mike huckabee, the tea party, and all these other losers who have lost the elections, lost the party, only are in congress because of gerrymandering and they are talking to their own people and have lost the hearts and minds of this country. so whether it's gay rights and marriage equality, whether it's the role of women, whether it's people who can make stupid comments about rape, look at it all the way down the line. how did the roman catholic bishops do based on the fact that he thinks women ought to have the ability to get contraceptives on their insurance policies? they continue to fail but they are rolling the clock back into the era of reconstruction and trying to carve off part of this country as a separate entity, almost as if the civil war had not been fought. i don't think it's a coincidence that rush limbaugh and these guys are gearing their messages to gin up the fury, they just try to keep their own subculture angry enough to sell books, to sell advertising on their tv shows and to keep their own people in the mix. >> jonathan, i don't know whether rush limbaugh or any o

how do you explain tea party support for the sequester to tea party members in those states who are soon going to lose their jobs? >> that's always a sad thing when you hear anybody lose their job but let's face it. republicans, tea partiers, we're the party of principle. we're not the party of punishment of politics. which is exactly what we're seeing right now with the obama administration. very simple. obama sitting here using the sequestration to punish those that did not go with him. have not necessarily voted with him or believe in his ideals. >> john: who was it that pushed the sequestration through the house? >> the house did vote for it. we're going to hold the house accountable? >> john: who pushed it through? >> the house is a majority. let's realize who came up with it? >> john: the name of the man who pushed it through the house? >> here's the deal. there are bad apples on both sides with this issue. this is the one thing -- >> john: john boehner. >> that's one of his guys. that's not one -- >> no. >> i get along with him on tanning issues but other than that, that's all i'm

so if the tea party was a flash in the pan? o can the republican party look forward to a more moderate future? the answer is not so fast. a new political science survey suggests that the gop should brace itself for more not less tea party insurgency. over three-quarters identify themselves as tea partiers more than republicans. more than three-quarterers also prefer a candidate who is likely to lose but shared their principles. finally the survey revealed . . . this idealogical gap in views could spell trouble for the gop in 2014. joining us tonight is one of our "war room" favorites, lee fang contributing writer to "the nation." who has a new book called "the machine: a field guide to the resurgent right." welcome back into "the war room" lee. >> hey michael thanks for having me. >> michael: of course. a few years ago it seemed like the republican party was going to take the tea party in. will that ever happen? >> i think we need to reconceptualize the tea party. if you look at the detailed history of how it came about, in a wa

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neil: i guess you could call it a tee -- tea 2.0 party. many saying that tea partiers have been the death of them. you say what? >> tea party represents the value that america has had, that made it strong. but,. neil: why are they treating congress like parias? >> it has more to do with weak leadership, and a lack of vision. neil: are you including the speaker of the house in that? >> speaker had concerned about the tea party, which causes me concerns about the speaker so what can i say. not as important about the tea party caucus here in washington, as it is the tea party caucus across america. tea party patriot across the nation have been concerned about out of control government, out of control government spending, and perhaps if you know we had one of the best businessmen. philanthropic but he could not talk about obamacare it was modeled after romneycare, there were millions of americans who stayed home who were tea party folks they felt disen frankized it is time to get them energized. really they are independent, when our leadership

there is no half way for tea party members. mr. morgan explained the group's objective is to get the right deal and not the most politicly feasible one. we can debate their believes. the tea party approach certainly did play a starring role in forcing the fiscal fiascos. the claim when strictly interpreted is true. >>> still ahead at 6:00 how prominent athletes are reacting to jason collins historing decision to tell the world that he is gay. >>> coming up i will show you how this robot is being used to help reduce the infection rate at a bay area hospital. >>> and good evening i'm jeff ranieri in the nbc bay area weather center. a lot of is sunshine. going to get hotter as we head throughout the seven day forecast. we have 80 in san jose. we will talk about our red flag fire warning coming up and where winds could top 50 miles per hour coming up. >>> president obama called for universal preschool being a top priority. just over 18% of 4 year olds are enrolled in preschool. the report found that most states serve less than a quarte

