rich, talk about the successful techies.realize there are so many entrepreneurs who have started with nothing. that was their summer camp and their playground. >> what are the conversations like? what do people talk about? >> it is interesting because it has gotten so big and well-known, those conversations about burning man have changed a lot. when you are out there, you are in this harsh environment, you might be in the middle of a total dust storm, dressing up in some crazy outfits, trying to ride your bicycle with no navigation across a two mile expanse to find your friends, and you run into all kinds of other people in that environment. you have no idea who people are back home. beingne is just a human and there is not this hierarchy we have in our society. >> i've heard stories about the fancy private jets to get there and so on. it suggests there is more of a tiered structure. wealthypeople hear that people are going to burning man and they are funding things there, they kind of bring all of their judgments from this

he was at techie. [laughter] >> guest: indeed. it is funny. everyone knows that jesus was the son of a carpenter. they don't realize that it is the word for tech time. they could be that we will come to think of jesus as more than somebody did with his hands seen as more of a designer, maybe if we understood what he looked like, to the french horse of the back patent always figure out what to trick thanks. ♪ -- and. >> host: are we idolizing technology? >> guest: when i allowed it to be the first thing that i interact with in the morning and the last thing that i do 9i have allowed it to order monday. from the monks actually invented the clock as a way of the mechanical clock as a way of ordering our days so that we would understand there is a time for work and prayer and food. so now we are allowing our smart phones to sort of dictate the hours of our day. and i wonder if our relationship is a little too intense, it is our closest companions. do we need to turn it off occasionally, to take back the power in our lives, perhaps to power down in

connection between the tech elite and burning man and even crediting the desert festival with helping techiesk and tap into their creative energy. burning man benefits from techs' involvement. >> there are lots of workers involve in making this art. they help fund it and weld it and they participate in it. >> ultimately that's what matters and it is not the size of the rv. in san francisco, tiffany wilson, abc7 news. >> i had the opportunity to meet an incredible san ramon woman in may. a loyal volunteer for the american cancer society, she is fighting cancer herself. back when i met hershey had one wish -- her she had one wish, to marry her sweetheart and tonight that wish came true. >> ♪ let me know that you need me ♪ >> the baide walked down the aisle at the san ramon golf club to marry her fiancee. it was a day she did not know if she would live to see. this wedding day was truly a dream come true. >> i was relieved it was here and i was happy. >> sealed with a kiss, the couple knows this day was made possible thanks to generous people and strangers who donated money and services to make

. >> francis is a techie kind of guy, right?if i wanted to rank francis' blowups, this is in the top ten. >> it's high. >> now that he's riled up, i'm going to send a facebook message. >> no, i do not want [ bleep ] messages with the app. >> i'm going to show you something you've never seen before april squirrel king. notice anything about this? >> tails tied together. >> they don't have their tiles tied together but they are stuck together. >> there was five. >> this occasionally happens. they might be in a tree with sap and when nesting together, sleeping together the sap gets in there, tails might stick together. they need somebody to help loose than because if they stay together, they can get infected. >> i thought they were stuck because they were having a squirrel orgy. >> this is totally rated g. what are they doing? >> holding their butts to each other long enough for the sap to seal them together, you know what i mean? >> maybe they have superpowers, wonder twin powers, activate. >> i think kinky stuff going on in the s

connection between the tech elite and burning man and even crediting the desert festival with helping techieswork and tap into their creative energy. burning man benefits from techs' involvement. >> there are lots of workers involve in making this art. they help fund it and weld it and they participate in it. >> ultimately that's what matters and it is not the size of the rv. in san francisco, tiffany wilson, abc7 news. >> i had the opportunity to meet an incredible san ramon woman in may. a loyal volunteer for the american cancer society, she is fighting cancer herself. back when i met hershey had one wish -- her she had one wish, to marry her sweetheart and tonight that wish came true. >> ♪ let me know that you need me ♪ >> the baide walked down the aisle at the san ramon golf club to marry her fiancee. it was a day she did not know if she would live to see. this wedding day was truly a dream come true. >> i was relieved it was here and i was happy. >> sealed with a kiss, the couple knows this day was made possible thanks to generous people and strangers who donated money and services to ma

