cochair of the transition team has -- is ted kaufman who has a history with biden. it was passed in 2015. host: and served in joe biden's seat for a stretch in the u.s. senate. karen: it was an interim appointment. exactly. team has transition team's ready. what they are doing is looking at possible nominees for various positions. presumably, they are looking at getting a white house staff put in order. soon that they will name a chief of staff or vice president biden and they continue to do other things. what they cannot do is get -- what they are unable to do is get access to the various agencies that have in many cases big briefing books ready for the new administration. those briefing books were due in the fall. they are sitting at the agencies ready to brief the new administration and ready to welcome the agency review team, but the teams cannot gain access that vice ascertained president bryden is the president-elect. statutory is the obligation of government agencies to prepare for transition? the statuteshat say for government agencies is that -- ,hat is sup

ted kaufman was a senator from delaware, and during his tenure, he worked on transitions. and in fact, the 2015 transition act is named after him, that ted kaufman and mike levitt, presidential transitions improvements act. so that act said that these councils must be created. and there are other parts of the government that also have to provide information that will affect that. and what has to happen now within his -- biden's organization is setting up first a transition-making system, how are you going to work with these kinds of information that the president wants? and that means you set up your white house staff and that comes first before you select your cabinet skraecretaries. and then you're setting your policies. and that he did during the campaign. that makes your transition a lot easier if you can do that. bush was able, even though he had only 37 days, he was able to set up his priorities, because they were the things that he talked about during the campaign. and so here, what he talked about was the pandemic, the economy, and then racial justice. >> so the in

they have a phenomenal leadership there in ted kaufman who knows this arena extremely well and is close to president-elect biden and has no ambition himself, i trifecta perfect person. the gsa has been cooperating up until now, but we are in a new phase, a phase that requires engagement with the incumbent government, mainly the career workforce. that is not happening and that's a bad thing. host: you talked about our safety. as the week was ending, and into the weekend, a number of republican senators and people like former chief of staff john kelly are calling on in biden team to be briefed these security briefings, for example the presidential daily briefings and things like that. why are those so essential to the new team coming in? max: it goes back to what the job will be on january 20. it involves handling a myriad of problems we know about like responding to the pandemic and rebuilding the economy, but also problems that are undoubtedly around the corner and not yet on our doorstep. the best example was the transition to president bush in 2000 where he experienced a shortened tra

they have a phenomenal leadership there in ted kaufman the nose this arena extremely well who is close to president-elect biden and this no ambition himself. he's a trifecta perfect person. the gsa has been cooperating up until now but we are in a new phase, a phase that requires engagement with the incumbent government mainly for career workforce that's and happen yet and that thehe batting. >> host:en talked about our safety. as the week was independent of the weekend really a number of republican senators and people like former chief of staff john kelly are now calling on the biden team to be briefed in these transitions, the security briefings, for example, the presidential daily briefings and things like that. why are those so essential to the neweam coming in? >> guest: again it comes back to what the job will be on january 20 and its hane ada problems in response the paemic of rebuilding the economy and problemshat undoubtedly around the corner at are not yet on our doorstep but are onheir way. the best historical example of this was the transitn to president bush in 2000 where

ted kaufman was a part of that effort as well. transitions are better planned now than in the past. we will transition. we will transition effectively. biden started four or five months ago planning this. that is different. >> right. >> it would clearly be better if there were cooperation between the two sides. >> i know you were for and romney as well. we know he announced his covid task force and has met with them and laid out priorities. in addition to that his website is full on with the administration's priorities, covid, climate change. transition has four jobs. one, to put a team on the field and to implement the policies that the candidate running for president made to the american people. writing drafts of laws and executive orders. all of that has been going on for some time behind the scenes. the third thing, working with congress to be able to begin to create beach heads of support. and the care and the keeping of the president-elect between now and the inauguration. you take something like national security. it would be helpful. it is a valuable thing but not an essenti

cochair of the transition team has -- is ted kaufman who has a history with biden. it was passed in 2015. host: and served in joe biden's seat for a stretch in the u.s. senate. karen: it was an interim appointment. exactly. the biden team has transition team's ready. what they are doing is looking at possible nominees for various positions. presumably, they are looking at getting a white house staff put in order. name a expect they would chief of staff and continue to do those other things. what they can't do, getting more money and office space would be useful but they are unable to do is to get access to various agencies. they have big briefing books ready for the new administration. they are sitting in the agencies ready to brief new administration but those teams cannot gain access until miss murphy ascertains that president biden is president-elect. host: what is-- the statutory agency? what is supposed to happen, the current government agencies have to at the beginning of a presidential election year are asked to start the planning for the transition. the tran

