toad -- ted corker, governor falone -- fallon of oklahoma. is a very attractive option. senator tim scott would be very compelling. african-american, cruyff republican, has done very well, very popular back home. i think trump has a lot of choices. host: and finally what does this campaign feel like to you? you've been through a lot over the years. you laugh? >> i have two parts of me. i'm a gemini so i'm allowed to have two parts. one is that politics is a sport in the same sense as football or what have you, and the other is this year as a historian, the two come together perfectly. this is the wildest, most unimaginable, unpredictable year i can remember in modern history. i think you have to go back to e 19 -- election of 1824 and 19 -- 1828 with jackson. host: and that year's election year files like? >> wild and woolly. the number of friends i have who are very knowledgeable who say to me, "i have to forget everything i thought i knew about politics because it clearly no longer is correct," that's amazing. host: so how does donald trump win the election? how does h

ted corker, governor fallon of oklahoma. is a very attractive option.enator tim scott would be very ompelling. african-american, conservative republican, has done very well, very popular back home. i think trump has a lot of choices. host: and finally what does this campaign feel like to you? you've been through a lot over the years. you laugh? mr. gingrich: i have two parts of me. i'm a gemini so i'm allowed to ave two parts. one is that politics is a sport in the same sense as football or what have you, and the other is this year as a historian, the two come together perfectly. his is the wildest, most unimaginable, unpredictable year i can remember in modern history. i think you have to go back to the 1824 and 1828 with jackson to have anything like this. host: and that year's election year files like? mr. gingrich: wild and woolly. the number of friends i have who are very knowledgeable who say to me, "i have to forget everything i thought i knew about politics because it clearly no longer is correct," that's amazing. host: so how does donald trump

kasich of ohio, ted corker, governor falone -- fallon of oklahoma. is a very attractive option. senator tim scott would be very compelling. african-american, republican, has done very well, very popular back home. i think trump has a lot of choices. host: and finally what does this campaign feel like to you? you've been through a lot over the years. you laugh? mr. gingrich: i have two parts of me. i'm a gemini so i'm allowed to have two parts. one is that politics is a sport in the same sense as football or what have you, and the other is this year as a historian, the two come together perfectly. this is the wildest, most unimaginable, unpredictable year i can remember in modern history. i think you have to go back to election of 1824 and 1828 with jackson. host: and that year's election year files like? mr. gingrich: so wild and woolly. the number of friends i have who are very knowledgeable who say to me, "i have to forget everything i thought i knew about politics because it clearly no longer is correct," that's amazing. host: so how does donald trump win the election? how do

corker and marco rubio. he's the author of how republicans can elect a new president in the new america. peter hart has done the same for democrats for four decades including fritz monday, ted kennedy and the "wall street journal" nebraska poll, conducts focus groups around the country for university of pa's annenberg school. neither is associated with the presidential candidates this time. we are pleased to have them both with us. thank you all boancht good to be here. >> rose: before we get into the presidential race, describe in a few words the context, the mood of the election. whit? >> angry, frustrated with two-thirds of the country thinking the country is off on the wrong track. they want a change. they want a change in washington. they want a change in the government. they want a change in the direction of the country. >> hunt: peter? ditto, ditto, ditto. thank you. absolutely the same thing. we tend to just think this just happened and the fact of the matter is, it's been there for 15 years, and all of the incivility in this campaign, all the sense of hollowing out of the. the -- of the middle class, all those things have been going on and all we're doing is seeing

corker's mind? what do you think he needs to do in the next two or three weeks. >> well, one thing he needs to court tedegates. he's been laying low. nobody knows whether he's going to endorse trump or not, but i think if cruz were to be able to embrace, after all the damage, the demolition derby, you know, that went on between trump and cruz and, in fact, trump questioning whether his father was part of the kennedy assassination. if cruz is willing to hug trump on stage and be there and back him i think that will be a powerful endorsement. >> do you think it would be a worthwhile endorsement? >> you have a lot of never trump people that were diehard cruz supporters, absolutely, but the fact is tid needs to come to trump more than trump needs to go to cruz. >> trump is driving people away. newt gingrich can go out and make the intellectual case for his policies and try to smooth over the differences, he's repelling him. today donald trump -- newt gingrich is saying donald trump is amateur hour. he is pushing people like newt gingrich away who have been defending him at every chance. >> but he's also bro