but, one year, bill clinton -- >> and ted denson -- >> came in with the motorcade and i said, i hope they have tickets because i do not have their names and i cannot see them. it turns out they did. they had been at the white house in overcoming with him. things like that can happen but they usually even out. >> you have been working this dinner since 1993, 3 different president spirit are there different styles for each one? >> for the dinner or for the presidents in general? >> and your role -- >> as far as my board and the journal, the journalists, president bush tended to end his days it did earlier. and certainly earlier than president obama. this is a real -- for me, at my age -- younger crew of people to deal with at the white house. they are great. they are very energetic. but, when it comes to this dinner, they keep you on your toes. [laughter] >> we are you doing a dinner? are you seated? >> never, no. i him in the cabinet room when the reception is with our board. and then, i go up with the head table and all during the dinner, i am on the stage behind a pillar next to the