coronavirus pandemic so this is the person movie going to see his transition team is headed by ted kaufman now he's the man who actually took over from joe biden as a senator to delaware when joe biden became the vice president so he's very close to biden obviously that is important in terms of affecting the transition but there's one other point that i've got to mention in all these details that we are dealing with is that another form of history is going to be made when joe biden goes into the white house he's got a german shepherd dog called major which comes from a rescue shelter here in wilmington and it will be the. the 1st rescue dog to inhabit the white house of hugo. with the latest from wilmington in delaware thank you. all people gathering there in delaware to wait waiting to hear joe biden's speech like they're gathering in cities across the united states are the show castro is that black lives matter plaza out in front of the white house where there are scenes of celebration a stark contrast to the mass protests seen in that same plaza over recent months. within minutes of the

>> we are hearing that -- his transition is being headed by ted kaufman, and nobody is more prepared a transition. he understands the process intimately. i think one of the real changes we are facing here as we move from a trump to a biden administration is joe biden's years of service in washington has given him access to and personal relationships with experts in so many areas. so we have heard already a number of different names. but i think the idea here is number one, expertise. he wants experts focusing on covid, on the economy. he wants to listen to scientists. and the other thing, we are reachinghat he may be across the isle for some of the cabinet departments as well. tom: we have to get to january 20. i saw one medical expert today not to just but try to frame out 100 thousand more deaths before we get to the inauguration. he said that very carefully. what would you suggest we will see from dr. birx, dr. fauci, and others of the president -- of the present administration? nne: joe biden has said that he hopes that dr. fauci will stay with him as he becomes president january

ted kaufman is running his transition.slidell in the white house. i think what you'll see now with the transition is they have to get landing teams in every department as well. but i agree with rahm, the thing we recommended to trump in 2016 was decide who your chief of staff is going to be, get your senior white house people in place, and then have them be part of the decision-making process on how you put a cabinet together while they're also getting your agenda ready to go. >> thanks very much. we'll be right back. back off! you're not welcome here! get out of my face! hpv can cause certain cancers when your child grows up. get in its way. hpv can affect males and females... and there's no way to predict who will or won't clear the virus. but you can help protect your child by taking a first step. the cdc recommends hpv vaccination at age 11 or 12 to help protect against certain cancers. hey cancer! not... my... child. don't wait... talk to your child's doctor about hpv vaccination today. black friday deals that are too

ted kaufman and others working, starting in the summer to start building out the team. i spoke with both of them about what they've been doing behind the scenes to get ready. here's a few things they told me. they already have 4300 individuals identified to start filling some of the positions to be filled. they've also preemptively cleared through security measures some of the individual who is will go into the federal agencies to take stock of what needs to be done starting january 20th. don't expect to see cabinet nominations soon. their priority is filling out the west wing jobs, also getting names put forward for some of the nonsenate confirmable positions and they're putting a premium on all the positions that will help tackle the pandemic. that's why you're seeing biden today announcing his 12 member pandemic task force. it's chaired by the former surgeon general, david kessler as well as marsella munez smith. and rick bright, the ousd whistleblower sounding the alarm about in his view the trump administration not taking the pandemic seriously enough. also an arch

guy running the transition team for joe biden, senator ted kaufman who took joe biden's seat in the senate. joe biden formed the team in april, added members over the summer but they're ready as soon as they feel comfortable rolling out the formal process of staffing a biden administration, to communicate that to the country. website was just a sneak preview. >> ask you about the issue of sentiment of the biden campaign here. i assume they're looking at same data the rest of us are. looking at numbers that ali was describing, lead in arizona slightly shrinking. still have pennsylvania. as this narrows down to perhaps just one state of pennsylvania, to they have the same confidence in the outcome they had 24 hours ago when joe biden addressed the nation? >> reporter: i find it interesting, this morning when the campaign laid out state of play, there was a bit of caution about pennsylvania. they felt i think they were flying more blind. but over the course of the day talking to the campaign, and they've been talking to allies in the state delegations and state democrats, they've been increas

