the tea party is separate and independent from the republican party. they are unfettered. reagan when he ran for president in 1976 talk about we need new leadership. he ran against the entire list establishment of the republican party. the ford wing of the party, the rockefeller ring of the party. you remember 1976 rockefeller was vice president of the united states. the nixon wing of the party the entire establishment and only two u.s. senators supported reagan when he ran in 76 and 80. he said we need new leadership, leadership unfettered by old times of old relationships. the tea party is unfettered with old relationships. i spoke in dallas a few years ago to about 125, 150 tea party leaders from around the country who gathered for a weekend of training. i was there friday night keynote speaker. i met with a dozen or so in my hotel room before the speeches. i remember there was a woman from corpus christi texas who said that they regularly have meetings of tea party. they had a group of 3000 members and their tea party in the local politicians would call and say we want

we're going to see in two thousand and sixteen there are people who will argue right now that the tea party has already pushed the republican party so far to the right that they've been forced to mainstream republicans or have adopted a tea party agenda so we'll have to see who who who floats to the top in two thousand and sixteen but it's going to be really hard to say is it going to be michele bachmann who so closely identify with the tea party movement i doubt it well what i mean is can the tea party elect a president. well what i'm saying is is. they can rally voters support but one of the reason one of the ways that this money they spend including the money it's the same money that backs the tea party they get spent on elections one of the ways that this impacts elections is it narrows it pushes candidates off of their own agenda to adopt another agenda because they don't want to face that big money juggernaut. and so you know we may very well elect somebody who appears to be a mainstream republican but they've been forced to adopt a tea party agenda so you know i don't know we'll see

when i think of the original tea party, i am reminded of renegades, frustrated by government interference who dumped tea into the harbor. they could not have known their demonstration would become the inspiration for a similar movement hundreds of years later. i also imagine they would never guess that a savvy businesswoman and mother of two would be leading the charge. jenny beth martin is a political strategist who, in 2009, responded to the call for a new kind of party. frustrated by the unprecedented expansion of government, she is fully committed to the grassroots movement and today is the tea party cofounder. she is the national coordinator for the crusade, and is tirelessly working toward a return to conservatism. named one of time magazine's most influential leaders, she oversees nearly 2000 affiliates and more than 15 million members, in addition to chairing the tea party patriots citizens fund. she is also a frequent guest on every major television, print, and online news outlet in the country. when jenny beth was not busy shaping the movement, she from menut everything plans to

ben a truce between the rhinos and the tea party. s" and the tea party. two sisters came up to me after the summit, the simon's sister. words out of their mouth for that they are loving the program. right after that, john, don't ever let the establishment takeover the western conservative summit. you have to keep away from those "rinos." so there it is in a nutshell. one approach is conciliation. the other approach is polarization. let's get started with guy benson. who is winning the fight on the right? ,stablishment versus tea party drug legalizers versus drug enforcers, foreign affairs and national security hawks versus .oninterventionists who is winning, and are we hurting ourselves more than we are hurting the enemy? >> thanks for having me back. i heard this is a record-breaking year for the summit, so thank you all for being here. john and his team put on a tremendous event. all of us do a lot of conferences over the course of any given year, and the western conservative summit is one i'm always looking forward to. it is a loaded question that john

on immigration, gop starts to embrace tea party. nathan reports to the most hard line anti-immigration voices in the party, got something close to the equivalent of final cut on two bills addressing the flood of migrant children at the border. wiseman concludes quote on capital hill tea party wing continues to drive the tea party agenda. steven and michele bachmann tweeted this photo. at the time king told reporters about the reworked bill quote the changes brought into this are ones i've developed and advocated for past two years. like i ordered it off the menu. yes, the same steve king in the past talked about immigrant with quote calves the size of cantaloupes from hauling drugs across the border. other voices on the right with outside influence, brooks, launching a war on whites, advocating a deport them all position on illegal immigrant. these are not exactly the faces the party wants to showcase to help make inroads in hispanic community and yet, there they are leading the charge in congress. host of the reid report here on msn

