you never forget it. >> you're on "cheers" with ted danson and rea pe e perlman. they're huge lefties. you never got into a bar thing? you and norm -- >> no, there was never political discussion on the set. we're sitting at a bar being paid to crack jokes. >> woody? one for you, normal -- [ laughter ] >> all right. >> come on, come on. >> i thought cliff of going buy me a beer. >> the closest we came -- i forget who i had the conversation with, might have been a guest star. why are you raising your kids within a religious framework. i said, "because you have to give children something to either accept and embrace or reject." you can't raise a child with nothing because if you believe in nothing, then later on you'll believe in anything. >> what did the person say? >> they said they'll raise their kids and let them decide whether they're old enough. >> the kid can decide? >> yeah. also, i think that because the civilization is based on the christian judeo ethic, and this is what gave us laws. and this is -- it's all about service. >> you got to move out of hollywoo