not just about the teacher's union. > i'd draw a distinction between teacher and teacher union. what say you? >> i agree. many years ago, there was a story about the national education association which is the big teacher's union. unfortunately, nothing has really changed. teachers unions are against the pro-children, pro-kids, pro-education things. against merit pay and charter schools and against vouchers. they want to keep the teachers with the longest tenure, not the ones that are good. if you look at the facebook millionaire claimed to give $1 million. the graduation rates are abomination. strongest union in new jersey. >> stephane? >> unions aren't the heroes, that's for sure. i don'the they're the problem -- i don't think they're the problem. teachers in canada and top-performing areas are unionized. editors at the "wall street journal" is unionized. the thing about it, successful parent produce successful children. if you want to make schools better, maybe we should try to focus on giving parents a better chance

mayoral nominee, in the democratic primary last tuesday, thanks in large part to the support of the teacher's uniontenure more than 200 underperforming teachers have been fired and almost 20 failing schools, and teacher's pay tied to merit valuations and the face of education reform figures in a documentary called waiting for superman produced by david guggenheim, the academy award director of al gore's global warming documentary, "an inconvenient truth", takes a devastating look inside america's public school system. >> it's about 60,000 people have gone to the school and 40,000 didn't graduate. this is the damage that the school has done in this neighborhood. a child that doesn't finish high school will earn less than about eight times more likely to go to prison. for these kids the only chance for getting a great school depends whether their number is picked in a lottery. >> so they don't get it, is there another chance. >> no. >> paul: wall street journal columnist, and jason join me with me. bill, you and i have been making the arguments over education reform for years. what is this significan

in the democratic primary thanks in large part to the support of the teacher's union, 200 under performing fired. 20 failing schools, closed and teacher pay tied to merit evaluations. read has become the national face of education reform figures in a new documentary opening this weekend called waiting for superman produced by david guggenheim, the director of al gore's documentary, the film takes a devastating look inside america's public school system. >> there is about 60,000 students have gone here in 40 years, 40,000 did not graduate. >> a child that doesn't finish high school will earn less, and be eight times more likely to go to prison. >> i want to go to school. >> for these kids the only chance of getting into a great school depends on whether their number is picked in a lottery. >> so if they don't get in, is there another chance? >> no. >> bill mcgern and jason riley join me with more. you and i have been making these arguments for something like 30 years. why is this film significant? >> this film is significant because it comes from a liberal. and the way he talks about public

teacher union leader and d.c. school chancellor and star player in the film waiting for super man, michelle reed. secretary of education, arnie duncan. from the bill and melinda gates foundation. >> in the south bronx, my kid who is don't speak english need an extra vocabulary and phonics block. i need extra time to do test prep, but we have a union contract who said the school day is from 8:20 to 3:30. >> live in new york for education nation. the united states wants a world leader in public education and it's now failing our children. of the world's 34 developed economies, american students ranked 24th in math, 17th in science, 10th in literacy. the public knows this all too well. in the "wall street journal" poll, an astounding 77%, more than 3/4 of the question give our schools a c, d, or an f grade. the man with a daunting challenge is here with me now. education secretary arnie duncan. for for participating in the conversations for education nation. as the key leader, you are showing us the way. let's talk a

this is where competition comes in with the teachers' union. it is not anti-union. it is pro-innovation. if something is not working, let's change something. so what did they do? they do longer school days and longer school years. this is not revolution. this is not making some be a bad guy. this is how you fix this system. -- making somebody a bad guy. this is how you fix the system. >> i am assuming you are a lefty. i am a member of a great union, the directors guild of america. when workers organize and america, it was a wonderful thing. i believe the teachers' union should be around for a very long time. they should make sure their workers get paid a lot of money and they should protect them from abuse. but they should not get in the way of reform. they should not be fighting in politics, trying to keep charters down and keeping the school day shorter and protecting that teachers. when you talk to parents, they do not care if the school is called charter or bangor a district school. they just want a great school. tavis: it does create good guys and bad guys in t

the unions are starting to listen. a lot of the great teachers that are union teachers want to work with other great teachers. i think there has been a lot of noise and there has been a lot of political dogma, what is working with the pragmatists that say i will do whatever it takes to make sure that these kids learn. that is what is working and we need to look at examples and try and replicate them. >> what did you think about cristie's remarks. nevertheless disappointed so far with the outcomes produced. >> i think t is good to be tough. you have this unprecedented money being given right now. there is so much energy around the education debate and if you pledge to see your movie you get five toll larenta dollars o spend in a classroom. if you are mark zuckerberg and happen to be able to give $100 million to a city for incubation and new ideas that is a good thing. >> so why question the motive. the kids will benefit in the long run. >> i think all of us should be caring about education. even if you are out of school, who are going to be our do

