texas tech. can't let the clock bleed out and up more than a field goal. anything more than that and that's it. a field goal gives you a chance for a tie game with a touchdown and two points. >> gus: clock still running. first down. >> charles: let's see when they snap the ball too now. the clock is on the run. you want to snap it inside of five seconds on your play clock, preferably around three. >> gus: tech with only one time-out left. >> charles: the rushing yardage for oklahoma in the second half. >> gus: and a time-out by ou. two time-outs left for bob stoops, his team up by five. 'cuz unless you're usin' your truck to deliver pizza's... you ain't gettin' anything done without it. torque is power. it pulls trailers. hauls dirt. drags boulders. torque is what gets the cap off your beer. and only the ford f-150 with ecoboost has the best combination of torque and fuel economy. think about that. this is the 2013 ford f-150. >> gus: welcome back. 35-30, 2:13 here to go here in the fourth quarte

versus old tech. >> what are you talking about? as ibm tanks, investors flock into facebook and linked in. could they be making a mistake? we'll have a special report. plus, while everyone was watching google. >> did you see that? >> there's one sector, whose undercover rally has just begun. we'll tell you what it is and how you can cash in. and get ready for a bombshell.

tonight new tech versus old tech. >> what are you talking about?> ibm tanks, investors flock into facebook and linkedin but could they be making a mistake? we'll have a special report. while everyone was watching google. >> did you see that? >> there's one sector who's under cover rally has just begun. we'll tell you what it is and how you can cash in. and get ready for a bombshell. >> i am your father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate. >> no, not that kind of bombshell. we're talking about netflix earnings and we'll explain why traders expect a huge move on monday. the action begins right now. live from the new york nasdaq markets in new york city, i'm melissa. keep it classy. it is the investment equivalent of the mile high club, thousand dollar stock prices, google doing what apple could not and joining priceline as one of only two stocks in the s & p with a four digit price tag. begging the question, when will apple join this grand party that is the tech rally? let's get in the money and find out. let's start on the desk and mike, t

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i think it makes me sad when i see the new york tech community or any other tech community trying to live in the shadow of silicon valley. silicon valley is silicon valley. let's not try to be silicon alley or silicon fill in the blank. let's be our own thing. the bay will continue to be this amazing place for tech, but look, there are going to be tech -- i visited tech communities all over the country and arguably all over the world that are finding their own way. because when the cost of starting this stuff is as low as it is, what's going to happen to change the future of agriculture with, you no he, technology? start-ups like ag local. they're just friends of mine, but they started in kansas city. a start-up started by a couple hipsters in skinny jeans whether they're in brooklyn or the mission is not going to solve agricultural problems unless they spend time on a farm. >> but they came to silicon valley to get their legs. so there is a balance. >> i've got to jump in as well and say that we've run out of time. one last quick question. you have an ask me feature that president o

first down at the texas tech 47.t, little fella, we're going to put that to an end right now. >> charles: watch wesley right in the middle working against ikard and irwin. they had irwin pulling and he came right through the gap where bronson irwin danced out for the pull and wesley buries him in the backfield. >> gus: he'll lose four yards on the play. make it second down and 14. here's the handoff. and brennan clay will get to the 45. kerry hyder with the tackle, a six-yard gain. that makes it third down and eight at the 45. time-out called by texas tech. with 4:00 to go. tech with one time-out remaining. 35-30, big third down coming up. one more! one more! let's go! ♪ one more. ♪ one more. [ coach ] one more time! c'mon. [ panting ] ♪ one more! one more! one more. let's get it. let's go. [ male announcer ] proven hydration to help replace what you sweat out. one more team. one more championship. let's go baby. ♪ that's awesome!staurant. let♪s go baby. i know, voice activated and great gas mileage. so much better t

within tech, it's a battle between slow growing tech names that yield steady earning great and new age internet names. skeptics say these high flying internet names like facebook and google are trading at a rich valuation and might be too expensive. the bulls say if you want growth, this is where to invest. >> in 1999 investing saying here in 2013 a good place to make money in cash flow protect sieve is what we refer to as new tech. >> reporter: whether industrial, retails or tech, if the market continues to move higher x perts say it will be even more difficult to find deep value plays. for "nightly business report", i'm seema mody. >>> he's chief market strategist with russell investments. nice to have you with us. are you finding stocks are getting too expensive? >> in the u.s. market we're seeing a fair valuation on the market. pe, how much can you buy in earnings for what you pay for stocks. it doesn't look overly expensive or cheap, either. from our prospeerspective f we confine ourselves to the u.s. market, i think we're seeing an environment where stock picking, selection will