. >> she reached out to a local democratic party activist ted kaufman. >> i went down and talked to himu're running on civil rights? you're running on environment? you're running on tax reform? those are really good issues. silence. i said, but i don't think you have a chance. >> you said what? >> i don't think you have a chance on winning. >> reporter: and his reaction to that was? >> just give it hell. we'll see. we'll see. >> biden was confident he could talk his way into voters' hearts but what kaufman saw was bleak. >> on labor day we did a big time poll. you know what the number was? 47% boggs, 19% for biden. >> reporter: but it was the first year 18-year-olds could vote and young voters saw a candidate who was promising that he understands what's happening today. 50 years later this time as a political elder trying to connect with young voters, it's still his mantra. >> let's go, joe. >> they have this funny feeling cale boggs, his heart wasn't into it. >> then we snuck up on him. boggs, this was the nixon landslide. everybody expected no democrat to win and that was the truth. >

ted kaufman, who's running the transition, literally wrote the law, the latest law on transitions fromation to the next when he was an acting senator or the interim senator from the state of delaware who actually replaced joe biden. you have ron klain, who was the chief of staff in the vice president's office. you have a lot of people with a very serious, intricate nomg knowledge of how the government works. what impact will that have? >> it's clearly an advantage. i think you have the combination of a very skilled and seasoned group of people who are ready to take key positions in the biden administration, and the fact they've only been out of office for four years. often, even these transitions take place after a longer period of being out of office. so, for example, in the case of when president bush came in in 2000, his team had been out, even though very experienced, had been out of office for eight years. similarly when president obama took office in 2008, the democrats had been out of office. so this combination, i think, will help mitigate some of the cost associated with the d

for that is the law that describes and projects how this transition should work was written by ted kaufman, who is one of the key advisors for now president-elect biden. they know how the transition is supposed to work and have been ready for it. to add to reporting in the past, the biden campaign says they will have transition offices in wilmington, but also in washington, d.c. and that the president-elect will work in both places. one more thing, the president-elect is talking about the agenda and focused on the coronavirus and sources say he does plan a national mask mandate. he can only directly affects federal areas like national parks but they say he will be reaching out to governors asking them to also mandate masks around the country. judy: interesting. yamiche, tell us about the thinking inside the white house and the trump campaign as they continue to insist the election is not over. yamiche: the president is refusing to face the thing he has feared the most in his life and during this campaign. that is tt he has lost, he is the loser of this campaign. he instead is not wanting t

ted kaufman, one of his quloechkt-ser longest-serving advisers who was part of that campaign 48 yearsgo tonight that won a surprise senate victory, said he's always been a man who had this test in the mirror. he always knew what he was doing and wanted to be able to live with himself, with his decisions and could live with them if they didn't go well in terms of his political decisions. the message that he began his campaign with was exactly what he took to the stage tonight, the idea of running to restore the soul of america, to restore the backbone of the economy, the middle class, and to unite the country. and i think that represents the biggest test for joe biden that he knows going forward and one he tried to address tonight, speaking directly to trump supporters. said, i know you're disappointed but give me a chance. he's also make clear he's going to move forward with his attempt to try to pass an aggressive agenda but one that we know as reporting from the "washington post" lays out is going to require also a lot of executive orders. we can't overlook, though, as well the mome

ted kaufman will lead it. he served on his staff for 22 years.president showing no signs of being ready to concede. tweeting this yesterday, quote: joe biden should not wrongfully claim the office of the president. i could make that claim also. legal proceedings are just now beginning. in a campaign statement from president trump saying we believe the american people deserve to have full transparency and do all vote counting and election certification and that this is no longer about any single election. this is about the integrity of our entire election process. as we know, legal proceedings on behalf of the trump campaign are playing out in pennsylvania for valid access and nevada over allegations of illegal voting. though no new evidence has been forthcoming. meanwhile here we see an increase secret service presence. set up. perhaps if we get developments today we will see biden come here. meanwhile, while we wait and watch those numbers we will bring them to you as soon as we get new ones. peeft, will, jed. will: thanks, griff there are two s

it's the model that ted kaufman used to write the legislation that puts us in this situation. the biden team clearly concerned about the continued delay of this certification essentially of his election, and what it means for his ability to hit the ground running on january 20th and expect to see democrats continue to raise additional alarm about this as well. >> it's interesting to flash back to four years ago. i think i was with you at the moment covering the transition. monica, as you have concerns about the biden team the president is slow walking the transition turnover, you have concerns going from inside the president's orbit, inside trump world. i'm about to say a sentence i don't know that i've said at all, maybe rarely over the last four and a half years. for the fifth day in a row we do not expect to see the president publicly today. it's really interesting. >> it's remarkable. and if the last couple days theme was defiance in defeat, it seems now we're shifting more to a reckoning with reality based on what people close to the president are telling our team about h

