ted kaczynski, it seems, had his own agenda and his own timetable. >> when the oklahoma city bombing g, theodore kaczynski was already on a bus on his way to deliver the package for sending to his next victim. >> on april 24th, just five days after oklahoma city, a mail bomb killed gilbert murray. president of the california forestry association. a timber industry lobbying group. in an earlier incarnation they had been targeted by radical environmentalists. >> the bomb that was sent to the forestry association was actually sent to his predecessor, a man named william denison. but he had retired and mr. murray had replaced him. the unabomber was proud of himself. it didn't matter that his bomb had killed the wrong man. they were engaged in the same kind of work, which was anti-environment in his opinion. and so it was okay. >> i'd been to a number of bomb scenes over my career, and the last one in sacramento was probably one of the more horrific. the shrapnel is usually what maims or kills the victim. most of the cases, nails, staples, and screws were used. that's an antipersonnel devi

ted kaczynski has you convinced. >> and trying to remember the phrase. you can't eat your cake and have it too. you can have your cake and eat it, too. the interesting thing is -- and we hired a linguist to go through and look at everything. but the phrase you can't have your cake and eat it too is literally correct. you can't have your cake and eat it too. it also goes back to the bible the book of proverbs and has been used in literature and a number of different places. he did.out he had use that phrase. they made a a big.to the fact that the manifesto spelled installment with one now instead of two. certain words were used. the linguist said that did not mean anything. the other way, for instance as as i recall, ted split is infinitives in the manifesto didn't. a lot of facts connected about his movements. a hundred pages of which. probable cause. we tried to take those across the board. >> given that court's ruling on the motion to suppress, what was your trial strategy? >> it was clear that if we did not when the motion to suppress and the evidence

time of the unibomber trial he was the federal defender for this district and lead counsel on ted kaczynski's defense team. i would be remiss if i did not introduce one other individual whose presence on the panel a judge who presided over the kaczynski proceedings judge burrough junior. now to get off the discussion terry why do you tell us how you got involved in the unibomber investigation and how they came about. >> like most fbi agents he was a reluctant involvement. for myself on april 11994 at 12:35 p.m. and i can probably give you the seconds in a palo alto resident agency where i was happy working national security cases i received a call from our system special agent at the time of counterintelligence. he said terry i just got off the phone with jim freeman are special agent in charge of the time and here is what i would ask how would you like to come to san francisco and take over the task force which had been established a year earlier after 1993 simultaneous bombings both of those mailed here from sacramento to different parts of the coast. i smiled to myself when i said that's a

>> what happened when judy clarke went over her opening statement with ted kaczynski. >> you have to understand, first of all, that ted is a diagnosed paranoid schizophrenic. he has written forever about the evils of mental health professionals and what they do in the way of mind control. he is a genius and his -- he kind of -- his core is his mind and his brain and his thinking. and the idea that someone would say that he had mental health problems was nothing the -- anathema to him. it would be like stabbing him, right? he was not -- he didn't want that at all. i mean that is not something in public to have that and he also felt it would denigrate from the ideas in the manifesto which i would recommend you read. it is about 30 pages and really quite good. it is not violent. his views about what technology will do to your society, some a lot better now than they did back in 1997 or 1996 and also about mind control and those kinds of problems. when he had agreed to this arrangement, first of all, the big thing that it came up early on was who makes the decision as to what a defense ha

time of the unabomber trial, he was the federal defender for this district and lead counsel on ted kaczynski's team. i would be remiss if i did not introduce one other individual who is present, but not on the panel, the judge who presided over the kaczynski proceedings judge garland burrell jr. now, to get off the discussion why don't you tell us how you got involved in the unabomber investigation and how that came about. >> it was a reluctant involvement. on myself, on april 1, 1994, at 12:35 p.m., and i can give you the seconds in the palo alto president agency where i was happy working national security cases can i received a call from our assistant special agent at the time. he said that he just got off the phone with jim freeman, our special agent in charge at the time, and here is what i have to ask you. how would you like to come up to san francisco and take over the unabom task force, which had been established after the 1993 simultaneous bombings, both of those mailed from here in sacramento to different parts of the coast. i smiled to myself and said, that's a nice offer, ed, i'm go