one of them certainly is tech stocks and how they've performed like f 5, see man tech, ibm, big blue, negative reactions following earnings reports. outlooks have a good amount to do with that. tech stock outlook may be a warning sign for the market. another big one from the charts, the technical side. carter worth at oppenheimer says there are fewer s&p 500 companies that are trading above their 150 day moving average. that's their medium term batting average if you will. even as we hit record highs, fewer stocks are trading above their average marks. that's something to watch as well. also, number three, china. there's concerns there that the chinese stock market has been on a steady kind of drift up and down but downtrending throughout the course of the year. that might be a cause for some investors. the emerging markets especially china have been huge powerhouses. more of these warning signs on cnbc.com. go there and we have a lot more about what exactly the market is looking at for reasons why we could see a correction. >> dom, come sit down here with me. it really seems like the

here at p-tech, you've got folks from ibm, citi tech, citi university of new york. citi department of education, everybody is pulling together to make sure a high school education puts young people on a path to a good job. so you guys have opportunities here that you don't find in most high schools yet. you can take college-level courses in math and science. you can work with mentors from ibm so you're learning specific skills that you know leads to a good job. and, most important, you'll graduate with a high school diploma, and an associate's degree in computer systems or electro and mechanical engineering. and that means you'll be in demand. companies will want to hire you. ibm has even said that p-tech graduates will be first in line when you apply for jobs once you graduate. and at a moment when the cost of higher education keeps going up and arne and i are working hard to make sure we are doing everything we can to reduce the burden of student loans on young people, here is how much two years of college will cost p-tech students and their families. zero. nothin

. >> thank you to virginia tech for hosting us this evening. there has been a lot of back and forth over the last 11 months. there is a simple question that virginians must answer over the next 11 days. who will work with both parties to focus on jobs and education. i have been honored to earn the support of an historic number of republicans, many of whom have never supported a democrat for governor. it is the same kind of coalition i will assemble in richmond, with responsible leaders who will put jobs first and partisanship behind, focus on mainstream issues of job creation and maintaining fiscal responsibility. my opponent has become increasingly desperate. that includes false attacks on me and false attacks about his own record. during this debate, just like his previous campaign, my opponent will claim he will focus on jobs. even the conservative richmond times dispatch, he " pursues his strident agenda with --" he tried to derail the transportation bill. this week, he refused to say whether he supported reopening the government. >> mr. mc

. >> amy says: >> all right, when we come back, tech culture, who is and what isn't.nd is there a bare we are to minorities trying to break in? [[voiceover]] every day, events sweep across our country. and with them, a storm of views. how can you fully understand the impact unless you've heard angles you hadn't considered? antonio mora brings you smart conversation that challenges the status quo with unexpected opinions and a fresh outlook. including yours. >> hi, i'm phil torrez. coming up this week on techknow: >> it's going to get bumpy over here it looks like. >> we drop like a rock, and then you experience zero g's. >> this is a modified dc8 with about 28 different instruments on the outside. >> it's one wild ride. we're flying at 300 feet over the gulf of mexico. come aboard nasa's laboratory in the sky. >> welcome back. before the break, we mentioned bro grammars, and tech culture and asked if they are creating barriers to women and minorities. >> a lot of leaders responded. serene said: >> chandley, when we talk about tech culture, one term that keeps coming u