so have teachers unions don some things that are not helpful to reform? absolutely. >> rose: not letting you fire bad teachers, that kind of thing. >> that's true. have teachers unions also been at the table to do the right thick? absolutely. so it's a matter of saying here's the table for reform. if you're here for kids, sit around the table and we can do these things together. and i think race to the top proves that that can be done. >> rose: charter schools? >> absolutely. we believe that within the public school system there has to be choice and there has to be innovation. in fact, charter schools-- this goes back to your other question-- from the beginning there have been union leaders who have been supporters of charter schools. so it isn't just tension there. >> rose: but there are also people who will argue today that, you know, on close examination, you've got to make sure that charter schools are delivering on the promise that they're making. >> right. >> rose: and what are the results of that so far? >> right. unquestionably. so traditional publ

the criticism is it leans against teachers' unions and toward charter schools where the teachers' unions teachers' unions. >> not in the least. in fact, until the teachers' unions give an international policy for what they've done to our children, until they stand up and take full responsibility for the circumstances that they and they alone have created in our schools, the tenuous relationships between administration and educators and parents, until they stop blaming the parents and the community and stop asking for more money, we can't blame them enough. >> you know, unfortunately we don't have any teachers' union representative here, so i've got play devil's advocate. it tess's the teachers who make up the teacher ss union. >> the catholic church is made up of priests. not everybody who does a job is necessarily good at their job. what has to happen is principals and administrators have to start taking full responsibility for what happens in our schools. they have to work harder and harder to weed out the people who are not good hat their job. i was at syracuse university and i had an

>> i think the other side to look at, too, is we're focusing on teachers and unions. friends of mine who are teachers, they say i can do all the work i can in this eight and nine-hour day and when they go home, a lot of the work is undone. this is a big bigger problem than we're focusing on. >> i've been working with a little school in the south bronx, i won't single it out. it's an elementary school. the wonderful public school administrators and teachers that are doing heroic work, really. but the entire neighborhood are single parents. the mothers are working two jobs. they have one young man who says we haven't gotten a note from your mother about the school lunch program. it turns out he had been living by himself at the age of 9. she farmed him out to the grandmother. they didn't turn her in. they found a way to work with her to make it happen. that's also part of the reality. the fact of the matter is it's going to require the best efforts of everybody. birn said to me when i was talking about the legacy of the baby boomer generation, you know, the boomers are

have a reform agenda that really works and really makes a difference, he will have to take the teachers' unions on at least in part. he doesn't have to disagree with them on everything, but he has to make them hurt at least a little. >> reporter: areas where the unions have fought the president's agenda include the race-to--the-top program this n which the states compete for federal dollars for their own reform programs, using student test scores to evaluate teachers, even to set their pay, and firing teachers for poor performance. the head of the national education association, whose 3.2 million members make it the largest union in america, down played the difference and said he agrees with the president that the status quo is unacceptable. >> we support rigorous and fair evaluation systems. i can tell you educators don't want incompetent or ineffective teachers in the classroom. >> reporter: some advocates of education reform are urging the president to compromise with republicans if they take control of the house next year. you can bet that if he does that, his relations with the teachers un

talk about unions and how they're working with teachers to achieve what you'd like to achieve. >> wellink ultimately, you know unions cropped up initially to represent, as you say, the interests of some of the most fundamental people in the picture, our teachers. i think what's happens is we've got a deeply systemic problem here where, as i mentioned, kids face extra challenges and they're showing up at school systems that arguably haven't had the mission historically of putting kids who face extra challenges on a level playing field. so we've got to move beyond blaming any one group in the system. i think what we're seeing in some communities is evidence of everyone coming together, school administrations, principals, teachers, teachers' unions and saying what do we need to do together to create essentially a new, redefined system that does meet neat need of all of the kids. >> remove constraints, stay positive is your message? >> yes. >> wendy kopp, thanks. >>> they're republican and they're proud. now they're raising aawareness for gay rights but the group's main focus, the economy.

