and they are regularly doing very very good journalism you know blogs like tree hugger or clean technica blogs like tech crunch for example those are the blogs that i'm that i was referring to that i regularly read because they have reporters they are doing real reporting in journalism they're not just citing a source and presenting a huge amount of of opinion and you know an analysis so i just want to say and i go do you see what are the blogs i was talking about is that obama's trip to india cost six hundred million dollars a day or something like that or a obama is a muslim. the. ground zero mosque that is a terror mosque those are the kind of blogs i'm talking about and they do have a lot of influence and they do go into the mainstream go ahead steve. there's there's no doubt about that if you look at the quote unquote ground zero mosque story which isn't just a mosque and it wasn't it's not proposed to be build on ground zero that story did bubble up from these sort of fever swamp rightwing islamophobia blogs one particularly atlas shrugs was famous for this and we had a mainstream