is the tea party winning from this? absolutely not. the only people who could be winning politically are the left on this. one of the things we have to do as conservatives is win. thuiis is a war for the heart ad soul of the republican party. a third party will not cut it. you will just dilute it to the point that we will never win elections again. we conservatives have to win this fight for the heart and souls of the republican party, and that is our mission. it is that simple. [applause] >> well said. fourth point of view from the panel. mary katharine hamm was with us when the summit was just getting started back in 2011. skype lasth us via year. westernt official conservative summit baby got into this world. at home now with dad, 11 months old. i'm glad you're with us in person. who is winning the fight on the right? >> thank you for having me. thank you for allowing me to skype in last year. i would have brought in my daughter, but frankly she is a lot more quiet -- was a lot more quiet last year than now. it is an honor to be wit

completely shut out the tea party. >> kerry, in kansas, incumbents pat roberts defeating his tea party challenger milton wolf and then in tennessee, lamar alexander beat joe carr plus a host of other folks. right now the establishment is undefeated against the tea party. >> includes races with mitch mcconnell, the senate minority leader held off a challenge from matt bevin and in mississippi thad cochran lasted against his challenger. >> one other take away, the republican party divided both pat roberts and lamar alexander less than 50% of the vote. issues like immigration were

the tea party express today us the following. "propublica creates a false impression that there is an inappropriate relationship between move america forward and tea party express. it strings together unrelated facts and then implies there is something wrong. we are quite careful of keeping and complying with all appropriate state and federal election and tax laws." joining us now is kim barker, reporter from "the new york times" who wrote about move america forward for propublica. kim, thanks for joining us. it's really an extraordinary story. >> thank you. >> so i'm just curious, take people through what the status is right now. so you found the $2.3 million out of the $8 million or so -- >> it wasn't exactly hard to find. it was in their 990s, their tax return. >> just sitting there. has anything happened now as a result? >> not so far. regulatory agencies are pretty slow-moving beasts. we've seen that with the irs and a.g.'s offices across the country that don't exactly read a story in the newspaper or online and say, okay, w

facingnt pat roberts is tea party challenger milton wolf, a physician and distant cousin of president obama. we will bring you the victory and concession speeches from that race later tonight. tea partyrks from cofounder jenny beth martin at western conservative summit. topics include health care, immigration, and race in america. >> thank you, senator andrews. how is everyone doing? isn't this an amazing event? theerday, after all of events, i was reflecting on the tea party. when those patriots initiate of their principled protest, they could not have known their demonstration would become the inspiration for a similar movement hundreds of years later. i also imagine they would never guess that a savvy businesswoman and mother of two would be leading the charge. jenny beth martin is a political strategist who, in 2009, responded to the call for a new kind of party. frustrated by the unprecedented , she isn of government held today as the tea party cofounder. any beth is now the national coordinator for the crusade, and is tirelessly working toward a return to conservatism. named one

tea party matter very dangerous. this could be the vehicle to go to court on the issue of whether citizens united overturning the ban on corporate spending applies to tax exempt rules. counsel and judy kindell need to be on this one please. crinecy should probably not -- cincy should probably not -- all have these cases. what did you mean by cincy shouldn't have these cases? >> on the advice of counsel i respectfully exercise my fifth amendment right and decline to answer the question. >> ms. lerner, why would you say tea party cases were dangerous. >> on the advice of counsel i respectfully invoke my fifth amendment right and decline to answer that question. >> ms. lerner, you emailed your subordinates about initiating a, parenthesis c-4 project and wrote, we need to be cautious so that it isn't a per se political project. why were you worried about this being perceived as a political project? >> on the advice of my counsel i respectfully inters my fifth amendment right and decline to answer that question. >> ms. le

