host: joining us is ted hesson from politico. can you talk about the homeland what is secretary and homeland security's role in border security? guest: as homeland security secretary, she is the chief cabinet member responsible for immigration enforcement. with this particular administration you have president trump, illegal immigration is a major focus and he wants to make progress. there is an enormous amount of pressure for her to deliver. that has come to a head in the last week or so. in particular, reports that during a cabinet meeting on wednesday, president trump went on a rant about it illegal immigration. sheng that cabinet meeting took it personally. she even considered quitting. to the point where according to fox news, john kelly actually and imploredielsen her not to quit. it came to a point where there were tensions between her and trump, and it almost seemed like she would have to leave her job. the president is rightly frustrated that the loophole has prevented this administration from securing the border and pro

"ost: ted hesson from "politico joins us. teresa from columbus, ohio. caller: hi, thank you so much for c-span. is, as a border security policy, isn't this a property rights policy, too? if i was in my backyard having a barbecue and 20 strangers started rolling through, i would be appalled. i don't think that people have a put that on people's land because they have a goal that is in their interest and i forgo my right to have my private property. thet this just as much of whole makeup? i certainly wouldn't want to live next to the border with this going on. i wouldn't want to live in columbus, ohio with this going on. can you talk about private property rights and where people fit in? a good question. there are plenty of people you would talk to you at the border that are concerned with people crossing and paying on their property. part of the mission of what homeland security is asking for pushing people towards ports of entry is to discourage it regular crossings at the border. the private property debate goes both ways. they are talking about buildi

host: joining us is ted hesson from politico. you talk about the homeland what is secretary and homeland security's role in border security? guest: as homeland security secretary, she is the chief cabinet member responsible for immigration enforcement. with this particular administration you have president trump, illegal immigration is a major focus and he wants to make progress. there is an enormous amount of pressure for her to deliver. that has come to a head in the last week or so. in particular, reports that during a cabinet meeting on wednesday, president trump went on a rant about it illegal immigration. sheng that cabinet meeting took it personally. she even considered quitting. to the point where according to fox news, john kelly actually and imploredielsen her not to quit. it came to a point where there were tensions between her and trump, and it almost seemed like she would have to leave her job. the president is rightly frustrated that the loophole has prevented this administration from securing the border and protect