the unions exist to protect jobs for teachers, whether those teachers are competent or no. t unions do. that's their mission. but it's not the same as educating kids. martha: yesterday, why not just judge teachers the way the rest of us are judged by our employ respect -- by our employers. tucker karl kohn, i appreciate you being this and i know you care a lot about it. bill: you liked the movie, huh? >> martha: what we've seen of it so far. he'd love to listen to the whole thing. we have the clips and trailers which looks promising. i'm anxious to see the whole thing. bill: a checko f wall street now, we doing? must be getting fired. -- must be tired. martha: don't wear out, bulls, keep going! >> bill: up almost 30 points. eleven minutes into the trading day there on wall street. >>> we are minutes away from finding out whether or not our country is considered safer now than before 9/11. a new report is out at the top of the hour. don't miss this. and we will learn in this report what the new threat is today. martha: know what today is? today is six months sin the health ca

yo younger teachers saying the union protects me enough. fabulous exchange. >> it was. >> those teachers shared, there were teachers in the audience who agreed more with you than they might agree with someone else. and then there were teachers who were very protective of the union as you might expect but i think those two hours illuminated -- >> i hope you were joking about me being a union barber. i'm absolutely not but i don't think you can go up to harlem or the south bronx or you're working in a school, especially, though, in new york where we have charters, public charters that work and you have unions that are placing caps on it and seeing kids trapped in the south bronx and harlem and brooklyn. i don't know how you don't look at that situation and say, it's immoral. >> well, the unions aren't controlling the outcomes here. now, they have a concern that is legitimate which is -- this is a historic concern and all educational systems is where are the resources going? we used to see resources distributed in this country in many ways acco

in most places unions and school boards negotiate how teachers will be assessed. but not in washington, d.c. in 1997 the city council gave the chancellor full control over evaluations with no oversight from the union. >> this evaluation instrument has created the highest level of fear i've ever seen among teachers anywhere. >> reporter: fear of? >> fear of being targeted for elimination unjustly. >> reporter: across the country most public school teachers are observed by their principal or assistant principal once or twice a year. nearly every teacher receives at least a satisfactory rating. but in rhee's system every teacher is observed five times a year, three times by an administrator, twice by a master educator. those evaluations combined with student test scores result in a final rating. >> we've added more objectivity to this process not only than we had before but i would argue that exists anywhere across the country. >> i think we are all.... >> reporter: special education teacher matt nagy that impact's unannounced observations have improved his classroom

one thing that people have been talking about is teachers' unions.er, just to put it to you bluntly, are teachers' unions an obstacle? >> in delaware they were a partner. i don't think we would have got here without them. part of the advantage is this application we put together not just done for race to the top. it was part of a package started many, many months before race to the top came to the fore. we had teachers at the table, including leadership of the teacher's union and difficult times ahead and partners in a broad plan. >> corey booker of newark, the reason to receive this $100 million pledge from the founder of facebook, he was looking, he was actually going around the country looking for a wealthy philanthropist to give them money. to give the school system money. is this the road that school systems -- do you see yourself as a former, you're a former mayor, do you feel like that's what you would tell mayors to do, find private money at this point? >> i don't think so. i think that private money can be really important in being able to d

street journal" poll shows where people put the blame. 53% blame-elected officials and 41% site teacher's unions president obama whether he sees teacher's unions as a problem. >> i'm a strong supporter of the notion that a union can protect members and sometimes that means they are resistant to change when things are not working. >> the president of the 3.2 member of the national education association. the president said look. if you have a third of your students dropping out, you can't go in and defend the status quo. do you think that's what unions do? >> i totally agree with the president. we should not accept the status quo. one third of our students or 25% or so don't graduate. we need to change that. >> you pointed out cases where unions are working with school districts to try to overhaul the school systems. how is that working. >> excellent. i can name where they are working with officials. the administration, school board and they sit downing to and reach out and say together, let's decide how to change this for students in our district. >> there is a documentary out wait figure are sup

where the teacher's union spent heavily in the effort to defeat a incumbent mayor who fired hundreds of teachers for failing to meet his grade. and house democrats are back from summer vacation, and they are nervous, big time. tonight, the first big meeting together and among the challenges of speaker nancy pelosi, trying to get big debates on tax cuts. you can see a packed hour ahead and a smart team to break down the big races and the lessons as the primary season winds down and we shift to the final weeks of campaign 2010. let's begin with the stunning updates in delaware. mike castle, nine times relekted to the house of representatives and when he decided to run for the seat held by joe biden, they were ecstatic thinking they could take a seat held for four decades by democrats, but now a tea party challenger has mike castle on the roeps. he says that christy o'donnell from the tea party cannot win in november. listen to this interview. >> i am convinced that she does not have the ability to carry a general election in the state of delaware, so, yes, it would have the effect of cl