. >> amy says: >> all right, when we come back, tech culture, who is and what isn't.nd is there a bare we are to minorities trying to break in? >> welcome back. before the break, we mentioned bro grammars, and tech culture and asked if they are creating barriers to women and minorities. >> a lot of leaders responded. serene said: >> chandley, when we talk about tech culture, one term that keeps coming up is bro grammar, and can you explain what that is? >> in bro gramming, we see the imagining or rebuilding of the traditional geek stereotype, a much more aggressive and traditionally masculine version of nerd and geek culture, and it blends well with job kurt. traditionally, the geek being shy and socially awkward, unattractive, and having difficulty picking up women. and while this was inaccurate, it was rampant in the geek culture. so now with bro gramming, we see masculinity that was lost in early version stereotypes with the rise of this white nerd and boy king construct, more hyper masculine, and boy bonding and individualism. with open sexism and objectification

is it because tech isn't tech anymore? have changed in the secular basis that we can't look at tech as one entity? >> you know, jim, there are multiple dimensions of change. you and i have talked about them in the past. in the i.t. world, there's big data, there's the cloud and analytics. there's lots of individual changes taking place there, even in semiconductors. what's going on with the latest telecom build-out, the latest new consumer devices. that's technology. that's the way it's been for 30 years. we've talked about moore's law in the past and all the change that brings. today is really no different, other than i tell you the pace of change i believe has accelerated. it's putting even more pressure on all of us to try to keep pace with what's going on. when external change exceeds the rate of internal change, that's when you have problems. >> we had palo alto networks on last night. really terrific company. they, themselves, are having difficulty predicting six months from now. >> i wish i could add some more clari

move away from the techs for a second.ou, the techies with their new found wealth, they're probably eating at chipotle because they have strong numbers and nicole, i think that got straight up as well. >> it's doing so well, it's hitting a new high today and i know you were mentioning a new high and chipotle an all-time high. 480.69. a gain, and earnings have been on the rise and they're seeing more customers and the sales continued to improve. they said they're going to raise their prices for the first time in three years by next year because they face additional costs including food inflation, but doing so well. in this article i'm reading it talks about david einhorn, the hedge manager, and talking taco bell is stealing chipotle's customers. if he was shorting this one, he's not too happy today. >> you know, nicole, somebody was joking in our studio about the techies, they started out with no money in san francisco and used to be a doggy diner and then they made a couple of bucks and moved up to taco bell and raking it

i want to introduce the ceo type a machine it was founded and run here or rather there in tech shop they make 3-d printers and they're on the verge from having started and now stroirl to be a normal big thriving company >> it started off with me i had a 3-d printer i was disappointed with and people offered me money that was about two years ago now. and yeah. we're up to 18 members of staff we're moving out and we're about to roll outlets new generation machine and it's great in that kind of looking the giant mountains. if i'm not mistaken you're the second company to be kicked off of tech shop for being successful >> finally, there's we have robby from planet labs who does, you know, rocket science among others and robby tell us more. >> absolutely. we at that planet labs design and build and manufacture observation satellites. we put those staeltsz in space and take pictures of the planet. in december of this year we're going to launch the work out are words largest of 28 satellites this will help us go insight into the planet. but from the standpoint of manufacturing and where we're h

at $1,000 a pop is it a bargain or tech problem all over again? i'm ali velshi, this is "real money." >> this is "real money." you are the most important part of the show so join our live conversation in the next half hour by using this hashtag o.j. real money on twitter. housing's spectacular comeback may be cooling down thanks in part to rising mortgage rates. in september home values stayed black compared to august according to new numbers that were crunched by the online real estate barr database zillow. because of the recent washington government shutdown we don't have the latest economic figures that folks like me use. starting next week those reports will start trickling in, but there are some private sector surveys we can turn to like the ones from zillow to get an idea of how things are going. in red hot real estate markets, california, they saw home values decline by more than a percent between august and september. san francisco, chicago, new york, miami, all of those places saw home values stay more or less the same. the only markets t

change in after-market trading. ♪ all the tech stocks with a market cap...0 billion... are up on the day. 12 low-volume stocks... breaking into 52-week highs. six upcoming earnings plays... that recently gapped up. [ male announcer ] now the world is your trading floor. get real-time market scanning wherever you are with the mobile trader app. from td ameritrade. >>> we are back in options action, want to know how to make over 60% of your money in apple in just over a month? that's what dan did with his bullish bet on apple. here's how. >> on options action, it's how we trade like legends. risk less so you make more. that's exactly what dan did with his bullish bet on apple. dan thought apple shares were going higher, but buying 100 shares of the stock would set him back over 50 grand. so to spend less, dan bought the apple november 500 strike call for $25. to make money he needs apple to rise above that call strike price by more than the cost of the trade or in this case above 525 by november expiration. but 25 bucks? >> the whole situation was, in my mind,

