>> we're talking a about 4 to 8 inches out there, ted. the rain is pulling out of mississippi and now heavy across alabama and georgia. i think that's where the worst of it will be and also one of the great concerns is it moves into the southern appellations, you get the terrain and elevation. the rain comes down heavier and you worry about the threat of mudslides. we're tracking tornados, too. we have the outer bands moving through the panhandle. you can see the tornado watches in effect. the first one until 4:00 local time, and the second one which includes the metro atlanta area, and those could have weak spots. be aware that these things do happen with the tropical systems. now the flood watches and warnings are stretched all through the southeast and through the appellations and through the mid-atlantic and even into the northeast. we have the cold front which is impacting the northeast, and we will see the remanence of lee up the coast. this will be with us all week long. how much rain? let's talk more specifically. our computer mod

ted ginn jr. is the man of the hour. we'll have more at 6:30. >> and looking forward to.thank you, dennis. >>> well, as civilians first responders, and politicians mark the 10th anniversary of the september 11th attacks, musicians are presents a tribute. an opera 10 years in the making is making its debut in the bay area at 630 fuel. there is the man behind the production, talk about his inspiration. this is it for eyewitness news at 5:30. we'll see you in a half hour and at 11. until then, the updates are on www.pix.com.

the 49ers against seattle and ted's excellent adventure.d house honoring 9/11 victims before the game. niners out on fire. tarvaris jackson is crushed. out pops the pig. five sacks of the day and led 6-0 in the second. smith running and throwing his way to the end zone. watch the foot of vernon davis. that shoulder, first down inside the 20. pass interference call moves the ball to the one. alex, gutsy dine into -- dive into the end zone. harbaugh is loving it. doug baldwin scored on a 55-yard td catch, cutting the lead to two. ted ginn, jr. with this, special teams can win games. 26-17, 49ers. then a minute later, after defensive stop, it was ginn again on a punt return. this time 55-yard worth of real estate. are you kidding me? back-to-back returns for the score. niners win 33-17. the second longest kick rush at home and fourth longest in team hoyt. >> i looked at the jumbotron and seen there was guy behind me, and i thought about just putting it back into my arms to secure across the goal line to make it be what it is, a touchdown, and

thanks again, ted.>>> so here's your chance to "talk back" on one of the big stories of the day. today's question is herman cain is being fair when he says african-americans were brainwashed. carol costello has more from new york. carol, what do we know about this story? >> it's a hot topic today, suzanne. republican presidential contender herman cain certainly hit a nerve. >> why is the republican party basically poisoned for so many african-americans? >> because many african-americans have been brainwashed into not being open-minded, not even considering a conservative point of view. i have received some of that same vitriol simply because i am running for the republican nomination as a conservative. so it's just brainwashing and people not being open-minded. >> it does make you wonder, are white working class voters brainwashed because they vote republican? just saying. that's how one political analyst put it. roland martin, a cnn political analyst, went one step farther. he called cain's remarks stu

i miss you, ted. we all miss you. thank you, mr. speaker. the speaker pro tempore: the chair recognizes the gentlewoman from california, ms. woolsey, for five minutes. ms. woolsey: mr. speaker, yesterday the u.s. embassy and nato headquarters in kabul were attacked. the taliban, which we know has exerted its influence in many of the remote regions of the country, is now flexing its muscle in the supposedly secure capital. it's just the latest piece of evidence that the military occupation of afghanistan is having exactly the opposite of its intended effect. nearly a decade after we allegedly defeated the taliban and drove them from power, they remain as fearless and as undaunted as ever. the longer we have boots on the ground, the more we prop up the very enemy we're supposed to be fighting. and for this, the american people have the privileged of shelling out $10 billion a month. -- privilege of shelling out $10 billion a month. i ask my friends on the other side of the aisle, the one who are lecturing us every day about spending, isn't the

