we just had ted deutsch here.ss to eliminate or overturn citizens united. your base statement and i think it's dead on is do not think politicians are serious on the issue of money in politics whether it's a republican, a democrat, the president, or the most junior congress person unless they have already actually done something, anything to try to fix it. what could they do? what should be on that list? i mean we talked about the amendment but we know it is a significant undertaking for this country. what could any politician, the president or anybody else do right now to win your confidence that they're serious by doing something to fix it. >> one thing they could do is release their -- an easy initial step, release the people bundling together checks and giving to our campaigns. on top of that all the candidates should be immediately committing to support legislation to require immediate disclosure of all the contributions and all the expenditures going into these outside groups. that is something we don't have

so no question in my mind that what we need to do is pass a constitutional amendment, ted deutsche, ofed that amendment which essentially overturns citizens united and says the very radical statement that corporations are not people and congress and state legislatures have the right to address campaign finance reform. >> senator, i want to -- i want to sort of play this out with you because let's say that given current -- we are at place we need a constitutional amendment. dylan ratigan has been talking about. in order to get a constitutional amendment you have to create a public consensus around the issue. it seems to me if you make the argument about campaign financing in terms you made it which is that listen, if you want social democracy you need campaign finance reform. that's not an argument that's able to marshal the level of consensus necessary to get a constitutional amendment passed which isn't just about the highest bar -- is just about the highest bar we have. right? >> no. i strongly disaee with ygree wi. i think when you are a progressive, whether you are a democrat, but