tech company. the company's signature software is a search engine for astrid alibaba will get a seat on the u.s. company's board. the deal highlights ali baba's bid to expand its influence in selecting valley. we are now going to continue on with our tech focus. we will focus on the city of kansas city. a new generation of startups has found a unique place to call home. it is a far cry from silicon valley, but mark newstead by two c -- mark newstead by to see what it was like in kansas city. >> what do you guys have? >> the fiber house. >> three printing startup -- 3-d printing startup handprint decided to join kansas city start of vision. -- village. >> this is our living room. we have writable. we've got big computer screens. >> visiting at 1:00 in the afternoon may be a little early. >> he was up until 3:00 a.m. working on some code. coding is really like an art, right? you only have so many hours of productivity a day. if you are really into what you are working on, it is nice to just keep goin

look, every major tech company has computer glitches. you read about apple, you read about all our major tech companies. those will be solved. the administration is working to do it. they're putting in a tech surge, they're putting in more people at the call centers. if you need health care, the fact you couldn't get on the computer right away isn't going to stop you two or three weeks away when they're fixed from going on. i think the computer glitches are used by a good number of people who never wanted obama care in the first place as an excuse to just sort of bash it. >> let me get back to politics. one of the striking things in our wall street journal poll was the following question: would you vote to replace every member of congress? 60% said yes. we asked here on "meet the press," on twitter for ideas on gridlock. campaign finance reform. senator coburn, is term limits maybe the most viable way to end this dysfunction in washington? >> i certainly think it would bring a different viewpoint to washington. my complaint is the vast m

let's see what we . >> cologne is like a low-tech solution to a high-tech problem. >> definitely, they are elusive animals. any help you get, even a low-tech tool like col own, that allows you to get a picture or fur sample or give you information if the camera is set to video. >> my experiment was running for a month. it didn't work. the truth is working with animals like jaguars is not an exact science like i would hope it would be. scientists at jvi were able to pull it off. here is the night vision. jaguars marking, leaving behind skin and fur subjected to dna analysis in the lab. . >> i'm a chanel scent. why are you using commercially produced perfumes - why is it the optimal approach? >> it's a cost issue, i was at the duty free and thought i'd pick it up. i still use it now for me. i need col own, may as well use this. i want to show you guys a spider i was telling you about. this is the moment of discovery. we happened to be filming. this is what happened. a favourite thing to do in the amma zone is hike at night. >> -- amazon is hike at night. >> what happened? >> i don't know

since then the oil and gas has gotten a lot more tech heavy. stocks in the oil my view is you need to look no further than core labs. they analyze the rock 'n' fluids in oil reservoirs in order to help the clients produce more oil on a day-to-day basis as well as helping them get royal more oil it of the ground out of the entire life of the reservoir. the reservoir description business tells oil and business companies how to drill in order to get the most value out of their assets. core's other big division enhancement does the analysis of oil companies of what they need before they can drill a well to perfection including picking up the best way to approach and design the process of hydraulic fracturing, drilling technique unlocked all of the oil and shale i'm constantly talking about. core has given you a 35% gain since april and company reported a record breaking quarter. magnificent quarter. off $1.34 basis. higher than expected revenues. 11% year over year. management raised it high for the next quarter and return on investment here is ext

the internet's tech giants are in damage control mode asking the federal courts about a report. >> in the wake of the u.s. national security agency scandal much of the tech industry has grown critical of government snooping. some companies named us partners including facebook and google sued the u.s. in order to set the record straight. they're hoping to fight the perception that the n.s.a. has direct access to their servers. but the snodeen leaks prompted dire warnings predicting that american businesses would lose 10s of billions of dollars abroad. one industry nonprofit survey brought that 10% officials canceled contracts in the wake of the leaks. 56% of nonuse respondents said they were hesitant to work with cloud computing. none of that has panned out. some of the internet giant who is helped the n.s.a. gather datted oversees, privatey they felt little if any impact. some of those very same firms have half of the websites. the only major countries not under their sway are china and and japan. here local providers have managed to maintain domination of their market. and there's a