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ted rowlands in los angeles covering the trial. ted, take us inside the courtroom today. >> reporter: well, john, it was a fascinating day of details for the jurors getting inside jackson's house through his personal assistant and the head of security. they talked about when things went wrong, when they were first alerted by dr. conrad murray that there was trouble, both testified that they were never instructed to call 911, and both told a similar story that dr. murray, after jackson had been pronounced dead, about an hour afterwards, he came up to them at the ucla medical center and wanted a ride home to the jackson mansion. he told them that he wanted to retrieve some cream that he said that jackson wouldn't want the world to know. well, prosecutors want jurors to connect the dots and they want people to -- the jurors to think that it was that propofol that they were really -- that he was really after. >> ted, we also heard today, a witness testified that murray requested a cpr machine and he wanted to hire a second doctor for t

talk me through the rest of the day, ted. an interesting bit on twitter i thought overnight with your little exchange with jermaine jackson. jermaine pretty upset by our conversation last night in which you sort of intimated that his brother had been a drug addict and he said, look, this is not about michael being a drug addict. and you kind of accepted based on that one tape that wasn't the case. are you still feeling as confident given the evidence today? >> well, yeah, what jermaine jackson, his point was and it's well taken, that audio recording that we heard in court was so dramatic. i mean his speech was so slow. on the air i said he sounded like an addict. what jermaine's point was, one tape, one shot of somebody doesn't mean they're an addict. this tape doesn't prove that. point well taken, it doesn't. what is a concern i would have if i'm the prosecution and the jackson family is the way the jurors would take it. they would listen to that and possibly make the same leap that i think a lot of people would, that not ev

a lesson from the death of ted kennedy's 51-year-old daughter. >>> and family love. why this woman had to lose 135 pounds in a race to save three lives. >>> good evening. it is still the cornerstone of the american dream. a house, all your own. but brand new numbers out today show what has happened to the value of the typical american home. and here is that typical house. it is three bedrooms, two baths, 1,700 square feet and nearly 40 years old. but tonight, we have learned that home is worth just over $168,000, down almost one-third of its value five years ago. so, we asked today, when will this sinking market end? and is this the time to buy, sell or walk away from a mortgage? abc's jim avila is right here to break it down. jim? >> reporter: diane, these new numbers released today tell us we need a new strategy for buying, selling or just holding onto your home. experts say you can survive, even thrive during what could be another decade of depressed home prices. but you may have to make some very tough decisions. gil calderon and zoyla noza think the best strateg

ted rowlands, thanks so much. outside the courtroom. of course, we'll check back with you and again in about, now, 40 minutes or so court is to resume there in that trial. >>> so we've heard a lot about this anesthetic, propofol, and its role in michael jackson's death. we're going to talk to an anesthesiologist about how the drug is misused and how it is supposed to be used. dr. zeve cain will join us around 11:30 eastern time. stick around for that. >>> now here's your chance to "talk back" on one evered big stories of the day. today's question -- why do republicans love new jersey governor chris christie? carol costello has more from new york. in, out? what's going on? >> relentless. chris christie is not running until president until, he is -- maybe. the only thing we know for sure is many republicans want him to run desperately. christie is enjoying every single moment of it and delivered a speech fit for a presidential candidate at the reagan library. >> insists that we must tax and take and demonize those who have already achieve

our cnn's ted rolands, covering the trial for us there ted what do we expect to hear from the paramedicsoday? >> reporter: there are two wee quay witnesses, suzanne, and they will testify when they arrived they can believe michael jackson was flat lining, he had no pulse and they say they asked dr. murray how long has this been going on and they claim that murray said just happened, right now. they say that they both thought that was a little suspicious but the most damning thing, if you will, against murray that they will testify to, as we watch janet jackson and brother, randy, now coming into the courthouse, the rest of the jackson family is already in the courthouse. janet jackson has been here every day of this trial and as you see on this friday, she is arriving as well. but the most damning piece of evidence that these paramedics are going to provide for the prosecution is that they asked dr. murray what did you give him? what did you give michael jackson, and he never mentions propofol. that will be where the prosecution con accept traits their direct examination on these two key