now, the establishment is blaming the tea party. the tea party's blaming the establishment. >> i think politically, analytically, where we are. barack obama is unpopular. that means republicans do well in november 2014. >> despite themselves? >> despite themselves, but if they take the message from that that all is well with the republican party, they're crazy. the republican brand is very much damaged. >> why is it so unpopular? bill, why -- >> that's why you need to be a reformed republican. a populace, an agent of change, all of that stuff. >> why is the republican party -- who do you blame for that 19% number from the "wall street journal," nbc news/"wall street journal" poll? >> look, a two term president that fairly on unfairly leaves office with 35%, even that? >> no. >> approval rating? 29%? a republican president. greatest fiscal financial crisis happens on his watch. you then have a lot of internal republican fighting on the hill, which people see and whichever side you're on you get disgruntled. an established moderate, lunatics are taking over the republican part

. >>> a tea party revolt humili e humiliates the house republican leadership again. the speaker john boehner insists the gop is not to blame. >> i'm not going to accept responsibility for the fact the united states senate can't act. >> listen to house members when they're told they have to work one more day on the border crisis before a five-week paid vacation. washington is so broken the president can only joke about ways to cut deals with congress. >> i'll go to them. i'll wash their car. walk their dog. >>> plus if the two parties agree on one thing, it is this -- there is a fund-raising gold mine threatening to sue the president. >> that money coming in is practically spontaneous. people are very upset. >> "inside politics," the biggest stories sourced by the best reporters, now. >>> welcome to "inside politics." i'm john king. thanks for sharing your sunday morning. with us to share their reporting and insights, john than martin, mike allen, robert costa of "the washington post" and nia-malika henderson of "the washington post." the tea party had one big win at

and the tea party still said no. so as this was all playing out this afternoon, republicans faced a wave of reports about what exactly had gone wrong. "daily beast" reporter tim mack said that boehner told his members they were, quote, not even close to having the 218 votes that they needed. lots of finger pointed at tea party senator ted cruz no encouraged house republicans to defy boehner and force the government shutdown last fall and who many believe stoked another rebellion here. although cruz tonight apparently denied that to robert costa of the "washington post." fox news suggested maybe alabama senator jeff sessions could shoot away support for house members in his state, and mississippi. alabama congressman spencer b k baucus said, no way. jeff sessions telling him what to do on this. >> we can't worry about what one senator wants, even if it's -- i have great respect for jeff. he's my senator. but i don't tell jeff how to vote. >> do you think that -- >> dave weigel of "slate" says the problem for speaker b

and then trouncing the tea party rival by 3-1 margin. mitch mcconnell, the tea party backed from kentucky weekly controversy. in south carolina, lindsey graham faced six republican rivals, the busy we split up the vote and beat them by more than 40 points. in kansas, pat roberts got a big scare winning the primary. the mississippi the rivals still trying to get the results of the race overturned. that is 7% of the candidates have win a lot of open seas like nebraska, oregon, so they have been contributing winners but have not been able to knock off the incumbents. heather: thank you, carl pitt jon: to americans continue to improve after contracting ebol ebola. what they're doing to keep the largest recorded out rake from spreading further. new fighting on the gaza strip as hamas hits a cease-fire with new rocket attacks on israel. the latest in a live report from the israel-gaza border. plus as a pentagon announces new airstrikes in iraq launch on the george h to be bush, one military sources telling fox news about how the attack is chan

his remarks he used specifically to send a message to republican party, tea party rebels, insurgents ing trouble for washington incumbents. >>> republicans in kansas and nationally can not afford the kind of intra-party frat at that side we've seen recently. friends, we can't afford to waste scarce resources and energy tearing ourselves apart. we can not afford a fractured party. the stakes are just too high. >> reporter: of course the stakes he says are blocking the obama agenda. very, very tough race and it has been awful lot of republican incumbents faced tea party challenges. not one incumbents in the u.s. senate were defeated this year. one lore left, lamar alexander in tennessee and he is leading polls. yesterday even before polls closed in kansas and mr. wolf was prepared to unify defense the establishment incumbent he had been bashing last few months, listen. >> it is important we as republicans unite. we have a president and this white house who is destroying our country with his policies. it is important the republicans take that senate. >> reporter: so the tea party may hav