and joe biden, one of his most trusted aides, senator ted kaufman, who was his chief of staff in the senate, who actually wrote the law governing transitions, has been working behind the scenes to get ready for it. we saw tonight an effort to kick that off. the speech we saw from the former vice president tonight it was both the capstone of the campaign. he talked about the margin of victory, the record number of votes he received. but he also began an effort to govern, to take the very difficult work of something he promised throughout the campaign, trying to unite the country and set the tone for that. i want to play a part of his remarks in which he was clearly reaching out to the opposition. take a listen. >> i'll work as hard for those who didn't vote for me as those who did. let this grim era of demonization in america begin to end here and now. the refusal of democrats and republicans to cooperate with one another is not some mysterious force beyond our control. it's a decision, a choice we make. and if we can decide not to cooperate then we can decide to cooperate. >> we also

the team that biden has tasked to help oversee this transition, senator ted kaufman is the leader of that group. he wrote the law of guiding presidential transitions. so this is a team that's ready to hit the ground running with the former vice president. now the president-elect. >> let's talk about this covid task force, though. who specifically is on it? there are millions of people out there in the country that don't care about politics but they voted because they care about covid. what is he doing? >> we expect to see him meet with these people. vivekmurthy, david kessler and marcella nunez-smith, a professor at yale university. some other very interesting names, rick bright. the ousted whistleblower at hhs who warned that the trump administration was not taking the pandemic seriously enough. an interesting addition to this team. and joe biden is also reacting this morning to the news about progress toward a vaccine. he -- in a statement this morning, he's congratulating the women and men who helped get to this point and gave so much hope to the country. as biden put it. but he a

biden transition team has really been working quietly behind the scenes for months, and senator ted kaufmanf staff, who actually wrote the legislation that now guides presidential transitions, has been taking the lead in that effort. and so, we're beginning to see today the first steps toward the work that they're doing. of course, the signal, the important signal that they're trying to send at this point, is that the issue that joe biden focused on so much in those closing months of the campaign, the pandemic, is going to be his top priority. so you saw the announcement this morning -- 12 members of his pandemic task force. we should expect to see the former vice president -- the president-elect -- start to spend the week reaching out to governors, local officials, learning their needs, because he wants to have legislation ready to sign on his desk in january to start to get resources to the states. and then it gets to the question of what he will do as president to set a different example. is there a mask mandate, among other issues that the new president will have to tackle? now, they're

>> oh, i think it definitely will -- ted kaufman is the guy, clay, he's so close to joe. he interim senator to fill biden's seat. he's the closest person to joe whose last nature is not biden. and with rich experience. they're operating as clay knows under the presidential transition act of 1953. that was beefed up in a bill written by interim senator ted kaufman. so with the landing teams, you call them landing parties go each agency to review what's going on there and changes that you might want to make. there are background checks that must be done. there are legal requirements. of course, this president thumbs his nose at all norms and legal requirements. the first call is made by the head of of the gsa, general services association, by law, for the incoming president. she makes that call. erin murphy is her name. she is in the bush administration. she's a republican. it's confirmed unanimously, the democrats have no complaints with her. she's not released the funding yet and i don't blame per. but very soon she should. the supreme court not going to be in the middle.

they have a phenomenal leadership there in ted kaufman who knows this arena extremely well and is closeesident-elect biden and has no ambition himself, i trifecta perfect person. the gsa has been cooperating up until now, but we are in a new phase, a phase that requires engagement with the incumbent government, mainly the career workforce. that is not happening and that's a bad thing. host: you talked about our safety. as the week was ending, and into the weekend, a number of republican senators and people like former chief of staff john kelly are calling on in biden team to be briefed these security briefings, for example the presidential daily briefings and things like that. why are those so essential to the new team coming in? max: it goes back to what the job will be on january 20. it involves handling a myriad of problems we know about like responding to the pandemic and rebuilding the economy, but also problems that are undoubtedly around the corner and not yet on our doorstep. the best example was the transition to president bush in 2000 where he experienced a shortened transitio

ted kaufman who served with former vice president biden for two years, do we have any cabinet names? no potential names yet but they are here in the buildings behind me and the secret service has it locked down. maybe those states that put biden over the top today, we assume we will see him as well is senator harris on stage behind us but for now it is wait and watch. neil: any of those states with six electoral votes would be enough to put joe biden at 270 electoral votes, the minimum he needs to become president-elect of the united states. the count in pennsylvania getting the most scrutiny, the biggest electoral tie at 20 votes. they have a separate pile for those ballots coming in after election day, the pennsylvania supreme court allowed that, that wasn't very fair the way they were doing that, the supreme court did not interfere in that. let's get the latest from the city of brotherly love in philadelphia. >> let me start with the president's tweets, legal observers refused admittance, illegal votes were illegally received after 8:00 pm tuesday, changing the result in pennsylva