the government you know the i think it's a complicated question you're asking is you've got the tea party and then you have the corporations role i really think is funding the think tanks like the heritage foundation american enterprise institute manhattan institute and so forth chamber of commerce right and so they've maintained a steady drumbeat of invectives against regulations and coupled with america's natural cynicism to government that's going to break through i think the tea party case is a bit complicated because on the one hand sure they're going to say i'm against the government you hear that when they march on but they also don't like the big banks and how we're going to get rid of the big banks that's really going to take the role of government and so i think that if you were interviewing a tea party person right now you might find a more nuanced view they might i think as is often the case they might hate regulation in the general but when you mention specific aspects of regulation it's most americans do and i'd be like well if you put it that way and i hear that and i think

the tea party in many ways has lost a lot of this mojo because of overreach. it is out of sync with the values of so many people. we could have seen that in the summer of 2009. one of tea party people stood up and said "government, take your hands off my medicare." you see how internalized those programs are. >> who does not want to watch a car wreck? >> it has done a lot of damage. >> this tweet says the obama administration is responsible for the tea party. >> it opened a backing tree that hot summer of 2009 -- it opened up a vacuum for it. that hot summer of 2009. the president could have mobilized. there were people mobilizing on their own. a pragmatic, progressive president would have understood the power of having people in those places to combat a message that was full of misinformation. remember teh death panels? part of that is on us to fight back and expose that. only after labor day did the president come forward and begin to speak again to the people and explain where they were moving with the compromise to help program. >> even nixon went to the w

tea party segment is rising. do you think that is a permanent influence on the modern republican party now? if so give that is a grassroots movement is there anything your book you address individuals working at local levels and what they can do to further the cost? >> well, to answer your last question first. i think the most important thing that local individuals can do is be successful in local government and successful in your local political activism and campaigns. i think establishing a track record much credible effective government and proving that limited government is not about dismantling thing for no reason but maintaining acceptable level of prosperity and freedom. i think that's the most important thing that can be done. in terms of sort of the federal government, i think that a big thing that we often miss -- actually i'm guessing now. i don't remember the first part of your question. [laughter] >> do you think that the tea party . >> yes. >> will stick around as the major influence in the republica

, a real tea party.party that happens to be in the home of then supreme court justice harlin stone. you will hear her misspeak and refer to him as attorney general, when she clearly means supreme court justice. now listen to how this nonlawyer, francis perkins solved the puzzle of the constitutionality of social security. listen! listen to how history is made. >> we were having a great rangle about it, one day went out to tea, in washington you don't go to parties just because you want to go, you go because you have to go. i had to call upon mrs. stone, the attorney general, and she was at home on wednesday afternoons, and about 5:45, nearly the end of the day, i went to her house and presented myself, a lot of people there, went up to the dining room to get a cup of tea and there i met mr. justice stone who had just come home from the court and was getting his cup of tea, and we greeted each other, sat down to have another chat. he said how are you getting on. i said all right. then i said you know, i a

this is a tea party activist. a guy where rand paul could come to his defense and stand up for him. >> civil liberties has always been a bizarre row definition definition{^l"^^}. in north dakota we talk about a six week ban on abortion. you don't have to wear a seat belt. that's taking away your rights. you can drive without a seat belt but it's insanity how they pick and choose. >> let's just tell them they can control our uterus when they pry it out of our cold dead bodies. >> john: that's right. we've been talking about marriage equality, and i think this is the next freedom issue for our country. >> i think you're right. >> john: the decriminalization of cannabis, not putting people in jail for something that our last three presidents have done. >> and they were all gay married, too. >> not to mention in this economy we don't make anything any more. we cannot live on a service-based economy forever, and to generate a product that you can tax the holy lord of jesus on and bring revenue in. >> john: you're right

today there was a story about the tea party move -- losing its mojo. we're seeing overreach that has led people to this tipping point moment where millions of people have said enough. the obscene inequality in this country colliding with downward mobility that people feel in their gut, they see it among their family and friends. that has led to this moment where there is the possibility of space. organizers can move into it. we could see some real change. it will not come about through just one leader. >> it helps to have a leader who is effective. >> in traveling with the book, i am reminded about what candidate obamas said when he said i am a were shocked -- rorshack. people bring to him their views of the country, their anger and pain. feel he has done what he could in a system where you have a republican party that was determined to take him down. they did not want to govern with him. my sense is that he wanted to bring a different kind of politics to the country because of the nature of who he is. you come into washington and want to play kumba ya