connection between the tech elite and burning man and even crediting the desert festival with helping techies network and tap into their creative energy. burning man benefits from techs' involvement. >> there are lots of workers involve in making this art. they help fund it and weld it and they participate in it. >> ultimately that's what matters and it is not the size of the rv. in san francisco, tiffany wilson, abc7 news. >> i had the opportunity to meet an incredible san ramon woman in may. a loyal volunteer for the american cancer society, she is fighting cancer herself. back when i met hershey had one wish -- her she had one wish, to marry her sweetheart and tonight that wish came true. >> ♪ let me know that you need me ♪ >> the baide walked down the aisle at the san ramon golf club to marry her fiancee. it was a day she did not know if she would live to see. this wedding day was truly a dream come true. >> i was relieved it was here and i was happy. >> sealed with a kiss, the couple knows this day was made possible thanks to generous people and strangers who donated money and services t

networking giant cisco systems alone has laid off thousands of people at a time and young, talented techies seem to be moving north to find their dream jobs. >> i think most folks coming out of school and looking for new jobs are wanting to be in san francisco. >> reporter: not that santa clara county isn't hiring. we visited cheg. recently public and growing. >> we're hiring. we're constantly recruiting and hiring recruiters, too. >> reporter: but just a bit south in san jose, they're slumping. >> boutiquey restaurants, the theaters, the bars, the things that make people want to come and stay here. >> reporter: i spoke earlier to a san jose official who admits the city is trailing san francisco when it comes to urbanization and things to do after work. he says the city has a plan in mace to bring new restaurants, new housing, and new tech jobs to its downtown. reporting live in san jose, scott budman, nbc bay area news. >> scott, thank you. >>> new at 5:00, the deputy who shot and killed a boy last year is now returning to patrol. the deputy will be back patrolling the streets starting nex

. >>> downtown los gatos is a watering hole and playground for silicon valley techies but lately it's been hit by a wave of vandalism. kpix 5's betty yu shows how it's costing business owners plenty. >> reporter: in upscale downtown los gatos, you'll rarely see shattered store front windows but it's happened several times the businesses in the last month. police say vandals are using something similar to bb pellets. >> they're bullets. that's what they are. they're bullies, they come out with whatever they have and they're just going to damage. >> they could care less about stealing. they want to just damage and make everybody easterly miserable. >> reporter: owner mary says her store was hit sunday night. the repairs and lost merchandise set her back at least $2,000. >> what happens is all the glass shards goes into the clothing and we have to throw everything away. >> reporter: that same night vandals hit hole's restaurant around the corner. it's the third time this month. >> we came in and i saw small little rocks on the ground. and broken windows. so someone probably drove by and

women doing everything from -- they've invented removable wallpaper, rodeos for special need kids, techy stuff like online scheduling tools. >> maybe there's some you want to invest it. go check it out. great to see both of you guys. thank you so much for stopping by. >>> thank you so much for joining us today. if you want to see any of the segments again, they're posted on our website openforum.com/yourbusiness. we put web exclusive pieces up there as well. you can find us on twitter, '6@msnbcyourbiz. we're on facebook and instagram, too. >>> next week an own of a security guard company realizes her business is limited only by her imagination. >> i didn't have the scope right. i think that's what keeps a lot of small businesses and entrepreneurs where they are is they don't realize the size of the opportunity that's out there. >> how a shift in attitude can change everything. till then, i'm j.j. ramberg. remember, we make your business our business. >>> the vanishing of the middle class. good morning. thanks forgetting up early with us this sunday morning. there's a lot of news we want

crediting the festival with helping techies network and tap into their energy.d says it benefits. >> they help fund it, weld it, and participate in it. >> he says that is what matters. not the sides of the rv. >> an unusually long back up at the toll plaza caught dozens off guard today. this is the scene this morning. this long line was getting better in the summer, three toll takers instead of four. and today, something changed. >> it could be people working on fridays so you see change. we're able to optimize our toll lakers but it's possible to say than just speculating now. >> the mtv says it will look at video and make any necessary adjustments the agency reminds drivers using fast track is an easy way to avoid lines at the tolls >> walgreens says the pharmacy data base crashed today, temporarily preventing filling prescriptions. l company works to restore service. walgreens filled 800 million prescriptions last year. >> well, we think we have a pretty good prescription for the weekend. >> i think so. >> some clouds around now. let focus to the south, well