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and what americans say is happening to the economy. ,, first, senator ted kennedy's daughter. kara kennedy, seen here in 2 >>> two unkindly deaths in the political world tonight. ted kennedy's daughter. seen here at a white house ceremony had battled lung cancer since 2002. died of a heart attack yesterday after working out. brother said cancer treatment weakened her. her brother lost a leg to cancer at age 12. besides her two brothers and mother, leaves a husband and two teenage children. she was 51. >>> the daughter of former vice president has died. battling a rekurns of brain cancer for the past two years. left her last position as a minnesota radio talk show when -- survived by parents brother and third husband. she was also 51. >>> republicans say they are making an effort to attract hispanic voters. included a town hall coverings included jobs, education and public safety. >>> a new poll says americans are pessimistic about the economy. the new york times poll found that 72% of americans say the country is on the wrong track. the highest since obama took office. 53% say

we will keep you very very busy with your comments and your illustrations as well ted rall political satirist columnist north thanks for being on r.t. big. to britain now people they have long been able to march in protest but those voices are being silenced in parts of london for an entire month the government's letting police slap a blanket ban on public gatherings in some areas now for some it's putting freedom of expression of course on the. lore emmott found out in london. the view of workers activists on the home office ban on marching is clear it's an attack on the basic democratic rights in this country through september in six areas of london anyone marching like these people did last winter is liable to be arrested and fined or even imprisoned. the ban was prompted by plans by the anti muslim english defense league seen here in luton in february to march through tower hamlets the area with the highest concentration of muslims in the country but instead of banning one march on one day the home office banned all marches in six bars for an entire month activist richard seymour

for more i'm now joined live from the us by political satiric and author ted rall ted thanks very much indeed for being with us here on our team now we're just learning today that a key rebel military command is apparently calling on the leaders of the national transitional council to resign is this perhaps a signal that the rebel movement is falling apart now that gadhafi has lost power. well i have some sympathy for ishmael alsa lobby and his call to get rid of all the former regime figures i mean it's not much of a revolution if you have former officials from the ex from the government that has just been deposed certainly you would see any kind of division like that you know since in a scenario where revolution is not fully realized and that seems to be the situation in libya but it is a transitional council isn't it it's temporary so therefore there are going to be elections later so they'll actually chosen by the people of the moment is not acceptable that it is a temporary organization and he may need people with experience to be in that council. right well that's the argument an

ted rowlands has that and more. a dramatic day in many ways, finally laying bare, really, all the rumors and whispers that we've been hearing about this trial. i suppose one of the most dramatic moments of all came right at the top when the jury were shown a photo, which we can see now of michael jkson dead. i mean, a bizarre thing to do. what was their thinking? >> well, you know what? it was right off the bat, piers, when the prosecution began the opening statements. the lead prosecutors within a few minutes, he showed this photo of michael jackson. boy, if the jurors weren't fixated to begin with, they sure were at that point. of course, family -- it was a very emotional moment for the family in the courtroom as well and for everybody to see that image of michael jackson. obviously, what they're trying to hammer home here, what they were early on in the opening was that this was the victim. he was an international star. and every one of those jurors, they know it, has an opinion and lass some connection to michae

it's a spare the air day ted. air quality is suffering due to heat building. heat is going to go away before you know it. let me show you highs today. waits hot. san jose, livermore, 96 degrees, santa rosea, 96. san francisco there is a warm 88 degree day today. 89 oakland, redwood city, 92 degrees and along the coastline a lot of warmth. 86 in santa cruz. upper 80s san francisco and oakland. i hope you had a chance to get out there and enjoy the heat. numbers right now into low to mid-90s inland. mid 70s to low 80s tear the coast. fog tonight a cooling begins tomorrow. and we're looking at early season rain next week. there is a major shift coming next week going to bring in rain heading into october. and there is a look at satellite picture, there is fog creeping up and spreading north. this fog will continue to move in along the coastline. so overnight tonight you'll see changes. later on tonight fog along the coast just sits there. tomorrow morning it will be foggy neert beaches for morning commute. inland areas, mild and clear. and near the coast looking