but i think that the teachers unions in many ways has just been like a union on steroids. >> very interestingerican federation of teachers. despite guggenheim, the person who made the film, intentions, the film is inaccurate and incomplete. it casts bad teachers and teachers unions as the villians and charter schools as heroes ready to save the day. the character is these caricatures are more fictional than factual. does that sound like somebody immensely under fire right now? >> it's really unfortunate. i think what guggenheim has done is a tremendous service. he's raised the conversation so people around the country are -- >> he's calling you on outliar, david, because you had a different idea of how to approach education. how do you like being called an outliar? >> i don't like it. i was a public schoolteacher and a founding principal of two different schools, i know what it looks like and i know what it feels like to be in a school. reality is we need people that come from the outside to help being agitateors for the system and break up the status quo. >> here's one of the stats that is s

schools has the proposal for the teachers union there. 'm going to pay you really good teachers six figures. something likes $130,000 or something like that but you'll have to forgo tenure. the teachers union would not even bring it up for a vote. >> that is true. but here's how much excitement is around this issue right now. a year later, there is a new contract in d.c. it does propose -- it isn't the numbers that she was talking about. but it does propose a pay increase. it does have a way to evaluate teachers and merit pay for those that are amazing. exciting time right now. >> do you think something is going to happen? >> i have to believe after spending 2 1/2 years on this movie. everybody is talking about this issue. and with the unions, denver has an amazing new contract where they do evaluate teachers properly so there are these examples of how to do it and i think we need to look at that and try to do that everywhere else. >> when i saw the film yesterday, there were a number of teachers in the audience. we have a statement from t

about education, but is not happy what she always an inaccurate portrayal of sub par teachers and villainous unions. >> there are teachers who do heroic work every single day so we need to give the good teachers we have the tools and the conditions to support them. we need to support them rather than scapegoat them. >> reporter: guggenheim says he never expected any film making experience to surpass the support he got for "an inconvenient truth", but says the ground swell around this project has been even greater. he also confesses that although he's a huge supporter of public schools, he's so troubled by their current state he chose private school for his own children. in washington, shannon bream, fox news. >> bret: states go to court to challenge the president's health care law. and a man who overcame a huge challenge will soon receive a rare eye ward. award. i'm a random windstorm. shaky! shaky! shaky! shaky! [ laughs ] shaky! shaky! [ gasps ] and if you named your own price on car insurance, you could be picking up this tab yourself. so get allstate. you could save some cash and be better prot

attempt to get the country talking but aren't happy about what they call inaccurate portrayal of teachers unions. >> there are three million teachers and we need to give the good teachers we have the tools and the conditions to support them. we need to support them rather than cape goat them. >> reporter: he said he never expected any film making experience to pass the support he got for inconvenient truth. he said the ground swell around this project has been even greater. he also confesses that though is he a huge supporter of public schools he is so troubled by them he chose private for his own children. in washington, fox news. >> the san diego zoo has found a rare but appropriate find, the fossil of a whale. last thursday digging on a construction site revealed a large bone. they have since found a 24-foot whale skeleton that's three million years old. researchers were happy to find it intact as skulls normally separate. the fossil will go to san diego's natural history museum for more study. >> the oakland raiders played their home opener today and for the first time since 2004 the home op

well, "waiting for superman" finds fault with teachers unions in america, making the claim that they bad teachers. randi weingarten is the president of the american federation of teachers, and randi joins us right now. and a good day to you. as you know, randi, the teachers are not portrayed flatteringly in this film. what do you have to say about that? do you think that people are missing something? >> well, you know, and i've said this to davis myself several times. >> the documentary producer, we should say. >> the documentary producer. that ultimately there was not one of the great public schools in america that was portrayed in the film. there was not one of the 3 million public school teachers, great as they are, that were portrayed in the film. there was not one community that has been turning around its schools portrayed in the film. so ultimately, the film doesn't have that kind of balance. now, our union, we are a union that ha been workid been workin has been working with the gates foundation and others to overhaul the valuation processes for teachers throughout this count