( laughter ) ted cruz went to harvard, just like unabomber ted kaczynski. d. so throw it into cruz control, this is "the nightly show." captioning sponsored by comedy central ( applause ) ♪ ♪ ♪

the answer according to ( laughter ) ted cruz went to harvard, just like unabomber ted kaczynski. stop admitting dudes named ted. so throw it into cruz control, this is "the nightly show." captioning sponsored by comedy central ( applause ) ♪ ♪ ♪ ( cheers and applause ) >> larry: yeah. thank you very much. what a great crowd. welcome to "the nightly show." i'm larry wilmore. oh, man big story tonight. i can barely contain myself. this is true, you guys. i got my first gift as a late night host. >> the 2016 presidential season is now under way. freshman senator ted cruz, texas tea party star and political thorn in the side of his own republican colleagues, is first in. >> larry: thank you, thank you, thank you thank you. you guys don't understand how wonderful this is. this is a gift from the comedy god. i mean, cruz is a guy that even fellow republican john mccain called a wacko bird. ( laughter ) thanks for your service, senator mccain. ( laughter ) but any time a crazy guy enters an election you have a late night show job security for a little while longer.

( laughter ) ted cruz went to harvard, just like unabomber ted kaczynski. hey, harvard stop admitting dudes named ted. so throw it into cruz control, this is "the nightly show." captioning sponsored by comedy central ( applause ) ♪ ♪ ♪ ( cheers and applause ) >> larry: yeah. thank you very much. what a great crowd. welcome to "the nightly show." i'm larry wilmore. oh, man big story tonight. i can barely contain myself. this is true, you guys. i got my first gift as a late night host. >> the 2016 presidential season is now under way. freshman senator ted cruz, texas tea party star and political thorn in the side of his own republican colleagues, is first in. >> larry: thank you, thank you, thank you thank you. you guys don't understand how wonderful this is. this is a gift from the comedy god. i mean, cruz is a guy that even fellow republican john mccain called a wacko bird. ( laughter ) thanks for your service, senator mccain. ( laughter ) but any time a crazy guy enters an election you have a late night show job security for a little while longer. ( laughte

among them unabomber ted kaczynski and jared loughner, who shot 19 people, including former arizona congresswoman, gabriel giffords. the biggest question is whether tsarnaev himself will take the stand to plead for his life but a recent poll found just 27% of bostonians feel tsarnaev should be put to death. however, those people polled were not in the courtroom for the weeks of emotional testimony. scott, the trial resumes on monday with closing arguments for both sides. >> pelley: elaine quijano for us in boston. thank you, elaine. an intense manhunt ended today when an escaped inmate was recaptured in washington d.c. woosen assaye is accused of rock a dozen banks in virginia. he was being treated in a hospital after a suicide attempt when early today he overpowered a guard and took off with her gun. he was caught nine hours later as he stepped off a bus in the capitol. in switzerland, the deadline came and went today at the negotiations to stop iran from building a nuclear bomb. but all sides agreed to keep on talking, at least temporarily. margaret brennan is covering the negotiations. margare

martha: she has gotten a lot of famous people including ted kaczynski and jared loughner off the deathhe may be the person to do it. thank you very much, gentlemen. >> my pleasure. bill: 12 minutes before the hour. jon scott is coming up on happing how when we finish here. how are you doing. >> you wouldn't believe it looking at blue sky what yesterday was like trying to recover from a huge blast of winter weather for much of the nation including the new york city area. flights resuming. people trying to get back to normal after huge series of storms made a mess from texas to maine. flooding concerns are growing in some parts. new questions about a crash landing of a delta plane during heavy snow at laguardia. we'll talk to a guy who survived that incident. new jobs numbers, harrison ford's close call the offensive against isis. bill: you had a busy day. >> it was interesting one. bill: see you at the top of the hour. >> sounds good bill. bill: buckle up and hold on. one of the fastest and tallest roller coasters in the world is about open. ♪ your daughter has a brilliant idea for her