. ♪ , applause ] five tech stocks with more than a 10%...in after-market trading. ♪ all the tech stocks with a market cap... of at least 50 billion... are up on the day. 12 low-volume stocks... breaking into 52-week highs. six upcoming earnings plays... that recently gapped up. [ male announcer ] now the world is your trading floor. get real-time market scanning wherever you are with the mobile trader app. from td ameritrade. >>> welcome back to options action. now, close to 70 companies in the s&p 500 are going to report their earnings next week. so we are getting into the heart of earnings season. there are a couple big names on tap. you have citigroup posting results on tuesday before the open. b of a on wednesday before the open. then there's gold man sacks. they report on thursday. yes, before the open. big tech names, intel, ibm, google. all of these guys are reporting. according to s&p capital iq senior analyst, third quart wither earnings per share are expected to post another record, but, and this is a big but, sales may not be as r

we will continue speaking about the taiwan tech trek. gina holly and david wang are here with me.ver the course of the internship, have you gained a better understanding of taiwan? not just work, but also the people, the society, the kinds of values shared by the people, especially the youth in taiwan -- has that been so for the kinds of progress you have seen in your understanding of taiwan? >> yes. i would say definitely. for me, it has been a seven-year gap since i last came back. the taiwan experience when i was 14 was mostly hanging out with other overseas taiwanese, rarely interacting with the people who tually live here. now i'm more mature and i understand -- i'm more curious about it, and i want to learn. i'm more observant about my surroundings, and talking with other taiwanese people. the greater understanding i have is how society and people think. they're not really that different from us. it is more interesting to see how they see us, because we are overseas taiwanese. it is quite interesting. >> and gina? >> i have had a bunch of time alone, traveling. i also have a

. >> hhs and cms have launched a tech surge that is well underway bringing some of the most talented experted to bear on this problem and they are working 24/7 on fixing the website. you know we are not interested in monday morning quarterbacking. >> chief white house correspondent ed henry, that is an interesting comment. almost everyone is asking about this now. >> the administration's broader point jay carney again today they think it is more important to focus on fixing the website and getting people health insurance. what about who may have fumbled here. kathleen sebelius if you don't figure out what went wrong how are you going to figure out the issues as this law is implemented in the years and months ahead? you mentioned jeffrey zions, very significant. he will be coming back in and is now on short-term loan, he is a management expert and former ceo, how do you fix this thing and get the website going so that more people can navigate their way through it. the washington post had a article out today saying that weeks before the launch of the website there was a test down of mi

spying inadvertently kill innovation altogether in terms of tech. yeah and it is killing innovation as i mentioned you would think that these these tech companies that boast that they offer secure communications would be the next field of innovation that people would turn to once they realized you know the free market would work and they realize that a google and facebook and all these companies are handing over my dad to the n.s.a. i don't feel secure i don't feel like my privacy is being protected i'm going to go to these companies that do do that but do boast that they are going to do that unfortunately the way the n.s.a. has cracked down on these secure companies like a lot of bit people don't have that option that kills innovation it keeps people in these old companies that are you doing what the n.s.a. wants them to do so so that's just another one of the economic consequences that you see boiling out of all this from failed trade deals the failed defense contracts with with brazil or or this now this in this kind of crunch on on innovation wh

will the tech roll continue this week? we have a lot of earnings numbers coming out from some of the biggest players. let's talk with andrew keene, president of keene on the market dot com. first up today we have apple numbers coming out. how do they look to you? > >apple actually has sold off on earnings. it sold off 5 of the last 8 quarters. however, the chart looks pretty strong ever since carl ichan stuck his nose out there and said he wanted to be long apple. the chart looks very strong. they sold 9 million of the new phones. i actually bought the new iphone. i'm not impressed with it but the fact of the matter is they sold 9 million of these. i actually think they're gonna report good earnings last time the stock ralled. i think the stock could get up to $560. > >noted. i'll look for that. linkedin is coming out with numbers tomorrow. > >the way the market works, i want to trade with the trend. i don't want to trade counter trend. if you look at all these growth stocks---linked in, yelp, netflix, tesla---you can't tr

