welcome to forbes on fox and go in focus with teave forbes. and teave, and vict toria and rick. teave, get rid of the problem by getting rid of the agency in >> why not. every organization over time loses site of what they were created for and who ther to serve. in free markets you get caught up short. it is a government agency and break it up and put it out with competitive hearing. you will not do it with hearings and memos and commands from the top. >> rick, you always sigh these things in government agency and why you need to shrink the number of government agencies, right. >> be care. -- careful. blaming the entire agency for a few people. >> we have a long list. >> people in charge were fired and not only that, the woman who run the agency resigned. not good things to happen and should never happen in a organization. but you don't throw out the baby for -- with the bath water. >> victoria, there are dozens and hundreds of federal agencies. you think it is any in these eamingses. i went through those officers of hud and agriculture department and they all work this way, don