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have managed their defining principle of the rejection of racial victim ologies and the ability to teactudents to be proud of their heritage because it is worthy o that pride. >> i've got to say, and i share your instincts, it's crazy, get out, but the public schools wer designed in part to unite the country to share an experience that every kid has and it's where we pass on ours have a country of shared values, so, i normal people or people have th means get out, you really do have a permanently divided country. isn't our goal unity? isn't that what i want the gold to be anyway? could get you have to track persuasion but if that doesn't work, you've got to use exit. what it's going to take again, the fundamental idea driving virtually all politics today is that racism defines everything you see about american society. we turnip alternative excellent nations that are tough to articulate but must be said. as long as bias remains the onl legislation for disparities, th left wins. >> i like the martin luther kin goal which was colorblind meritocracy. how hard would it be to return to that?

so listen, i think we've obviously had a lot of focus on teac teachers and teachers unions, but a lot of parents also very reluctant. here in d.c., a lot of parents reluctant to send their kids back to school, even though the schools are open. >> good point. one other issue that came up was student loan forgiveness. you heard a different tone, i would say, nia-malika, when someone was saying, she desperately needs help with that, it wasn't necessarily that he led with compassion. here was his response. >> we need student loan forgiveness beyond the potential $10,000 your administration has proposed. we need at least a $50,000 minimum. what will you do to make that happen? >> i will not make that happen. it depends on whether or not you go to a private university or public university. here's what i think. i think every one and i've been proposing this for four years, everyone should be able to go to community college for free. for free. that costs $9 billion. and we should pay for it. >> what'd you near that response, nia-malika? >> well, listen, progressives are not going to be happy