you can't call it a tea party thing. it is different than michigan in the past. >> wanting much of what they are losing in the race, no matter the politics, they are losing committee time and longivity in the congress with what is going on in michigan. and they are not people who are not long- time incumbents that the voters want to see retired. dave camden leaving and congressman mike rogers and chairman of the house intelligence committee, they are very respected republicans in the congress on both sides of the aisle and senate carl levin retiring and michigan is losing a lot of experience and from members they did not want to see go. >> ab and jonna thank you. >> you think the tea party will make inroads this primary season? yes, no. and click on america's asking and get in on the conversation. >> new york yankee star alex rodriguez currently in the middle of a suspension for using steroids and now the man accused of supplying him drugs is turning himself in to federal law enforcement. eight others are in custody incl

is this the last for the tea party? is lamar alexander the compromising moderate gop candidate? if he prevails in this, is this kind of not a particularly happy occurrence for the tea party remapped. >> that is right, and i think that we have seen stunning losses are with tea party candidates going by the wayside. with establishing candidates maintaining their victories. and i think that we will see it again in tennessee and i think it's actually incorrect to try to equate this race to the virginia race because it's all about eric cantor and whether or not he performed well you can tell that by the turnout of republicans and the fact is that people that previously supported this didn't come out. but this is a winner take all primary, it's a simple majority will take this race and lamar alexander has been a good steward of his leadership and i think at the end of the day they will reward bad by giving a primary victory. ashley: it seems like lamar alexander has been around forever and then he was secretary of education many moons ago. so is this okay for true conservatives? >> i

the tea party generally as far as i can see it is within the republican party that's right.hey are fighting primaries within the republican party. where is you call it the feeling of a candidacy, a separate party area very lonely in the korea development. it could end up being a party challenging. if the more the case the republican party would have serious a problem. instead of contesting primaries he would have the democrats, the republicans, and the kind of tea party representative. and you have had with ross perot, very much a similar situation where the third party killed push in 92 which is the danger. and i talked about the political class. >> i have done other things. kahan. >> i think it's quite an unhealthy thing you have professional politicians. i think you need to have politicians with a wider perspective which is always agree strength believe it withdrew. he heard of workers, the mid-20s century, people like winston churchill, an eccentric characters, people from different walks of life, the professions. and then added to the diversity and variety. he did not h

this week marks the end of what has been an intense battle inside the republican party between the tea party wing and the establishment wing. the total for that battle -- 135 million dollars. that is what we totaled. an immense amount of money that really split the party in two. the key question has been throughout, who will be the winners coming out of this? it is a bit of both. on the establishment side, you have the u.s. chamber of commerce, the nra, the super pac's. you have on the tea party side, groups like club for growth and the madison square project. the big winners throughout -- at least on the senate side, appears to be the establishment, with the slate they are bringing to the election, largely the individuals with big money are better than the last three cycles. >> talk to us about democrats. what have they been doing throughout this entire process? everyy are thrilled with single dollar spent against another republican. no question about that. there is some wariness. there is make knowledge that when you talk to democratic operatives in the states and in washington, republican

those counties are the base for lamar alexander's tea party challenger. so can the tea party movement launch a statewide candidate into office? it hasn't happened yet in tennessee. we're going to be watching on thursday if there's any sign it is could. >>> trivia time jackson is the only senator from tennessee to serve on the u.s. supreme court. congratulations to today's winner allen henry. a man with two first names. tip of the day comes from blue in memphis. they're serving up lobster bisque with maine lobster. in memphis? i want barbecue. we'll be right back. completely unbelievabowl... totally delectabowl. real silky smooth or creamy broths. everything she's been waiting for. carefully crafted with real seafood, real veggies, and never any by-products or fillers. wow! being a cat just got more enjoyabowl. fancy feast broths. wow served daily. ♪ ♪ yoplait. it is so good for everyone's midnight cravings. eachwon't have a claim.wners that's why allstate claim free rewards gives you money back for every year you don't have one. and why if you're part of