techies, successful but they don't realize that so many many of the occupant errors -- many of the on-screenat was their summer camp. what dore the vibes, people talk about? what has gotten so big and well-known that many of those conversations about burning man have changed a lot. when you're out there, you're in this harsh environment, you might be in the middle of a total whiteout dust storm. trying to ride your bike with no navigation across a two mile expanse to try to find your camp or friends. you run into all kinds of other people. you have no idea who people are. beingne is just a human and a peer and there is not this hierarchy that we have in our society. >> there are the stories about the expensive rv's and the expensive just to get their wish suggest there is more of a tiered structure their. >> wealthy people with private jets going to burning man, they are finding things there. they kind of bring all of their judgments from this world and what this must mean. i am sure you can find anything you want to find out there. when you have somebody come in like that, maybe they're com

to attend gets pretty funny i mean i'm not a security expert and i would even consider myself that techie so that anyone who's a non-security expert to take the proper precautions actually have it here i have a burner phone there is a no smartphones anywhere nearby carry a load balancer credit card with you in a protective wallet i don't own any of these things so working out of burners it's like going back to the stone age a pen and paper it's amazing how to write but it's kind of funny kind of interesting and yes do i think that. be active i bring a computer absolutely. oh thank you so much stay it was cold out there it's going to stay warm in the desert air and those that are do is boom bust in las vegas thanks so much. if you're lucky enough to be a middle to upper class member of global society chances are you rarely experience what it's like to go hungry instead if you're like me you're most likely guilty of the sin that few of us ever think about wasting food and the amount of food americans collectively throw out is truly mind blowing in your report put out earlier this year by th

crediting the festival with helping techies network and tap into their energy.and says it benefits. >> they help fund it, weld it, and participate in it. >> he says that is what matters. not the sides of the rv. >> an unusually long back up at the toll plaza caught dozens off guard today. this is the scene this morning. this long line was getting better in the summer, three toll takers instead of four. and today, something changed. >> it could be people working on fridays so you see change. we're able to optimize our toll lakers but it's possible to say than just speculating now. >> the mtv says it will look at video and make any necessary adjustments the agency reminds drivers using fast track is an easy way to avoid lines at the tolls >> walgreens says the pharmacy data base crashed today, temporarily preventing filling prescriptions. l company works to restore service. walgreens filled 800 million prescriptions last year. >> well, we think we have a pretty good prescription for the weekend. >> i think so. >> some clouds around let focus to the south, well sou

it is the anything goes festival that is being overrun by billionaire techies.

i believe they will receive new advice from the government relation types who are not techies but our original government relations people who have become part of the tech world. when that happens, it will begin to evidence self with good work to ask you> i want about robin williams and his death. i know you were a longtime friend of his -- how are you feeling now on hearing this news? >> i was devastated. robin was a good friend. when you lose a friend, the like losing some person. call was someone i could upon for whatever purpose that might be needed. show up for benefits for organizations i glide methodist church and others. robin would show up at my birthday parties unannounced doing his usual thing. you could not get him off the stage sometimes. he was an extra ordinary person and at 63 years of age, that genius is lost and i have lost a friend. him doingquestion of his usual thing, i've heard he's always on and it's the goal to know the real robin williams. i want you to take a listen to a clip of him speaking with charlie rose about some of the issues he was facing and at the

. >>> listen up techy, rumors from apple who are about to shake upper ipad design. >>> plus the battleetween health and tasty. a new list of cereals >>> back to school means back to that morning routine. and that includes starting on the right foot with breakfast. consumer repos found nutritious cereals that are also tasty options for your family. >> reporterli out of teb in the u.s. the russos kick off the morning with a bowl of cereal. >> it is importa to start off eating something new traditiori ca will carry us through the day. >> reporter: there so many choices with health claims on the labels. consumer repos set out to find which taste the best. so what is health? look for cereals that contain at least fi grams of fiber or more. a maximum of three grams of fat a max of 130 mg of sodium and under 8 grams of sugar per serving. >> you td have less artificial ingredients and more natural ones. >> can a cereal be healthy and not taste like cardboard? yes. topping the ratings, bobs old mill country style. loaded with rsidates, nuts seeds and raw oats. kind. blueberry clusters and oats.