the new mayor has to play along with the teachers union. u' talking about not having a confrontation with one of the largest unions in the district of columbia and that's teachers. >> i would think somewhere along the line there was a discussion that you would consider this if you get elected mayor. so this may be a campaign promise being ke and, therefore, they'll just have to find the money somewhere in the budget to do this. this also speaks to what do you or to you not do with the chancellor because it flies in her face. so it will be interesting to see w this plays out. > might that derail any reform, dave? >> well, that was the question. the qution when vinct gray was elected by his detractors, i would say, is that this will allow the teachers union to come back in, to gin the upper hand, the slow progress, the slow reform and those critics will probably say that the efforts to rehi some of the teachers or to look at that question is part of the effort. >> it bothers me -- when i hear other people say -- >> that's good to know. >> the

country talking about education but is not happy about what she calls an accurate portrayal of teachers and unions most of them do heroic work every day and we need to give the good teachers we have the tools and this conditions to support them, we need to support them, rather than scapegoat them. martha: boy, this is a huge story to take on, we'll take a piece of it now, dr. eva moskowitz was featured in the movie called "the lottery" a different documentary that highlighted the failures of school systems and her very successful harlem success academy and she has a whole advises, a group of large charter schools and is this founder and ceo of the success charter network and also a former new york city council woman and was the chair of the council's education committee, dr. moskowitz, welcome, good to have you here. >> thanks for having me. martha: your school in harlem, the success academy has 6,000 children on the waiting list who want to get in. >> it is heartbreaking if you have been to one of those lotteries, because, parents want a great education for their kid and i'm the mother of three a

. >> the largest teachers union national education association doesn't track sen yourcond biggest union american fed ration of teachers last tracked it in 2004. 774 percent of the membership was ten i remembered. >> tenure doesn't ever mean you could never be fired if something happened today tenure is an automatic. i think that's a challenge. teacher evaluations in this country is fundamentally broken. >> are the unions on your side? >> absolutely. >> i went to the ada national convention i took teacher evaluation in our country is largely broken and got applause. >> what may not get applause from teachers is a school restructuring model called turn around. department of education is offering 3 and a half billion dollars to the states to identify the bottom 5 percent of their schools and to fix them in one of four-ways. one of those ways is called turn around. that requires replacing a school's teaching staff with no more than 50 percent of them to be rehired. this is exactly what is occurring at fremont hospital located at south central. >> when i came to teach i ide

school teachers union called michelle rhee's comments on hiring teachers and over-exaggeration. >>> a new study shows performance bonuses for teachers do not boast teacher test scores. students in classrooms where the teachers got bonuses did not do any better than those in situations where there were no special incentives. the study looked at the sixth grade through eighth grade math teachers in national public schools over three years. this comes as the obama administration is encouraging school systems to link teacher pay and tenure to how the students perform on tests. >>> if you have an alarm system, a montgomery county woman tells a disturbing story of what happened after the long company's mistakes prevented police responding. this happened waffles and amazon her honeymoon. -- this happened while the woman was on her honeymoon. >> she was pleading with montgomery talented police to check on dallas after the alarm system went off policy was away on moneyline. >> you cannot go? >> this is an absurd. go.police will knucnot >> and thilan went off, the security company gives the wro

just doesn't work what is needed is real change to where our system functions changes to the teachers union you know i'm glad to see the obama administration actually taking on that challenge now obama pledged to work with the teachers' union but said the status quo is simply unacceptable with one third of all children dropping out of the school system but he also plays some responsibility on the parents who he says can and need to do more to support their kids and he once again stated his support for extending the school year to the fact that on average school kids around the world attend classes for at least a month longer the kids here in the u.s. so while obama has mountains to move before the american education system sees real change i lease applaud him for his efforts and hope that he is successful because god knows he's going to need as much support on this as possible. now earlier we spoke about the government wanted to track and control every bit of information on the web every communication while they keep their own words and actions completely secret but it seems there's always

teachers, unions, administrators, school diet. breakdown in culture, technology. i got a whole list for you. joining us now, randi weingarten, president of the american federation of teachers. a pleasure to see you again. how do we build a bridge so that we get out of this entire you versus them versus them. >> first off, thank you for asking the question that way because often, when i start talking about the hows, people have been saying all week, you're taking too much responsibility. what about managers managing. i'm like look, all of us have to step up and talk about our accountability. >> build a bridge. >> exactly. number one, there's four things we have to do. number one. we have to do what finland and south korea and singapore do. which is they respect and invest in their teachers. they do great professional development coming in. they prepare them. they have the tools for teachers to work on shlgs but , but we have to make sure if somebody's not doik a good job, we weed the person out. we cannot let tenure become an excuse. >> stop this. i want to play may