and trying to equate the tea party with anarchists the tea party is not because we don't want we're not and you're preaching no government we're talking reaching smaller government less government less government wants is all government do you know most of what i also know you know what government at the coal you're a should be responsible as well let the billionaires decide how much smokestack they pollution they should have met but it's not of government and by the way i'm astounded you know people on the right are always like flag lapel pins i love the flag yeah ok that's the that's our government our government is us there is what's right you know i don't want to blame the government it's ok to me patriotic you know the very. old in vietnam when i was four years old in one thousand nine hundred sixty nine believe me. patriotism is very important so in my family it is i'm says that that rather than having a form of governance where we react to crises and we hope that for profit companies will do their reaction will do the right thing that we should prevent those crises that these

has had trust issues with the tea party. they didn't quite trust him when he ran for senate because they suspected he may be pro amnesty and he did a lot to disprove that what is the cost/benefit analysis for him? does it benefit him to get a deal through? or to stand with the tea party and stop it if necessary? >> such a great question, joy, and it's a question that i think we have to wait a little bit on to see how eventually marco rubio, what role he plays. in this day and age when we're seeing more and more politicians publicly come out to say they're evolving on issues, it's a popular thing we've been seeing a lot recently, it seems as though marco rubio has, indeed if you look at his record in very recent past been evolving on the issue of exactly what immigration reform he would be willing to support. but what i think is important, and is what he said. the timing of the letter? suspect. but what he said is -- listen, nothing has yet been written, as far as a specific proposal, and we have to be willing to give it the

>> i think with or without the tea party he's got a better shot. party oshriginated in 20 when folks talked about the toxic rhetoric. nobody has time for that anymore. that is not a policy or position. with or without the tea party that rhetoric is not going to work. >> you know, ryan, there's an expression that you say don't talk about it, be about it. and one of the things a lot of people took note is that when the president announced that he would take a 5% pay cut to show solidarity with federal workers hit by the automatic budget cuts and "the washington post" says it might be a strong political move. let me quote "the washington post." by taking a volunteer cut in his own pay, no matter the size or amount, president obama is forcing the sequester back into the news and back to people's minds at least for a day or two. >> i think it could backfire, though, because what the president wants the sequester to be appealed. he thinks the cuts are too draconian and by taking his own pay cut it sort of implies, hey, look, we're all going to take these

tea party to libertarians and others. and i am just wondering if you could comment on the san francisco hearing that and helped it from bcdci and which weiner attended as well was fas fascinating and if you could give us a feedback from counties and i know that marin county is coming up on april 29th. and another one on the 29th. and then may first on may day, alamena county and if you could give us some input and that is coming in from the regional counties. >> supervisor, they do say that beauty is in the eye of beholder and that is the case with this plan, using merin as an example. they comprise about 4 percent of our region's population today. and this plan assigns to them about 1 percent of the housing growth in the future. and you would think that we were bringing in a foreign invading army. some counties clearly think that any amount of growth is going to be destructive of the lifestyle they enjoy. and other counties like this one, i think are anxious to take on growth in the right places under the right condition

used to identify with the tea party base., i think this is the struggle that the republican party has been going through. whether or not it wants to try to appease and send cat nip to this base or whether it wants to make itself a national party. right now going in the direction of sarah palin and ted cruz, this party is a regingal party, a party that's increasesingly old and dying out when the electorate is changing rapidly. it's fine for democrats like myself if they want to continue to pay homage to sarah palin, but i think we're going to look back in a couple years and regard sarah palin as a one-hit wonder. she's got $1 million in her pac right now which is hardly the kind of resources you'd expect of a major leader inside party. i think the phoniness of her populism, i think her lack of substance, and i think all of these contradictions, the contradictions on the consultants, the contradictions we have pointed out on the fact she loves to criticize the lamestream media when she invokes the lamestream media to help gener