i believe they will receive new advice from some of the government relation types who are not techiesut are relationship people who become part of the tech world. when that happens, the transition will begin. >> i want to ask you about robin williams. i know you were a longtime friend of his. how are you feeling now upon hearing this news and what sort of -- >> i was devastated. robin was a good friend. when you lose a friend, it is not like losing some person of great celebrity status. robin was someone whom i could call upon for whatever purpose that might be needed. benefitsld show up for for organizations like glide methodist church and others. up at myld show birthday parties unannounced doing his usual thing. you cannot get him off the stage sometimes. he was just an extraordinary person. at 63 years of age, that genius is lost and i have lost a friend. >> on the question of him doing his usual thing -- i heard he was always on. it was difficult to know the real robin williams. i want you to take a listen of a clip of him talking to charlie rose about some of the issues he was f

people talk about the rich, successful techies, but they don't realize that so many many of the entrepreneursed with nothing, that was their summer camp. >> what are the vibes, what do people talk about? >> it is interesting because it has gotten so big and well-known that many of those conversations about burning man have changed a lot. but when you're out there, you're in this harsh environment, you might be in the middle of a total whiteout dust storm. dressing up in some crazy outfit trying to ride your bike with no navigation across a two mile expanse to try to find your camp or your friends. you run into all kinds of other people. you have no idea who people are. everyone is just a human being and a peer and there is not this hierarchy that we have in our society. >> there are the stories about the expensive rv's and the fancy private jets to get there. but it suggests there is more of a a tiered structure their. -- there. >> once people hear that wealthy people with private jets are going to burning man, doing , they bring good judgments in this world and what that must mean. i am sure

and get ready to get techie in the new stadium. it has wi-fi points. and an app where you can have food and drinks delivered right to your seats. there are 1700 beacons in the stadium. the app gives you directions to your seat, the nearest bathroom or the concession stand. if soccer's not your thing and you're still a niners fan, don't worry, wrestle mania will be in march of next year. monster jam in april, and a cal football game scheduled for october along with the pac-12 championship game as well. [ drum music ] >>> caltrans is trying to drum up business with this pep rally. it took place at the king street station. the cheerleaders were on hand to get the message out. you can find out everything you need to know on our website. for everything you can and cannot bring, also the goodies you can eat once you get there. just go to nbcbayarea.com. >>> still ahead, armed and dangerous. shocking video of a robbery in progress. >>> there's a smelly problem here at the santa cruz harbor. volunteers have been here all day scooping up dead fish. i'm michelle

now, are you sort of a robotics or a techie kind of guy. you like this kind of stuff. >> i do.leads me to believe you need the ibb. if you go this way, you need to be in something where you will get a bigger reach. i don't know how you boo i this specifically. i don't know how you play it. whether you are playing it for collateral, whether it's drug companies or not. i think this makes it more apparent that you have to be in a fund versus specific -- >> the american heart association auto with new warnings. will it be a big hit? we'll break down the trade. that's next. . >>> lululemon , one trader says the stock is about to turn the corner. mike. >> this is a fame trading well over average daily volume in options and the most accurately october 40 calls, we saw a substantial buy of those, paying about $3. they were making bupish bets they would be above expiration with the stock trading over 40 earlier today. this is particularly interesting to me, earlier in the month, we have corporate action with chip wilson agreeing to sell the shares to advent, they were going to get seats

. >> seven-time burner sees a connection and credits the festival with helping techies tap into theire energy and says burning man benefits from silicon valley expertise. >> they help fund it, weld it, participate in it. >> he says that's what matters. not the size of the rv. in san francisco, tiffany wilson, abc7 news. >>> we have a follow-up to a story about an incredible woman in san ramon. a loyal volunteer for the american cancer society. cherise beyelia is fighting cancer. in may, she had one wish to marry her sweetheart and last night, the wish came true, here's ama dates with the story. ♪ ♪ >> bride cherise beyelia walked down the aisle at the san ra monday golf club to marry her fiancÉ she wasn't sure she would live to see the day, she has lymphoma, possibly only months to live. so the wedding day was truly a dream come true. >> you was, i was relieved it came true. sealed with a kiss, the couple knows this day was made possible thanks to generous people. some strangers, who donated money and services to make it happen. >> it's great to know that there are people out there wi

he was at techie. [laughter] >> guest: indeed. it is funny. everyone knows that jesus was the son of a carpenter. they don't realize that it is the word for tech time. they could be that we will come to think of jesus as more than somebody did with his hands seen as more of a designer, maybe if we understood what he looked like, to the french horse of the back patent always figure out what to trick thanks. ♪ -- and. >> host: are we idolizing technology? >> guest: when i allowed it to be the first thing that i interact with in the morning and the last thing that i do 9i have allowed it to order monday. from the monks actually invented the clock as a way of the mechanical clock as a way of ordering our days so that we would understand there is a time for work and prayer and food. so now we are allowing our smart phones to sort of dictate the hours of our day. and i wonder if our relationship is a little too intense, it is our closest companions. do we need to turn it off occasionally, to take back the power in our lives, perhaps to power down in