and the tea party will cost republican votes. perhaps not in 2014, but marginally more in 2016 and increasingly as time goes on. the data is out there. it's very clear for everyone to see that this is a segment that is growing. the classi classic classic insurgently. look no further than in the wake of eric cantor as loss in june they tried to get together a candidate to challenge the more established candidate kevin mccarthy. they couldn't do it. it just fell flat. >> they can be disruptive. >> they're disruptive and they influence what leadership can do. and leadership at this point the best they can do to manage their caucus within the house of representatives is to say wait this out. there is a constitution. there is a president. you're going to have to wait them occupy the best you can do it hold the line until we can get one of our own into the white house. because of all the other issues we're talking about that's becoming more problematic in 6:00. >> it's great to have you here. it's great to have you on the show all the

tea party versus establishment civil war. that has been pitting young, hardline, right-wing tea party obstructionists against older ones. [laughter] it's the subject tonight. a number of primary votes yesterday, foremost among them, kansas. three-term conservative senator -- that's not him -- pat roberts. that's him. he risked defeat at the hands of his own real estate decision. >> "the new york times" revealed he does not have a home address in kansas. >> his voting address in the state is on a country club golf course. >> roberts spent just a total of 97 days in the state of kansas between july 2011 and august 2013. >> jon: 97 days over -- i'm pretty sure there are individual tornadoes that have spent more time in kansas. senator roberts, your defense? >> why don't you live here, though? >> every time i get an abone -- i mean, every time i get chance, i'm home. [audience reacts]. >> jon: truth is i only come to this [bleeped] hole when i have. to wow, that wasn't a freudian slip, that was a freudian stage dive. the only way

cochran's been declared the winner mississippi though tea party rival hopes to have the results reversed. he pulled out with warning. >> all we're asking is that the republican parties fight for the principles that it says it believes in. it's really that simple. and if they do that, we don't have a problem. >> reporter: they're now calling for unity on the right against the left this fall. >> if we work together, conservatives, republicans, independents, local tea party activists, we can fire reid and get this country working. >> reporter: tea partiers have won open seat primaries like on omaha and nebraska. >> carl, thank you. please join me tonight as fox news takes a special look at the impact of obamacare in one of the most independent areas of the country. live free or die centers around the law. >> is the government getting in the way of intervention? >> today what's driving the decision process as to where to put our resources is if we invest some money now, can we reduce the cost of the technology to give people the same level of care that we're doing now. but it's a short-term

country you know the establishment in the republican party has completely been swallowed whole by the tea party and so you know one will try to outright win the next and there's not going to be much difference the only way for jeb bush or any of them to to become their party's nominee is to be so extreme that they become unelectable in the general election you come back to your reserve believe that they . really get a significant legislation before the elections you know we've got ten legislative days when we come back before we adjourn for the elections so this is the do nothing or do nothing congress is because republicans refuse to work with president obama it's so sad larry you know we know that my way or the highway politics isn't moving us forward and there's a reason that congress' approval rating a solo is because republicans refused to work with president obama congressional democrats. it's to just make sure that we can create jobs and get the economy turned around and create more opportunities for people to to reach the middle class instead they see the president for doing his job whe

since the so-called tea party wave of 2011. think that in this case, there were some things that were different about the way the house republican leadership acted. one was they didn't really get rolled as publicly as they have been in the past by these ensurths. they will saw the problem. it was a relatively small number of members that was revolting against what they wanted to do. they will stopped themselves from having a vote that they were going to lose and they met with these people and they figured out a compromise that allowed them to get to their bottom line which was that the house republican leadership wanted really really badly to give their members a bill that they could pass before this august recess because as you are now noting, they're gone for the next five weeks. it would have been awful politics if they had reached an impasse and had to go home for this break, this august recess with nothing. so i think that the leadership, it seeps as though they store the of learned some of the lessons from the last three

