i am less concerned about the methodology -- especially with ted eagon's comments and more concerned whether we're holding enernex to some additional hurdles, so that the puc understands just what's included in terms of jobs creation. i want to be sure that when you said we want to get the message right that we're not skewing that, the message that the puc wants to use to perhaps stall or halt this project. >> so i am just -- at the staff level we're just looking for understanding how the total number that's listed there under a heading construction jobs breaks down. we're just looking for more transparency on the math. i think the methodology provides this information but the way it's shared in the report doesn't disclose that information, and so i'm just asking for more disclosure on that so i can say okay in san francisco our experience at sunset per million dollars spent was about half of a person. that's an actual construction job and not indirect or induce the i don't have a way to do that because it doesn't list that job component of the total. that's all i am asking for and i

from puc, the department of environment, from advocates and got extremely high level comments from ted eagon about it as well and all -- his comments were this seems to be fine. they used different modeling than what the city uses but because the city's model is a proprietary model and you have to pay and it's expensive to pay for they had a similar model they had a contract on and license they could use so they used their model rather than the city model of calculating job creations for money that is spent on projects and construction, so ted didn't have issues with the other model. if you unran it through the city model you would be off by a few jobs because they're slightly different but in the same ballpark for estimates. >> what is the overall job growth mentioned? >> the final job number if i remember correctly state wide was about 9,000 and half of those fell into the local hire ordinance jurisdiction area, and so you had about 4500 -- 4700 -- i don't remember the numbers off the top of my head but half were the local jobs created. >> there is a difference between permanent and non pe