. >> but these sworn declarations were overwhelming from techies, people who have no political interest. what would be their motivation to withhold information? >> well, you have to understand, there's information that's probably coming from the witnesses themselves and then these declarations are most likely being drafted and produced by the attorneys themselves within the irs. so these are declarations that have a lot of missing information, and there are a lot of gaps. and they don't speak, especially confirmed by judge sullivan's order, to other resources that judge sullivan was very adamant about at our hearing last month that the irs has to provide information, what other sources are there from which these e-mails can be produced? >> and morgan, i know you're quite convinced that these e-mails have to exist somewhere because e-mails are not unique to the person who sends them. someone receives them. >> look, when this thing first broke out, we came down to fox several times. i said several things. she has an assistant who has subpoenaed and looked at her assistant's e-mail because

it's a mecca for techies and that means a crush of cars. now a silicon valley city is ponying up to fix its parking problem and $2 million solution on the table. >> it is wet outside and not because of rain. we've got some heavy drizzle out there right now. how long will that last? >> and we've got a pileup right now in berkeley, debris on the roadway and westbound 80 is slightly new location it's approaching ashby. a look at that plus the rest of the drive to work after the break. but we also want to know what drives you crazy during the commute? ask a question or share a gripe by e-mailing crazy@kpix.com or tweet me at e @ewengerkpix to see if your question gets answered on air. we'll be right back. ,,,, ,, that will be $22 dollars and 50 cents. $22.50. that's insane! jack. what? it's not even a meal? right now, at my place you can get my spicy chicken club combo. it's my classic spicy chicken breast with bacon and melting cheese on toasted sourdough plus fries and a drink for just $4.99. aww, you're just a big softy. nah, i'm still sad a

if you could be a great locatal operative, a techie in any way, shape or form, you might have a bright future and get a job. that's the important thing. >> since you all are ivy leaguer, you have to give a shoutout to my alma mater cal state north. >>> reports surfaced that google executive could take over his old job. is the obama administration trying to strengthen its ties with silicon valley? >> i think you're right, why not? think about all the criticism that government got for how it handled obamacare, and how much better the technology should have been? they want to have silicon valley on their side. they want the smartest minds in terms of technology to help make all those government systems better. >> dom, the last word on this one. chinese online shopping is offering virtual partners, the service reportedly has they girl friends or boyfriends calling or texting you to wake up, say good night, listen to your complaints, for under $5 a days. before you answer whether you would do it, we want our viewers to weigh it. do you think virtual companionship would work in the u.s.? joi

traders are really awaiting any dramatic moves in policy easing, and techies everywhere, of course, areseptember 9th for apple's next big product launch. it's heavily anticipated the company will release the latest vest possibly of an iphone, maybe a wearable, who knows, they can't say, but investors are on the edge of their seats as september is shaping up to be a wild month and could, scott and company, really set the tone perhaps for the rest of 2014. back over to you guys. >> dom, thanks. what do we think about a couple areas of the market that have done well in august. a lot of stuff is coming at us. midi and small caps up 4% in august. do they continue to win? >> i think so. first off, i think you'll see the broad market rally. we're going to see it continue. why? so many money managers are coming back from vacation, they're going to work. what they're realizing is they didn't think we would be up 10% on the s&p 500 at this point in the year and they were conservative. they held cash, now they have to throw money at it. if you've got to throw money at things to catch your benchmar

the techies at the irs said they did everything possible to recover the files from a broken hard drive but the records were fruitless. some of those e-mails will never be found, as they say. the president of true the vote. that is one of the groups targeted by the irs. welcome to the program. this is the most extraordinary cover-up i have ever seen. i am making a big time judgment with that and also going to say i don't think we will never get to the bottom of it. >> i don't disagree. i have hope that the inspector general's report will shed some new light but it is important to remember if there is more to this story and the e-mails. lois lerner was not the only one involved in this. just her e-mails alone tell only part of the story. we need to expand it and get serious about it. stuart: what we are trying to get, what you are trying to get at is was there a connection between the officials at the irs going after groups like yours and the white house and/or the reelection committee for president obama? you want to establish that relationship. so far you can't do it. i you telling me