and from the finish line of the boston marathon it's not a long walk to go to where the tea party took place in boston harbor there's still a great museum based on a ship celebrates the tea party april fifteenth is of course the day that many people that are. beyond the far right. think of as a very important day because it's a day that represents tyranny right now we're also discussing. the. changing our gun laws and. the news came out today that. senator harry reid believes he does not yet have the votes to pass new gun regulations to fight gun violence that's an issue that has produced i do work for congresswoman carolyn maloney and when she proposed one of her gun regulations she received death threats so all these issues tax the tea party and guns were coming up on the anniversary of the oklahoma city bombing. that was basically generated by the belief on timothy mcveigh's part that the government his own government had become tyrannical which is something you hear echoed on the far right these days so if you weren't to make it and of course this is the city where two of the plane

the tea party had or it can always be explosive absolutely the tea party's rhetoric did verge on extremism certainly not blaming the tiepolo for any upsurge of right wing violence but you know there are some some suggestive inspiration here amy you want to jump in there go ahead yeah well let me i mean actually obama is a great example of the way in which there was an intersection between what happened after not what happened in nine eleven and over the two thousand it's not only that obama is african-american although i think that that's important but it was also he's also viewed by right wing groups as a foreigner and there's some suspicion right that he wasn't even born in this country there's an entire segment men dedicated to proving that he's not. so i do think that there's a shift. over the course of the last decade. folded into these other grievances that these groups have only because they come from the right to be tolerated for exactly the right let me have one head to head i'm sorry let me add one thing quick and that is the upsurge of agitation over immigration yes that you kno

this is essentially a more organized form of a tea party group, right? better funded... >> hockenberry: you've said we've made great headway. what it means for candidates in the republican side is if you buy into green energy or if you play footsie on this issue, you do so at your political peril. >> you do, absolutely. and that's a big change, and it is important. again, i remember four, five or even three years ago, john, a lot of republicans, they would play games with this. they'd say, "okay, oh gosh, i think i need a green energy agenda. but i won't go all the way and support cap-and-trade." they did. they tried to walk down the middle and that's wrong. i think it's philosophically inconsistent, but it's also politically disadvantageous. and we've worked hard to make that so, by the way. the left has had the edge as long as i can remember. they march out to the towns, do whatever they are told to do... one thing we've changed with afp, is we now have an army too. and we can do calls and e-mails and letters and rallies, events, and pressure. and i th

he sort of serves the tea party. >> then why do we need democrats in congress at all? >> he can't do it. >> why do we need democrats in congress at all? get rid of all the democrats then you can blame the entire party for every ill in the country. >> no, just the majority. >> yeah. >> just the majority. >> you're so funny. >> the problem we have now, bob, and this is the problem of people who ticket split. if you're going to vote for the president of one party and vote for the congress of one party, this is what you're going to come up against. if you tend to like the conservatives in the government because you vote that way in the house races who say we're not going to do this, not going to raise taxes, we're only going to cut poor people's programs. then you vote for a president who has a totally different point of view, you get log jams like this. nothing is happening except this guillotine coming down on their necks of everybody who's poor right now. >> well, i think that's true, and look, the democrats actually won the vote for the house by 1.6 million votes. they

movement i'm not talking at the co-opted tea party movement by fox news and the extreme g.o.p. how did you heard of occupy wall street to that it got co-opted in this you argue it out but it was very mechanized i mean you could koch brothers front groups was really involved and the glenn beck i mean we don't really have a glenn back for occupy wall street on mainstream media that we know but give it anyway i think it was coopted i think both both but i guess. they're all did you feel when the message of the movement was that was kind of generated by ron paul in this following it was co-opted and kind of the messages they looted and kind of lost sight on those unifying factor is a lot of people who are attracted to it well you know what got lost in this kind of the republican party to the republican party believe lost because of their social conservative agenda and i think. bottom line that is why they lost marriage equality immigration. woman's right to choose i think those issues really did in the republican party and the republican and by the way for anybody that's a social c

so how would that question be answered when it come to rubio other than giving peace to the tea partyembers of his caucus who may never be satisfied with this deal. >> i think that he needs to make sure that the nexus between border security enforcement and path to citizenship is all very tate and all the is are dotted and the ts are crossed. the path to citizen has been a sticking point. what the conservatives want to hear, if we're going to buy into this, you'd better really be telling us that that border is going to be secure. and peter king even yesterday said, eight guys in a room telling me that the border is going to be secure doesn't make it so. i need to see what's going on. >> a part of what ramped up the rhetoric from republicans as far as supporting immigration reform was the shellacking as some like to callett that happened in november. so the desire to have a compromise came from that. we know that, because we know the demographics of this country out west and even in the south with the latino vote will be very important. so while you have an important voice in the tea p