. >> she reached out to a local democratic party activist, ted kaufman. >> you're running on civil rights you're running on tax reform. and those are really good issues. silence. i said, but i don't think you have a chance at winning. >> you said what? >> i don't think you have a chance of winning. you don't have a chance. kale boggs is incredible. you've been in this for two years. you look like you're 25 years old. this is a race to run in order to make these issues you care about, i say you can do that but there is no chance you can win. >> and his reaction to that was? >> well, just come and help me. just come and help me. we'll see. we'll see. >> biden was confident he could talk his way into voters' hearts but what kaufman saw was bleak. >> on labor day, we did a big time polling. you know what the number was? 47% for boggs, 19% for biden. >> but it was also the first year 18-year-olds could vote and young voters saw a candidate who was promising that he understands what's happening today. 50 years later, this time as a political elder trying to connect with young voters, it's still

joe biden's transition team chief ted kaufman is proposing to limit the size of the biggest u.s.ould financial service industry executives expect from a biden administration? are we going to see these banks come under pressure? >> well, i think all free market capitalism is going to come under pressure if biden succeeds in this election. look, he's not a friend of capitalism. he's not a friend of free markets. he's a high tax liberal and america will pay a price. i deal with everyday investors. while we're trying to figure out this election, my advice to every day investors is stay calm, don't panic, this thing's going to get resolved and don't try to time this market. it's a big mistake. no one knows who is going to win in the end and no one know what the market's going to do so you've got to own of equities, you've got to diversify, don't panic and go to cash like a lot of people are doing. it's a big mistake. have you to stay focused on the next 20 years, not the next 20 minutes. it's hard to do when tom pers are running so -- tempers are running so hot right now. maria: i wan

cochair of the transition team has -- is ted kaufman who has a history with biden.was passed in 2015. host: and served in joe biden's seat for a stretch in the u.s. senate. karen: it was an interim appointment. exactly. team has transition team's ready. what they are doing is looking at possible nominees for various positions. presumably, they are looking at getting a white house staff put in order. soon that they will name a chief of staff or vice president biden and they continue to do other things. what they cannot do is get -- what they are unable to do is get access to the various agencies that have in many cases big briefing books ready for the new administration. those briefing books were due in the fall. they are sitting at the agencies ready to brief the new administration and ready to welcome the agency review team, but the teams cannot gain access that vice ascertained president bryden is the president-elect. statutory is the obligation of government agencies to prepare for transition? the statuteshat say for government agencies is that -- ,hat is suppose

into law after bush's administration by the very man who is now running joe biden's transition, ted kaufman, former senator from delaware. where we could have seen potentially another seamless transition with a lot of folks very experienced in governing, we're seeing the trump administration using a technicality here, a bureaucratic tech know callty, the idea of ascertaining who is the victor to try to delay that and withhold it from the president-elect. his team sending all indications they're trying to proceed nonetheless and announced hundreds of names of individuals who when they get the go ahead will begin to go into federal government agencies, take stock of what needs to be done, trying to reassure the country they're confident they will get to the point. clearly behind the scenes there is concern and the possibility of legal action if there is not any change in this posture in the coming days. >> to your earlier point the 9/11 commission actually pointed to that delayed transition as one of the problems that they weren't prepared. mike memoli with the biden transition in wilmington,

ted call them, his longtime chief of staff and head of his transition. we talked about the steadiness of the biden campaign throughout this entire grueling campaign. kaufman always had a look in the mirror test . this campaign gideon with him -- even though there were reasons for him not to enter the race, what would i say to myself if you don't run and donald trump is re-elected. throughout his ups and downs, he never lost doubt that he was doing the right thing. i talked to his sister, and she said he's a realist, so familiar with the weight of the responsibilities that are coming towards him. but he's also through it all always an optimism. and he really believes he has an opportunity to do great things for the american people. that's really, i think, the space that he's in at this point, having an opportunity to let this soak in and be ready for the job ahead. there's no hesitation about being ready on day one. and so i think it'll be so interesting to hear from the former vice president tonight. he's had a chance to lay out some of the themes over the last few days about the need to unify the country, but certainly an opportunity now outside of the w