. >> reporter: the head of the teacher's union and the ceo of baltimore city schools said they believe the agreement will benefit both parties, especially the students. >> that is a commitment we made at the beginning. i'm proud of the fact we kept that commitment. >> reporter: the deal also raises the starting salaries for new teachers in baltimore ball. and there is the chance for fairly substantial raises if the teachers get good evaluations and student test scores. reporting for wjz eyewitness news. >> the plan still needs the approval of the teachers union. >>> five months after she was killed at college. the family of yeardley love has created a found disaition in her memory. >> the foundation is working with yeardley love's alma mater. it calls for a scholarship in her name of the love was a standout student athlete through high school and her years at the university of virginia. love's mother said it's to encourage children and young adults four qualities, service, kindness, humility and sportsmanship that togetherred up to one love. love was found dead on may 3rd at the uva ca

let me talk about teachers rather than the teacher's union, because the teachers' union is around tothe respect they need to do good jobs for kids. because like everyone on your previous panel, including ben, all of us who are involved in education want to make a difference in the lives of kids. but like what jeff said in the clip, a great teacher is amazing and unbelievable. and our job is to make sure that we have good to great teachers for all kids. >> larry: why are you against the measuring of them, though? >> we're not just against the measuring of them. the issue, we actually -- our union, actually, in january, i proposed to revamp all of teacher evaluation. because we, like michelle, and like jeff, and like others, no one wants a bad teacher in the classroom. >> larry: but they say all you want to do is keep them in their job. >> well, they're just wrong. >> larry: so she was wrong? >> she's wrong about that. but the real issue becomes how do we help assess teachers, and so what we've done, larry, is that since january, when i proposed a total revamping of evaluations, 50 to

in a couple of years, the teachers union will ride again and will not be able to get rid of the bad teacherswe will go back to status quo. >> the most important thing that happens with the education reform is taking the school board that had been the problem with education and the district of columbia because they play a political football. the person who pushes that will lead the district of columbia3 >> the timing of that the feed is important on a national scale. those advocates of education reform or led by the corporate community and they are on the verge of releasing a new movie which is called "waiting for superman." it was created and written by the same director who made a "an inconvenient truth." they are supporters of reform. this had the same kind of impact that i" an inconvenient truth" had on environmental issues this will go national. who is one of the leading voices in this, michelle ray? a reformer who was about to get run out of town because of the daring reforms that are being advocated. >> this is normally a local election, this makes this national park i. this is not usu

about education but not happy about what she calls an inaccurate portrayal of sub-par teachers and villain outside unions. >> there are three million teachers in this country most who do heroic work every single day. so we need to give the good teachers we have the tools and the conditions to support them. we need to support them rather than scapegoat them. >> reporter: he says he never expected any film making experience to surpass the support he got for an inconvenient truth. but the ground swell around this project has been even great he were. he also confesses that although he is a huge supporter of public schools he is so troubled by their current state that he chose private school for his own children. in washington, shannon green, fox news. >>> waiting for superman opens september 24th in select theaters. >>> an interesting concept in minnesota. teachers grabbing goods otherwise headed for the garbage. it is part of a nationwide effort called zero landfill to take product samples and keep them out of the trash. a number of twin cities teachers say the project helps with school budget issues and gi

in most places unions and school boards negotiate how teachers will be assessed. but not in washington, d.c. in 1997 the city council gave the chancellor full control over evaluations with no oversight from the union. >> this evaluation instrument has created the highest level of fear i've ever seen among teachers anywhere. >> reporter: fear of? >> fear of being targeted for elimination unjustly. >> reporter: across the country most public school teachers are observed by their principal or assistant principal once or twice a year. nearly every teacher receives at least a satisfactory rating. but in rhee's system every teacher is observed five times a year, three times by an administrator, twice by a master educator. those evaluations combined with student test scores result in a final rating. >> we've added more objectivity to this process not only than we had before but i would argue that exists anywhere across the country. >> i think we are all.... >> reporter: special education teacher matt nagy that impact's unannounced observations have improved his classroom