> it's a big difference between attending and having the levy lefting and saying the voice i'm here on behalf of the tea party. >> i would love to see sarah palin have a big slot as far as speaking because there's known still in america that i think excites the base of conservatives and even libertarians as she does. she can draw a crowd more than any other republican and i think has more influence in primaries than any other endorsement right now. but we need to have some new republicans like marco rubio, pat, mike lee, some of the folks that changed the face of the senate and real heroes in the house like jim jordan, i would love to have them have prime spea

host: the tea party enjoyed strength in previous years. what does it give to the party as far as their ability to influence even more so in this coming election? guest: here is the bottom line and truth. libertarians can not make a difference by themselves. conversely, conservative christians cannot do it all by themselves as well. clearly, you take them out. if you rapture them out of the tea party, you are left with less than half of a movement. host: as far as describing them as a group, how would you define evangelical? guest: there are well known for their influence in the community and a lot of their service. someone who believes in the bible and that every word is true that of this resource with the belief in jesus christ as your personal savior. there is some fine-tuning after that. host: david brody is our guest. if you want to ask him questions about his books or maybe religious voters and politics, to ask him questions, here is how you can do so. the number to call for our democrat line is 202-737-0001. the number to call for our

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these conservative christians who are breaking bread with tea party libertarians. a lot of folks hear the tea party movement and they say it's just a bunch of libertarians that want constitutionly limited government. i went to these tea party rallies and found out that there were many conservative christians in the ranks and so came up with this word. i figured i could call them tea party christians or christian tea partiers, i thought that was a little too radical so i went with teavangelicals and they're breaking bread with tea party libertarians because they believe the fiscal issues are extremely important in this country and it's not just about the marriage issues and life issues. there's no chance of them co-opting this movement at all. >> woodruff: so this idea that they're two separate groups, you're saying there's more overlap than we thought. not that they all overlap, just more overlap. >> that's right. because really most social conservatives are fiscal conservatives and that's one of the points i make in the book. and i just make sure that people under

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>> there's a jim holmes in the aurora tea party site talking about him joining the tea party last year. we don't know if this is the same jim holmes, but it's a jim holmes of roerz, colorado. (audience reacts) >> jon: obviously correct response to that statement is brian, i thought you said you had something significant! (laughter) not "hey, george, let me interrupt you, i put the name james holmes into my search engine and hit the "i'm feeling lazy button." (laughter and applause) of course stephanopoulos is in the middle... stephanopoulos is in the middle of doing a lot of things and i'm assuming he was under the impression that brian ross checked out this (bleep) he's saying on air before saying it. because brian ross is the chief investigative correspondent and not, let's say, the office gossip. (laughter) yeah, jim hums and he's totally a porn star and i... (laughter) i'm just... george, i'm just saying the killer is a porn star. (laughter) oh, wait, i'm sorry, that's totally john holmes but, um, whatever. (laughter) so of course two and a half hours later... >> an earlier report

about him joining the tea party last year. now, we don't know if this is the same name but it is name of aurora colorado giving the name get. it wasn't the same man. ross later was forced to apologize for his gaffe as he should have. joining me former white house secretary and cohost of the popular and successful show "the five." dana perino. you have quite a fan club here by the way. i was shocked that brian ross would wrecklessly and irresponsibly make some connection to the tea party without any basis whatsoever to do so. >> not only is that shocking, from a reporter who should get things 100% right but that he went to the tea party website first to see if there was a connection. i actually think that is almost more interesting and then they get it wrong and then have to be forced to apologize. then they wonder why they have journalism has such a low approval rating. when i was the white house press secretary they used to give us a hard time because of president bush's approval rating. i remember being aed what are you goin