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. >>> the 49ers beefed up their special teams. 2* paid off with ted's excellent adventure.ked house honoring the 9/11 victims. the niners came out to play. he crushes jackson and out pops the pigskin and 9er rez cover and they get a field goal. five sacks on the day. alex smith is runing and throwing his way to the end zone. scrambling and watch this throw to vernon davis. on the back shoulder and beautiful. he moves the ball to the one and alex takes it himself. niners up 16-0 at the half. and coach harbaugh is loving it. ted's excellent adventure continues. 26-17 niners. and then a minute later it was a punt return. are you kidding me? back to back scores. 33-17. the first player to take back a punt. >> i looked up at the jumbo tron and seen there was a guy behind me. i thought about puting it across my arms to make it be what it is, a touchdown. you know, secure the victory for us. >> i woke up every hour crying, making sure they were prepared and they had our back. the players did a heck of a job. i was proud of them. >> the giants carve out eight runs to prevent a swee

ted, it was stunning to hear. i can't imagine what the reaction was like inside the courtroom where michael jacks jackson's family was attending. >> reporter: to be honest, drew, i was not inside the courtroom during that audio, but i think anybody who heard it was shocked. and the prosecutors used it for one reason, to show that dr. conrad murray knew what he was doing to michael jackson, knew the drugs he was administering to michael jackson had this type of effect. they got that recording from murray's own cell phone so murray was recording jackson in if that distorted state. i mean, you could hear him just trying to slur the words. this was part of an hour and a half that the prosecution went through today in their opening statements with the jury. basically, they said murray was incompetent and that he dropped the ball in leaving jackson alone, not only by giving him the propofol and other drugs, but he left him alone unconscious. they say that was the cause of michael jackson's death. now, right now murray's

my name is ted's prosser -- ted stosser. i love roof of bars. i just got back from amsterdam. the city -- they are a city that figured out how to get that right. what noise do you monitor? is it talking, ambient noise? how do you address safety? i would love for san francisco to do that. i would love for that to be successful. we have not done that. our process to approach this problem has been reactive. this is illegal. we are nowhere near a good process. we do not have a standard. the recommendation for you is also know where. it does not deal with enforcement. it puts the problems on the neighbors. what we are dealing with is the worst-case scenario, a situation where a connected individual broke rules and wants special treatment, and is getting that special treatment. he has done a lot for a lot of groups. you will see a lot of people speaking on his behalf. the point is, there is a problem to be solved. we need to work with the neighbors. but when you take a step back, if five months from now we have one work top bar, we have not done the city a favor. what about the othe

ted rowlands thanks so much in los angeles tonight. we appreciate it. >>> using a parliamentary maneuver that takes much longer to explain than it does to watch, the house of representatives today kept the government from shutting down by agreeing to the compromise worked out in the senate. >> without objection, the senate amendments conoccurred and motion to reconsider is laid on the table. >> there you go. crisis averted. >>> in presidential politics, republican newt gingrich today unveiled a new 2 161st century contract with america. the first one was ten items and fit on two pages, the new contract is 23 pages and isn't done yet. >> the scale of change i am suggesting is so enormous that i couldn't possibly as a single leader show you everything i'm going to do. >> 391,000 americans filed for new unemployment benefits last week. but that's the lowest number in nearly six months and maybe signals a slight improvement in the job market. >>> speaking on a south florida radio station, vice president biden admitted the obvious, while th