self-identified tea party congressman that's kerry -- i'll get it wrong.e's one. he looks likely to lose. he's set up to lose. he was not in a good position. he was an early target and he has gone down. but a bigger prize that the chamber of commerce and other groups were hoping to get was justin amash. they libertarian congressman. he's holding on. that's an interesting race. that's a big victory for tea partiers. >> that's a very crucial race. he's been so outspoken as a younger, newer guy on the hill. but michigan is so interesting because they have a number of seats that will be opened up by both democrats and republicans that have held significant leadership positions. it is interesting to see all of them exiting the house voluntarily at once. >> well, they are leaving, but voluntarily may be too kind of a word for it. maybe just too kind after word for it in the sense that we have reached a moment of generational change in washington and michigan has had a strong long-standing sort of dynasty approach in congress. debbie dingell looks to be in good s

the targeting of the tea party and other groups is disturbing. i am offended that a member of congress -- senate would continue with -- can usually -- that continually request they go after americans like me. governments of third world nations intimidate and harass dissenting citizens. it does not happen in the land of the free until recently. .t is shocking and infuriating most troubling of all, congress has not stopped this. it has gotten worse. during the past eight months, congress had set -- has sat by well the irs attempts to shut us down completely. one of the most sacred rights is freedom of speech. to irs wants to strike out 26 years of history with a keystroke. there not allowed to use words oppose, vote, defeat, or reject. we are not allowed to mention on our website even the name of a candidate who is running 30 days before a primary or 60 days.before a general election . we are not allowed to mention the name of a political party. no more voter registration drives. no more nonpartisan get out the vote rise. no more creating voter gui

is the tea party winning from this? absolutely not. the only people who could be winning politically are the left on this. one of the things we have to do as conservatives is win. thuiis is a war for the heart ad soul of the republican party. a third party will not cut it. you will just dilute it to the point that we will never win elections again. we conservatives have to win this fight for the heart and souls of the republican party, and that is our mission. it is that simple. [applause] >> well said. fourth point of view from the panel. mary katharine hamm was with us when the summit was just getting started back in 2011. skype lasth us via year. westernt official conservative summit baby got into this world. at home now with dad, 11 months old. i'm glad you're with us in person. who is winning the fight on the right? >> thank you for having me. thank you for allowing me to skype in last year. i would have brought in my daughter, but frankly she is a lot more quiet -- was a lot more quiet last year than now. it is an honor to be wit

first, tea party groups. in february, the founder of the alabama tea party testified before a house subcommittee that they were targeted by the irs after filing for tax exempt status. this portion of the hearing is about an hour. >> good morning. my name is catherine. i'm the chairman of a nonprofit organization. thank you for the opportunity to share my story. at the outset, it must be said that it is a story with the central theme that is shared by countless of thousands of other americans who have not yet heard from, though i pray they will be. citizens just like me are being targeted right administration willing to take any action necessary to silence opposition. i am an average american who prior to 2009 had never been active in the processes of government. but after volunteering to work in the polls in 2009, i saw procedural problems. mr. they group that grew into a national movement. my life before getting involved and spoke out for the government stands in contrast to the life i now lead. as a small b

does that mean the tea party essentially dragged the republican party to the right? >> it means a lot david. in fact we're not ready to give our party away, says the republicans, to the far right. we tried with christine o'donnell and richard murphy and the ill-fated candidate of todd aiken in missouri. their party are responding, let's put in the safe bet, lamar alexander considered now a moderate republican when swunt he was a conservative republican. i think it does matter in that sense. one interesting fact is saturday is primary day in hawaii. it turns out the only governor who is going to be unseated by a primary is on saturday in hawaii. >> one of the weirdest victory speeches on sunday, justin amasc arab american, often accused united states national security agency, al qaeda's best friend, part of amash victory speech. >> to brian ellis you owe my family and this community an apology. [cheering and applause] >> for your disgusting despicable spear campaign. >> amash also took a shot at pete hokstra who tried to help ellis. listen to this. >> i want to say to

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