. >> reporter: these young seattle techies wanted to do more with their interface technology use fordaining and exhibits. >> it was not a far step to stick zombies. just the visceral love that people had for being invaded by zombies was, it was clear that a haunted house had to be created. >> ha-ha-ha. >> reporter: even the marketing person got scared. >> oh, no. >> reporter: the intern got scared. everyone. and yes, photographer katie johnson -- got eaten by the zombie too. >> we can have your friend in the room with you for most of the experience. then all of a sudden turn into a sdmrom be and attack you. >> reporter: nightmare choices, mild to wild every day, at the experience music project near the space needle. it will be your worst nightmare. jeff burnside, komo, 4 news. >> i look how they're in an open area. >> that's scary. >> ah! our own nightmare! get under the desk! >> no. >> ah! [ screaming ] >> insomnia. what you need is a nightmare. >> whoo. i don't know what is scarier watching us or watching jack. >> that is your news for this half-hour. >>> this morning on "world news

revelers usually sleep in modest camps or temps, but the techies with artist bow home yums often arriveeat meals made by gourmet chefs and have sherpas taking care of their needs. >> rather than going to a bartender bartender, you go up to a sherpa. >> they actually welcome the influx of wealthy participants. they say silicon valley philanthropy fund it. the co-founder spoke to charlie rose in march. >> then people from that industry became piling in to the event. then they said they're going to ruin it. but they said every migration is going to ruin it but it just enriches the viernts you know. >> critics say embracing silicon valley, burning man has essentially jumped the shark. some have started competing festivals where attendees must set up their own shelters and are banned from using thse sherpas. > i ask you michelle what's wrong with the gourmet chef. you lose me with the frolicking nakedness snow all of a sudden it's interesting to me. >> and a few other things. >> i'm up for a sherpa myself. >> i think of the bad sunburn you'd get. michelle, thank you very much. >>> you don't

they went out and hired consultants and techies and data and one of the guys hired by the cardinals woundtaking control of the team's draft. the cardinals have done really well. a few years ago, the astros hired him away to basically do tot mitt romney's to do still companies, chair the whole organization apart and rebuild it from the ground up with the idea toward building a super efficient, cutting edge data centric baseball team. >> he is the mitt romney of major league baseball? >> i don't know if you would like me calling him that. >> did he say, we are going have to lose for a few years in order to get better? how do you convince a team to do that? >> it is the wrong approach. you could spend millions of dollars telling a mediocre team every year to keep the fans happy or rip off the band-aid, trade away all of your major league prospects knowing in a few years, when they got good, you would get really good and stay good. it is sort of a trade-off. their attendance has gone down, lost more than any team since mets, but we see them starting to turn around and positive signs. >> bill

he was at techie. [laughter] >> guest: indeed. it is funny. everyone knows that jesus was the son of a carpenter. they don't realize that it is the word for tech time. they could be that we will come to think of jesus as more than somebody did with his hands seen as more of a designer, maybe if we understood what he looked like, to the french horse of the back patent always figure out what to trick thanks. ♪ -- and. >> host: are we idolizing technology? >> guest: when i allowed it to be the first thing that i interact with in the morning and the last thing that i do 9i have allowed it to order monday. from the monks actually invented the clock as a way of the mechanical clock as a way of ordering our days so that we would understand there is a time for work and prayer and food. so now we are allowing our smart phones to sort of dictate the hours of our day. and i wonder if our relationship is a little too intense, it is our closest companions. do we need to turn it off occasionally, to take back the power in our lives, perhaps to power down in

it's create add buzz among techies. 9/9/twau 9/92014. >> the company's expected to unveil the iphonee are leaked images we want to point out. we cannot, cnn, verify their authenticity as to whether they are truly anything is going to offer up. but there's even talk of an apple iwatch. >> our tech journalist joins us. john, the new iphones are supposed to be bigger. some people who say they've seen them, they say they're uglier. >> you know, there's -- by the way, victor, i love how you said 9/9/2014. look, people love to build the buzz when it comes to apple and apple loves that buzz because it generally results in more sales for them. i think there's enough information that we can say that with the larger screen iphones that there's been a lot of discussion around, apple would be doing that -- i mean some people might like the look, others might not like the look. but the competition is offering all different sorts of screen sized phones and apple has to stay relevant. if you think about it, why do i need to go out and get another smart phone. we all watch a lot of videos on our pho