site as well talking about him joining the tea party last year. we don't know if this is the same jim holmes but it is jim holmes of colorado. >> that was brian ross talking to george stephanopoulos on "good morning america." of course, it was not the jim holmes. on a scale of one to five if five is completely lacking in journalistic credibility where would you put this one? >> six. i mean and here is why. not only did they get it wrong, not only did brian ross use that great journalistic tool of going toll find this guy jim holmes but then they put brian ross that night on abc world news at 6:30 p.m. and did a completely different story about the shooting and never apologized. didn't apologize during the day. owed not only the viewer but also mr. holmes the innocent one a full retraction on the air. this goes into too good to check, couldn't wait, didn't even apologize. >> does nobody stop and think maybe we ought to check this out before we go to air with it? >> that is the interesting question about this episode. everybody makes mistakes but wh

as well talking about him joining the tea party last year.don't know if this is the same jim holmes. >> sean: he was absolutely wrong. it was a different jim holmes. they were left to apologize but too little, too late. that is the biggest donor, bill maher, instead of focusing on the tragedy he took a swipe at republicans. he tweeted, quote, right wingers love to tout american exceptionalism. today is a reminder that make an exception is bad. this is not the first time that members of tea party have been falsely blamed to incite tragedies. back in january of 2011 when gabrielle giffords was shot while meeting with her constituents people blamed the tea party movement. in particular sarah palin was blamed for the senseless tragedy because of an add put out by the action committee. jane fonda, progressive representative gabrielle giffords was shot, sarah palin had targeted in a gunfight inciting the violence. they hold responsibility as does the violence rhetoric of the tea party. when the tragedy at ford hood happened when the shooter when he

they're not bringing it into the tea party rallies. 60% of tea parties are considered socially conservativethe of all of these conservative christians and social conservatives in the movement. the was the two-party done? they adhere to a very strict fiscal discipline, if you will. host: the t party enjoyed strength in previous years. what does it give to the party as far as their ability to influence even more so in this coming election? guest: here is the bottom line and truth. libertarians can not make a difference by themselves. conversely, conservative christians cannot do it all by themselves as well. clearly, you take them out. if you rapture them out of the tea party, you are left with less than half of a movement. host: as far as describing them as a group, how would you define evangelical? guest: there are well known for their influence in the community and a lot of their service. someone who believes in the bible and that every word is true that of this resource with the belief in jesus christ as your personal savior. there is some fine-tuning after that. host: david brody is our

is for tea party supporters. so there's no guarantee this will translate into a higher turnout in terms of voters, elections for the republicans. >> if you're advising a campaign, would you tell your candidate, go out there and campaign against health care? withed you do that? >> if i'm advising mitt romney? >> mitt romney or any republican? would you tell them to campaign against health care? >> no, i would tell congressional members, mitt romney to pivot off health care as fast as possible. that most people in this country care about the economy and jobs. but i would never say that getting the tea party base of the party is going to hurt you. that absolutely makes no sense. >> i would tell people to find every district where it looks like health care, health win majorities, victoies in 2010, put a laser on those districts. >> is this a tough sell for republicans to gethere and tell people in their backyard, sorry, got to take this away from you even though the country has passed it? >> it is hard. here's the re

as a national movement and hijacked the tea party agenda because when a tea party member in ohio or pennsylvania or michigan stands up and says we want smaller government they mean something different than what a petrochemical operator says when he says we want smaller government too. what has happened is the tea party movement has been largely hijacked by corporate polluters to give a populist veneer to a smokestack agenda that i don't think most tea party years actually embrace. when translated in this city into a situation in which you have hundreds of lobbyists funded by hundreds of millions of dollars every year going up and patting backs and twisting arms on capitol hill and going to bat for shareholders of corporate polluters for the sake of greater profits. we need to stand up and say we respect your right to speak out on behalf of the shareholders the rest of us have an opportunity to speak on behalf of what is good for the future of our country and that is what we're trying to do. >> another question over here. >> could you talk a little bit about not coming but we are in