here to explain what the tech is going on in tech, samuel, the ipad may be the founding father of tablets, but will it be the last device standing? >> well, it's still the one to beat. they just came out with a new one. it's lighter. it's faster. it still has the $499 price tag. it's heavy for some folk. but there's also the ipad mini which is also now the ipad. it's not called the ipad mini anymore. but it's $399. so it's still a lot of cash. >> it is still an awful lot of cash. >> a lot of people think it has to compete with this thing. the nexus. you look at that. it's pretty small. you can hold it in your hand. that's from google. it's $229. it's a big question. should i use ios or should i use android. so i use my mom and dad as the example. my mom already knows the iphone. i tell her just get an ipad. it's hard to relearn a new system. my dad has fat fingers. one thing about android is it has customizable fingers. maybe it's time for my dad to ge an android. >> right now with this fight for supreme supre supremecy are they going to stay the forever? >> android has more market share

creating tech nickel innovations in the campaign field. what happens if your dreams aren't realized and you need to go back into the job market? >> i think college is always going to be there. and so if worse comes to worse i guess i can go back to college. >> this is pbs news hour weekend sunday. >> and now the connection. we love an awards ceremony and in america we tend to give awards out for anything. in the fim world there is the razeies. i want to thank the cast. it simimportant in order to give a bad performance like i did you need a lot of bad actors around you. in the fashion world richard black well became famous for his worst dressed list. the prizes werewarded just last month celebrate not the worst scientific achievements but the funniest. >> every winner has done something that first makes people laugh and then think. they studied scientists who studies opera on mouse heart transplant patients to the talents of dung beetles. >> some people think science is crap. to the possibility of running on water on the moon. the ceremony

. >>> still ahead, two big tech names out with late-day earnings but one thing in each report investors need to know, up next. >>> first, how the international markets performed today. >>> closely watched earnings aft closing bell this evening, first up doe component and intel that beat wall street estimates, they earned profits of just about 3 billion pulling in 58 cents a share, revenue in line with expectatio expectations. see sema was looking into this. >> they beat expectations and delivered solid earnings by controlling costs during a weak p.c. environment. finding a way to maintain expenses led to the expansion in growth margins. >> seema don't go away. we heard from yahoo after the market closed. they earned 38 cents a share that beat estimates by a penny but revenue came in at just over $1 billion, down 5% compared to a year ago. so seema what's the big take away on the quarterly report? >> its user base continues to grow as more than 800 million monthly users, up 20% over the past 15 months and marissa mayers says this is a meaningful increase in traffic and can the company mo

there's a battle to build the most high-tech, most energy efficient and you know what?plain cool house in america. everything. everything you could possibly think of. diana olick is live in california with a tour of some new high-tech features that you never imagined. hit us up. >> reporter: well, mandy, leave it to the two teams from cy ark and cal tech to make a house that literally opens up and lets the sunshine in. we all know energy efficiency is all about keeping the house small and tight. you have a 600 square foot house here that opens up into an 1,800 square foot living space. everything in this house -- what do they say about cars? it corners on rails. the house itself is on rails. even when you go into the rooms. say you want your bedroom to be small because you're entertaining over there. then you want to go to sleep and you want it to be bigger? push it open and move it out. easy as that. everything in the house moves. take a look at the furniture here. all modularly designed so it stores up away here like a puzzle. when you want to take it out, perhaps you

google versus old tech ibm. big cap financials versus regional banks, for example, which may offer more alternative attraction. there are sectoral feed plays that are working here. >> there are. >> if i'm recalling, you and your firm alike have been fairly positive on europe and japan. still feel that way? >> absolutely. we've seen some of the same fundamentals in the u.s. untolding in europe, improvement in the macro environment across developed europe including the uk and jap pan as you mentioned and we see still an accommodative bank. >> so let's go back to the fed now. as we've gotten past the washington mess -- >> have we? >> at least temporarily, where does the fed night your think stg. >> -- thinging? >> what has happened makes the think morgue difficult. the fed mentioned in its minutes the reason for not tapering was based on three key components. one was economic numbers were not sustainably improved. well, we have, you know, for a data dependent fed we're on data deficiency right now. we don't think t