the tea party is advocating limiting national service. president obama campaigned to expand to 250,000. senator kennedy helped to pass the expansion. i was wondering what role "the nation" can play in helping to support the program. >> we've done a lot of work around expanding doctors into rural community centers. americorps is a good program. all of those should be supported. we have not done as much. there has been controversy at the magazine. i am more of a supporter of teach for america than my colleagues. they are good programs. >> what could we do collectively as the next up for occupy wall street? -- next step for occupy wall street? >> what is your main interest in the issues raised by occupy wall street? if it is money and politics, you should join with those who are occupying the supreme court, fighting in states for clean money reform, and fighting for an amendment strategy to overturn the citizens united decision, and fighting in elections to change the supreme court. >> what would you think of having a national general assemb

marco rubio is a tea party. raul who is on the house working group a tea party.urter of texas. >> chris: you know somebody is going to -- >> leaders do things because they are important not because they guarantee them 100% acceptance. >> winning the nomination is not enough. this may complicate the nominating process if he runs but makes him a more attractive candidate for people looking for problem solving and bipartisanship. >> the key is to make sure that there is no federal benefits given and regular order and everyone is part of the process and as you pointed out you don't let chuck schumer start cut deals because he wants to be major leaders. >> and congress needs this win and our country had toes this bipartisan win. >> chris: 30 second is left. senator brown there is talk that you might make a senate run again in 2014. but not in massachusetts, in new hampshire. why new hampshire? >> i'm not going to comment on that obviously. i think it is important to continue to do my job here and challenge people to do things better. >> chris: but you you did say noth

we need marco rubio in the room because without him he needs to have the conservative tea party. >> and that's the next phase of this that there's a couple of members of the house raul labrador is from what i can tell the real leader from the tea parties. all of them are washingtonning what he's doing. i think they're willing to talk about it much the same way that marco rubio is. there are secret but they are as secret as anything in washington. >> how does this go from talks to legislation? >> a couple of things that that i'm not quite sure. one is what kind of border security benchmarks to do you need in order to allow the rest of the process to go forward? and when are they put in place. this is something that you can negotiate it by degrees. >> certain things happen. >> right. so there's a border security element to that. the other thing that has not been resolved and this is the place where unions and business are negotiating it. what are the overall numbers? how many new immigrants can we accept into the country on any given year? what they're talking about having some sort of ec

>> the leadership lost. >> bill: right and the tea party won.'t see how you can deny that. >> i think that that is fair. >> bill: yeah. >> but the question of who is in charge is i think -- i -- i just think it's fair to say that in times where votes have been needed, whether it's to keep the government open or keep our country from going into default john fugelsang has been able to muster enough votes at the end with democratic help to do all of those things, so there has never been a lapse in that regard. >> bill: there is a key phrase with democratic help. >> sure. >> bill: we have more to talk about, in fact -- one member at least of the senate is showing that her poll numbers went down after she voted against those background checks. what does that say about the others? we'll get into that and take your calls at 866-55-press. >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." ♪ the sweatshirt is nice and all but i could use a golden lasso. (vo) only on current tv. converstion started next. >> i'm a slutty bob hope. >> you are. >> the troops love

i don't think this has the emotional resonance for tea party people that some other things do.k lugar saying one nice thing about barack obama does, you know, you can be for pork barrel defense spending but you can't say one nice thing for barack obama or vote for one of his judges. i don't see this as quite as a hot button thing for the tea party voters. >> john: i would be you'rous to see what ron paul has to say about it. michael tomasky, welcome on the show. >> thank you. >> john: jason collins is the first athlete to come out of the closet. wade davis talks about this coming up next. hershey's simple pleasures chocolate. 30% less fat, 100% delicious. (vo) later tonight current tv is the place for compelling true stories. >> jack, how old are you? >> nine. >> this is what 27 tons of marijuana looks like. (vo) with award winning documentaries that take you inside the headlines, way (vo) from the underworld, to the world of privilege. >> everyone in michael jackson's life was out to use him. (vo) no one brings you more documentaries that are real, gripping, current. i think t