tea party into this. let's say it is the same jim holmes who shot up the theater who in the tea party? what's the significance of that, brian? >> bill: i think that would have been news worthy. if somebody from move on -- >> would it be news worthy if he were a registered republic? >> bill: let me ask you. this i know where you are going here. if somebody from move on, if that guy was a member of move on and that was, you know, he was out demonstrating and this and that, that would become a huge story. any kind of political activism attached to a mass murder is going to be a story. here is what i would have done. you tell me if i am wrong. >> hold on. bill. >> bill: go ahead. >> if he had said before he opened fire, i'm sick and tired of government intruding in my life, then, it might have been relevant. >> bill: i disagree with you. i think that any kind of political component -- >> -- what's the relevance? >> bill: the relevance is you are tieing politics into violence. that's just irrelevant. >> only a

host: the tea party enjoyed strength in previous years. f these teavangelicals give to the party? guest: here is the bottom line -- libertarians can not make a difference in this country by themselves. conservative christians cannot do it all by themselves as well. clearly the key part is to bring both sides together and that is what the teavangelicals are doing. if you take them out of the tea party, you are left with less than half of the movement. there is no tea party movement without the conservative christians. host: as far as describing them as a group, how would you define evangelical? guest: we go through that in the group -- the book. we use a certain definition -- evangelical as someone who believes in the bible, that every word in the bible is true. it starts with that in the belief in jesus christ as your personal savior. you go from there. there is some fine-tuning if you like but those are the staple points. host: david brody is our guest to talk about his book and the influence of the teavangelicals. if you want to ask quest

matt and i in tel aviv about six months ago, we were able to start the first tea party in israel. we call it kosher tea. started off with 70 people crowded into a cramped little space not much bigger than this platform, but now i understand they have grown to over 700. freedom, there is a thirst for it all across our world. and as i leave you tonight, or this afternoon -- i usually speak at night -- as i leave you this afternoon, i want you americans to know from the words of christ, that these words don't fit many other people in our world today, but it does fit you in this room here today. you are the salt of the earth, but if the salt loses its savorness, savor, its usefulness, then it is good for nothing but to be thrown out, trampled under the foot of men. you are the light of the world. a city that set up on a hill cannot be hid, so let your light so shine before men. that they will see your good works, america, glorify our creator who gave us the rights that we have, and as i travel around this country, sometimes shaking unfriendly hands, sometimes finding myself in perilous

you look at what the tea party method, its approach, actual banner of the tea party as it begins to formd manifested itself in 2010. no compromise, no retreat. and what's happening now is the chickens have come home to roost. and the republican party less and less is a place for moderate republicans. so what you see is a squeeze and divide within the republican party, we see it here in texas with the ted cruz race. we have seen it elsewhere where the idea of compromise is out the window and the whole thing is about my side, my way, my highway, or no way. >> well, let me ask you victoria. when you look at the fact that several republicans have come out and spoken out strongly against the extreme turn in the gop-led olympia snowe who announced her retirement from congress earlier this year. spoken out about, quote, an atmosphere polarization and a my way or the highway ideology. former state senator chuck hagel recently said that there is a streak of intolerance in the republican party today that scares people. and richard luger reear said of murdoch said his embrace of an unrelenting part

about him joining the tea party last year. now, we don't know if this is the same name but it is name of aurora colorado giving the name get. it wasn't the same man. ross later was forced to apologize for his gaffe as he should have. joining me former white house secretary and cohost of the popular and successful show "the five." dana perino. you have quite a fan club here by the way. i was shocked that brian ross would wrecklessly and irresponsibly make some connection to the tea party without any basis whatsoever to do so. >> not only is that shocking, from a reporter who should get things 100% right but that he went to the tea party website first to see if there was a connection. i actually think that is almost more interesting and then they get it wrong and then have to be forced to apologize. then they wonder why they have journalism has such a low approval rating. when i was the white house press secretary they used to give us a hard time because of president bush's approval rating. i remember being asked what are you go