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thank you. >> my name is ted kroeger. i'm a retired firefighter. i currently manage a commercial office space. the economics of the city affect everybody and with this autozone going in here, it's a win-win situation, right? tax revenue for the city. they have their own parking lot. they also provide a good service for the community there. the community wants them to come in. it's a source of employment. i would like to highly urge you to vote for this to go in. thank you. president olague: thank you. >> it's a real pleasure to be here to address you about this project. i think you know when a landlord has a problem of getting a tenant in, it's a sizable problem because you don't have any revenue for a long time. so it was very difficult to over the last few years, to keep turning people down that i didn't feel would be good tenants. and we went through four years ago a rather difficult time, but we also survived and events went by and we're now very happy to be where we are. we think that autozone will be the perfect fit for our building. we origi

we want to go to ted rowlands who is out sds the courtroom with some developments, ted?: martin, already a little drama here, security drama this morning. conrad murray was not brought in the main entrance. he was brought in in an underground entrance. when he arrived on the ninth floor where the proceedings are taking place, members of the public are allowed up there. they are -- they go through a metal detector, et cetera, but a woman apparently ran at the doctor as he was walking down the hall. sheriff deputies were able to get in between this woman and dr. murray and escort her out. we don't know what her motivation was but already a little drama in what could be a potential security nightmare holding this trial in downtown los angeles with so many emotion outside and inside this courtroom. >> how well aside from that have the crowds been behaving as far as the leadup to the first day? >> reporter: yeah, there's -- chanting some pro-murray people and a lot of folks against murray as well. they are here yelling back and forth at each other. we haven't seen anything bu

ted rollinss and dr. sanjay gup gup gupta. ted, we saw alberto alvarez, he described dr. murray pushing down on michael jackson's chest with his left hand, telling alvarez they needed an pla ambulance. he says two of jackson's children came into the room. watch this exchange. >> paris screamed out "daddy." >> when you heard paris scream out daddy, was she describing? >> yes, s cry something. >> yes, sir. >> did you escort the children out or indicate to them to go out of the room? >> yes, sir. dr. murray said don't let them see their dad like this. don't let them see their dad like this. and i proceeded to turn around to the children and kind of ushered them out and said, kids, don't worry, we'll take care of it, everything is going to be okay. >> also today in the courtroom, prosecutors played the call alvarez made to 911. ted rollinss, i know being in the courtroom, you're looking at the jackson family, how did they react to the news of paris and her crying that day? >> reporter: well, i could see la toya jackson and she dropped her head and looked down. and all along t

you catch up with him in two thousand and eleven is the year ted ted finally catches up with several european countries like greece and italy so they plan to put their houses in order they have to spend what they have but not spend more than they have it has to do all of the stops to gain five nation to pin their backing to roll over its national debt. situation right now and i don't really has that much choice. the audience a russian talk show got more than the money's worth a little played on the financial crisis ended up in a fist fight on screen two super rich tycoons take a blows after a difference of opinion they are this is going their seven game prolong spear recording of her discussion for russia's main channels and alexander lebedev there is a radio move to predict these places punched it saying it was defending himself claiming he thought he was going to be attacked first since just moments earlier stories goes from lewinsky told there was a little precursor to his face floated up took it seriously and really stood out as the other prisoner and tried to calm down and then

her father ted died of a ma anything nantz brain tumor.er brother did beat leg cancer although he lost a leg to it and funeral arrangements for kara kennedy right now are still being organizing. >> a sad story. t.j., thank you. we appreciate it. >> you bet. >>> now, let's check on the other headlines this morning. for that we turn over to the facts man. >> that's right. >> ron claiborne. >> good morning to you, bianna, and dan, t.j., good morning, everybody. >>> we begin with the two american hikers who have been jailed in iran for more than two years now. now a new roadblock is delaying their path to freedom. abc's jim sciutto is covering the tense waiting game. good morning, jim. >> reporter: ron, good morning. enormous frustration this morning for the american hikers, their families and the host of foreign mediators trying to negotiate their release here from in iraq, a religious delegation from the u.s. the hikers' lawyer just told us, the second judge needed to sign their release orders is on vacation until tuesday. so now we know tha

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