i want to go back to the tea party patriots. a different kind of special interest given away all together. this is a situation in which a company is given the ability to ignore court orders in what boils down to a deregulation scheme for a particular set of industries. now you know it's controversial when you got conservatives complaining about deregulation. that's how bad it is. okay. now, ben you look at this, and i mean, i keep trying to--there is no excuse for this. am i seeing it the wrong way? how did i think what is obama doing? why? >> we were talking about this in the morning meeting. this is such a huge win for whoever we thought of as conservatives, old school corporatists may an better word who fought years and years the chamber of congress, in every big business of this country. they fought tort reform. any business who could fight litigation. this is your way of getting tort reform. this sudden idea of hey let's get immunity and put it in congressional legislation. then we get it done. >> that's exactly right. i re

they don't want the tea party to back them into a corner. >> that's exactly right.eaks to gerrymandering. the house is incredibly gerrymandered. whether it's immigration, gun control or any other issue people have to understand that part of the problem is that gerrymandering. here's how it works. if republicans as they have, draw the line so that many republicans in the house are representing districts with the winner of the republican primary as the winner of the general election that means the political motivation for so many republican house members is to prevent gun control pro nra candidate running to their right, and anti-immigrant challenge running against them in the primary. mike is right the whole hastur rule that's the fundamental question or one of the fundamental questions on immigration rejerome. >> john: and michael republicans just blocked the dream act a couple of years ago. were it not the changing demographics in america would we have seen anything like this, a compromise coming from the right? >> no, this is an attempt you know to maintain politi

you talk about the tea party, but it also gave rise to these two political reforms which i talked about explain that. >> they are kind of wonky but they are really significant in california. one allows the top two finishers, whether they are republicans or democrats, whoever finishes the first two goes on to the general election so it creates competition on both sides. the other one is the redistricting, where, you know, the political lines are drawn not by politicians behind closed doors in sacramento or whatever state capital there is but it is drawn by a citizen's panel. >> michael: but how did that come out of the recall. >> that's one thing schwarzenegger -- he was an outsider, he was from the political outside. he talked about these issues and he -- there was sort of a heat generated by them that he championed them, and also the electorate was sort of ripe for these type of changes. they said we can change the system we can boot our governor out and make some real change. and these two changes down the road they will be mimicked nationally because they are making change here. >> m

. >> this is a man who was a hero to the tea party, who essentially helped create the tea party and on this issue he's facing an onslaught to the right. >> he seems to have decided to actually back immigration reform. >> yes, and aggressively. they are fighting every single one of these charges. as one of rubio's aide said today, as far as they're concerned no blog is too small to answer. >> ifill: is the president's strategy, no more bipartisan dinner stuff, let me stick with what i can get through by democrats. >> they know what their strategy is. they've done the outside game. they've done the inside game. nothing is working right now. >> ifill: like the picture of them sitting around waiting to see what happens next. >> exactly. >> ifill: we're also waiting to see what happens next about the story in boston tonight but it have to be online. you can join us at 8:30 p.m. for the "washington week extra "streamed live. we'll talk about the riens scare, and mark sanford-- yes, that happened this week, too. keep up online on newshoured.pbs.org. on our web site you can find my commentary

here to build others and last november a group of amazing leaders had of occupy little rock the tea party young americans for liberty greens libertarians a dependent sioux name it republicans came out to host and rally it was covered by all the local media in little rock and now it's these leaders on the ground who are going to be hosting the united we stand fast civil and little rock arkansas the rising arena seventeen thousand people this venue holds on june twenty second from six to ten pm and the amount of people that are confirming ralph nader is confirmed to participate michael donna artistic hollywood producer of pirates of the caribbean got a six second sees our producer for the event as well as marcey for grave with a.d.m. who helped produce our producer larry king debate golden state and american idol the ron paul bomb song joran page musician the list goes on and on tatyana more. tali elisabet i'm a zero amber lyon dan johnson larry pratt the president of gun our america really sounds like you've got a whole host of people coming in to. your name to actually had here on the sho